Mini 1805 [C'est fini!]

F-oh-ex · Post Post #1875 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:56 am

I could see DGB as SK and Derek + Shiro as Mafia tbh but I'll need to take a really close look at DGB. For instance, why would she claim a kill on PJ and not Infinity if she's a SK pretending to be a Vig? As I stated in my read list, she could be gambitting well and I don't think she would blunder that hard... Just thinking aloud here, won't say more on DGB before ISOing her.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1876 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:45 am

In post 1870, Shiro wrote:We might mot have a vig

We do and that's me

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1877 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:46 am

In post 1874, F-oh-ex wrote:As of now, I don't see why DGB would shoot PJ as Vig.

I thought his tunnel on me was scummy

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1878 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:47 am

My first posts when I replaced in were HUGE HONKING HINTS that I was the vig.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1879 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:49 am

In post 1420, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1418, F-oh-ex wrote:On one hand SK will probably try to target Mafia. On the other one, eliminating him would get us rid of one NK.
I get that, but the scum is always more worried about SKs than town.

No one is considering a vig for the second kill?

Well maybe not "honking" LOL

But looking that up I saw that some players were SK-hunting MAYBE it was because THEIR KILL FAILED how 'bout that

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1880 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:52 am

In post 1418, F-oh-ex wrote:On one hand SK will probably try to target Mafia. On the other one, eliminating him would get us rid of one NK.

In post 1419, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 1417, DrippingGoofball wrote:SK-hunters are scum.
Creature was trying to figure out who the SK was though

In post 1401, Creature wrote:I find it very unlikely a vigilante would shoot Dwlee99 or Robbnva, therefore I believe there's an SK.

6:3:1
Mislynch
5:3:1
2 town deaths
3:3:1

And then we're kingmakers (we could still win but that'd be complicated).

In post 1374, F-oh-ex wrote:That flood gave me cancer. Also, SK is virtually confirmed because why would a Vig shoot either Dwlee or Robbvna? That "if" looks like trying to force a "townslip".
Also, you point out Derek is Town to you then you say "nvm Derek is Town". Consistency?

VOTE: Creature A shame his wagon died yesterday.

The SK-talk was between Creature & F-oeh-ex

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1881 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:52 am

VOTE: F-oh-ex

Derek12 · Post Post #1882 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:08 am

Going to be busy until tomorrow, I'll read up and post then.

F-oh-ex · Post Post #1883 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:09 am

In post 1877, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1874, F-oh-ex wrote:As of now, I don't see why DGB would shoot PJ as Vig.
I thought his tunnel on me was scummy

That's a terrible reason considering you claimed to have townread PJ all the way through day 2, even going as far as calling him confirmed Town. You continued to townread him while he scumread you, saying "lol PJ you always scumread me".

In post 1878, DrippingGoofball wrote:My first posts when I replaced in were HUGE HONKING HINTS that I was the vig.

Crumbing Vig doesn't confirm you as Vig if you had a plan to fakeclaim it all along.

In post 1879, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1420, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1418, F-oh-ex wrote:On one hand SK will probably try to target Mafia. On the other one, eliminating him would get us rid of one NK.
I get that, but the scum is always more worried about SKs than town.

No one is considering a vig for the second kill?
Well maybe not "honking" LOL

But looking that up I saw that some players were SK-hunting MAYBE it was because THEIR KILL FAILED how 'bout that

Now you're reaching and grasping at straws. As I already said, Town would have little reason to shoot either Robb or Dwlee. Scum would gladly kill both for leading. You're trying to make a case that Shiro and I are scum because her slot and I discussed existence of SK. By the way, I'm pretty sure at least half of the players talked about SK, now just us two so nice tunnel.

F-oh-ex · Post Post #1884 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:11 am

Oops, I addressed Shiro as "her", I confused Shiro's and DGB's pronouns. My apologies.

DGB launched a full offense here, grasping at straws while doing so and trying to handwave her inconsistency concerning PJ's death. There is no way that is Town.

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

Eggman · Post Post #1885 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:14 am

VOTE: DGB
OK, maybe we do have an SK after all.
ninja'd by F-oh-ex wow

Sméagol · Post Post #1886 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:21 am

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Shiro / Dragon of the West / Derek12 / Titus

There are 7 active players.
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Start of day 3
Next vote count

Spoiler: Current player list

Spoiler: Days & nights

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Titus · Post Post #1887 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 6:15 am

In post 1870, Shiro wrote:Legit

We might mot have a vig

Have an sk and you are scum pretending to be a vig

If DGB was SK pretending to be a vig, we still have vig kills being blocked.
If DGB was SK, why not just claim the mafia kill as her own? Survival tactic?

