Mini 1820 — Lazy Summer Mafia (Game Over)

[Raskolnikov]

If kraska's scum she's either ULTRA hard bussing with the ips/dgb scumreads, or I'm misreading one of those two, or the somewhat unlikely scenario we're both gods at reading people d1.
It's weird because she's townreading people who I also am okay with but are objectively scummy on the surface but her explanations are actually realistic (unlike certain others I've mentioned).
On one hand she did case me and not the other 2 but I like how she moves vote after writing all of that because I was VLA instead of voteparking and using it as an excuse. I think scum DON'T move vote after writing a big case for the vote because they pretty much write what they do IN ORDER TO JUSTIFY their vote and will be happy with being useless as long as it looks good.
All in all actually decent. If I am right on KTS and DGB, third is more likely aristo (who has good associations with both of them as well) or maybe a nullish like LQ.

[Raskolnikov]

If scum IS kts/dgb/aristo and I called it this early day 1 I wanna a scummy nom (<3).

For now best thing is to should consolidate on one of these and I think KTS is probably the worst.

Skimming LQ/rb doesn't actually look that interesting. I still think rb's probtown and LQ is overall murky, the way he posts too with quote + short comment and in general microstatements is really annoying. LQ if you could readslist and summarise your thoughts in an easier to digest format that would be great.

[Killthestory]

lol he says I'm throwing around reads but doesn't bother to have me explaining it.

[Naomi-Tan]

I personally find dgb worse than kts and aristo beacuse There posts are just confusing while the others I can understand at least..

[Raskolnikov]

lol he says I'm throwing around reads but doesn't bother to have me explaining it.

You'll explain yourself when you get voted won't you? :^)

[Killthestory]

no.

[Raskolnikov]

I personally find dgb worse than kts and aristo beacuse There posts are just confusing while the others I can understand at least..

+2

Aristophanes

— Raskolnikov, Infinity 324
+2

DrippingGoofball

— JarJarDrinks, kraska77
0

Infinity 324

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+2

Killthestory

— Aristophanes, Slandaar
0

JarJarDrinks

—
0

kraska77

—
+2

LicketyQuickety

— rb, MariaR
0

Manuel87

—
0

MariaR

—
+1

Naomi-Tan

— Manuel87
0

Raskolnikov

—
+1

rb

— LicketyQuickety
+1

Slandaar

— DrippingGoofball

+2

NOT VOTING

— Killthestory, Naomi-Tan

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2016-08-19 14:00:00)

(Fri Aug 19 @ 2:00 PM EST)

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@folks this is kind of a joke and it's time to get things moving. Consolidate. If it has to be DGB or aristo instead I'm fine but this one is my preference.

[Raskolnikov]

I mean surprising enough all of the (2)s are actually okay but splitting 4 ways doesn't do anything.

[Raskolnikov]

I also want to establish a townbloc out of a few players with naomi in it.

naomi/infinity/rb possibly; I want scum to have to decide between killing one of these or killing someone like me/slaandaar/kraska who have similar reads to me.

At this point naomi town is essentially a given especially because her low exp and how she reads as a player makes the flipside (really good manipulative scum) feel very implausible; but I also feel she's the type scum could leave alive for a later mislynch and make her look scummy through big arguments and retconning the game (or alternatively manipulate her vote). I want her to be considered unlynchable so scum either kill her or have to play with an unlynchable.

If anyone disagrees I want to hear why; either a) you think I'm misreading the game or b) scumread me, but for whichever one please go into detail. Even doing the minimum and only agreeing on one is still worth.

[Killthestory]

i should be in the townbloc.

[Slandaar]

Explain more.

Meta wise DGB hasn't posted enough townreads, she hasn't shown anything to make someone town (in her opinion), she has been buzzwording it up an unusually high amount and the below just felt insanely off for her:

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

Explain all of your scumreads.

Fencesitting, followed by OMGUS

I know I'm good

How did I catch you so fast?

Combined with the unanswered mysteries lets call them and yeah.