This whole thing makes no sense.

I really don't feel good about DGB or Eggman here.

Titus · Post Post #1888 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 6:15 am

DGB's play doesn't really make sense as any alignment... which tells me that I'm missing something...

F-oh-ex · Post Post #1889 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 6:52 am

If DGB is SK, we don't have a Vig which means DGB killed Infinity and not petroleum. As per not claiming kill on Mafia, that might be a gambit to make claim more believable? Also to add more confusion regarding setup. I can't possibly see DGB's actions today as Town.
Eggman is Town, just confused though.

Titus · Post Post #1890 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 7:12 am

In post 1889, F-oh-ex wrote:If DGB is SK, we don't have a Vig which means DGB killed Infinity and not petroleum. As per not claiming kill on Mafia, that might be a gambit to make claim more believable? Also to add more confusion regarding setup. I can't possibly see DGB's actions today as Town.
Eggman is Town, just confused though.

Not necessarily.

DGB could be SK and we have a vig. It's just a low ev play.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1891 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 7:18 am

In post 1887, Titus wrote:If DGB was SK pretending to be a vig, we still have vig kills being blocked.

It's more likely that the SK was targeted and survived.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1892 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 7:20 am

In post 1889, F-oh-ex wrote:If DGB is SK, we don't have a Vig which means DGB killed Infinity and not petroleum. As per not claiming kill on Mafia, that might be a gambit to make claim more believable?

That makes no sense

There is zero logic in any of this

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1893 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 7:22 am

In post 1890, Titus wrote:DGB could be SK and we have a vig. It's just a low ev play.

It's funny that from your perspective, you're not adding "mafia" as a possibility

Titus · Post Post #1894 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 7:49 am

In post 1893, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1890, Titus wrote:DGB could be SK and we have a vig. It's just a low ev play.
It's funny that from your perspective, you're not adding "mafia" as a possibility

You wouldn't claim vig as mafia. It's a zero EV play. You'd just be shot by the actual vig/sk.

F-oh-ex · Post Post #1895 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:45 am

In post 1892, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1889, F-oh-ex wrote:If DGB is SK, we don't have a Vig which means DGB killed Infinity and not petroleum. As per not claiming kill on Mafia, that might be a gambit to make claim more believable?
That makes no sense

There is zero logic in any of this

It's an attempt to reversee engineer what you're doing. There's no way you're Town after what you've tried to pull today.

Eggman · Post Post #1896 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:57 am

In post 1887, Titus wrote:
In post 1870, Shiro wrote:Legit

We might mot have a vig

Have an sk and you are scum pretending to be a vig
If DGB was SK pretending to be a vig, we still have vig kills being blocked.
If DGB was SK, why not just claim the mafia kill as her own? Survival tactic?

This whole thing makes no sense.

I really don't feel good about DGB or Eggman here.

No matter if DGB is vig or SK, there were two kills in play and one will be removed from the game. If she isn't lying about 2-shot vig, then there will be only the Mafia's kill. If she is SK and we lynch her today, her kill dies with her and there will only be the Mafia's kill.
I think this is good for town either way. If she's not lying, we just lynch a VT. Which isn't horrible?

Eggman · Post Post #1897 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:58 am

In post 1889, F-oh-ex wrote:Eggman is Town, just confused though.

Yes.

Titus · Post Post #1898 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:26 am

In post 1896, Eggman wrote:
In post 1887, Titus wrote:
In post 1870, Shiro wrote:Legit

We might mot have a vig

Have an sk and you are scum pretending to be a vig
If DGB was SK pretending to be a vig, we still have vig kills being blocked.
If DGB was SK, why not just claim the mafia kill as her own? Survival tactic?

This whole thing makes no sense.

I really don't feel good about DGB or Eggman here.
No matter if DGB is vig or SK, there were two kills in play and one will be removed from the game. If she isn't lying about 2-shot vig, then there will be only the Mafia's kill. If she is SK and we lynch her today, her kill dies with her and there will only be the Mafia's kill.
I think this is good for town either way. If she's not lying, we just lynch a VT. Which isn't horrible?

DGB is a great scumhunter though. If DGB was suggested to be scum by the analysis, that's one thing. I don't see the suggestion.

Lowering the KPN just seems to help mafia at this point since the vig/sk seems to be targeting mafia...

F-oh-ex · Post Post #1899 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:32 am

@Eggman Lynching a VT at this point would probably put as at 3v2v1 during the Night. We'd be lucky if that became 2v1v1 which forces us to NL and hope for crosskill again.

@Titus Refer to my analysis a few posts earlier regarding amount of KPN. Also refer to my post about why DGB is scum.