Maria I don't have much to say. It's my less certain read by a lot.

KTS - it's exactly what I said, he tried to charisma out of the argument he got completely wrong but it just doesn't work on me. He hasn't come back to the argument or done anything since, he knows it, he didn't reevaluate so hes scum. Hasn't provided the walls when replacing in either as an aside.

[Killthestory]

lol youre saying effort = alignment

lol

[Marquis]

ACTIVITY

JarJarDrinks

has not posted in the last 48 hours, and is being prodded.

[Killthestory]

marquis youre my favorite hip asian listmod.

[Marquis]

VOTECOUNT 1.13

0

Aristophanes

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+2

DrippingGoofball

— JarJarDrinks, kraska77
0

Infinity 324

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+3

Killthestory

— Aristophanes, Slandaar, Raskolnikov
0

JarJarDrinks

—
0

kraska77

—
+1

LicketyQuickety

— MariaR
0

Manuel87

—
0

MariaR

—
+1

Naomi-Tan

— Manuel87
0

Raskolnikov

—
+2

rb

— LicketyQuickety, Infinity 324
+2

Slandaar

— DrippingGoofball, rb

+2

NOT VOTING

— Killthestory, Naomi-Tan

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2016-08-19 14:00:00)

(Fri Aug 19 @ 2:00 PM EST)

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Awaiting prod responses from:

JarJarDrinks

[Marquis]

marquis youre my favorite hip asian listmod.

i would respond to this but it takes me a literal minute to load each page OH WOULD U LOOK AT THAT i'm already responding.

[Raskolnikov]

KTS - it's exactly what I said, he tried to charisma out of the argument he got completely wrong but it just doesn't work on me. He hasn't come back to the argument or done anything since, he knows it, he didn't reevaluate so hes scum. Hasn't provided the walls when replacing in either as an aside.

Don't forget the IPS slot too (worth looking) or the awful reads/catchup.

[Raskolnikov]

FTR the fucking around, while the most obvious or apparent thing, is actually kind of nai for him compared to the other things. Though a skim does show him getting falsely townread in some of his scum games for it as "too scummy/aggressive to be scum explanation" so watch out. If anyone townreads KTS or the previous IPS please explain.

[Naomi-Tan]

At this point naomi town is essentially a given especially because her low exp and how she reads as a player makes the flipside (really good manipulative scum) feel very implausible; but I also feel she's the type scum could leave alive for a later mislynch and make her look scummy through big arguments and retconning the game (or alternatively manipulate her vote). I want her to be considered unlynchable so scum either kill her or have to play with an unlynchable.

This is the way I feel about LQ, Slandaar and DGB to be honest... But some parts of me regisiters there scummy behaviour as too townie.. like its so honest and full of belief .. Its made me real conflicted and kinda confused the last couple days.

[DrippingGoofball]

You're sheeping Scumdaar onto KTS now? The beautiful wagon is gone?

[Raskolnikov]

^what is the point of this question?

[Naomi-Tan]

You're sheeping Scumdaar onto KTS now? The beautiful wagon is gone?

Not sure who this was directed at; Im just going with how I feel and right now I just feel a little lost I want to push the people I have issues with but I'm uncertain if there scum and I feel that If I push them and it spirals into a 1v1 of a greater intensity than I have already done then tomorrow scum will easily push for my defeat. I also feel this could be the case if RB or Infinity flips scum as I felt consistently that they are both town and that flip will make it look like I was in a team with the other (and as the final of my called trio would be harder to lynch I feel scum would put me to the block second leading town) I think I need to read over the game again today or tomorow (though likely monday as Im more busy today) As I feel that its best that I reafirm my reads again and refresh myself reading through and trying to be unbiest so I can get a more clear read. but for now.. I just feel kinda lost..

[rb]

Slandaar has to unvote KTS first and then I can get on.

[Naomi-Tan]

Slandaar has to unvote KTS first and then I can get on.

This has stopped being funny.. If you want to vote something vote something -_-

[rb]

No it's important that I'm not sheeping Slandaar.