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[xSoniaNevermindx]

Mimikyu-Can you please articulate why I am scum? With more reason than "shifting votes" which is a horrible reason considering how much time I've spent in thread relative to all of you combined?

You act like being in the thread for a long time warrants townie points...

[Mimikyu]

Mimikyu-Can you please articulate why I am scum? With more reason than "shifting votes" which is a horrible reason considering how much time I've spent in thread relative to all of you combined?

If you're expecting a clear articulation of why

anyone

is scum on Day 1, then I suggest you lower your expectations. I've explained why I think you're scum though.

[Zyf]

atr?

Appeal to ridicule.

ah you want me to explain /why/ it's bad
Sure
it's opportunistic as fuck
first of all, you have sonia, who's pretty highly townread, "on the fence" so that if things go your way (someone pushes them) you can vote them, while keeping them high enough not to get any weird looks
next, you have Xkfyu as scum, which you never go on to vote for because there's no wagon there
third, you put two lurkers in your scum pile but don't do anything with it, simply saying you think "one" of them is scum–in other words, you can vote whichever wagon gets more force later on
also you have half of your list below town as possible votables
you also conveniently forget people; i don't appreciate that, because those are freebies for later on.
Lastly, you say I could "easily be scum" followed by a sentence suggesting I'm null to you
so that you can get away with it no matter what happens

you also say you don't have a "solid read" on me but apparently voting null people when there's 4 scum in your list is normal

[Zyf]

Mimikyu-Can you please articulate why I am scum? With more reason than "shifting votes" which is a horrible reason considering how much time I've spent in thread relative to all of you combined?

You act like being in the thread for a long time warrants townie points...

no
I'm saying that if you're there to react to everything scummy immediately as it happens, you're more likely to vote on it than after once things die down, yeah?

[Zyf]

Mimikyu-Can you please articulate why I am scum? With more reason than "shifting votes" which is a horrible reason considering how much time I've spent in thread relative to all of you combined?

If you're expecting a clear articulation of why

anyone

is scum on Day 1, then I suggest you lower your expectations. I've explained why I think you're scum though.

yes you have
"too many votes"
that's about it.

[Zyf]

Mimikyu-Can you please articulate why I am scum? With more reason than "shifting votes" which is a horrible reason considering how much time I've spent in thread relative to all of you combined?

If you're expecting a clear articulation of why

anyone

is scum on Day 1, then I suggest you lower your expectations. I've explained why I think you're scum though.

yes you have
"too many votes"
that's about it.

oh wait
I forgot the fucking greatest reason to try and lynch someone in the whole wide world: because they post too much for your liking
Voted the best strategy for winning a game of mafia since sixteen-ninety-never

[xSoniaNevermindx]

Mimikyu-Can you please articulate why I am scum? With more reason than "shifting votes" which is a horrible reason considering how much time I've spent in thread relative to all of you combined?

You act like being in the thread for a long time warrants townie points...

no
I'm saying that if you're there to react to everything scummy immediately as it happens, you're more likely to vote on it than after once things die down, yeah?

Fair enough.

[Mimikyu]

atr?

Appeal to ridicule.

ah you want me to explain /why/ it's bad
Sure
it's opportunistic as fuck
first of all, you have sonia, who's pretty highly townread, "on the fence" so that if things go your way (someone pushes them) you can vote them, while keeping them high enough not to get any weird looks
next, you have Xkfyu as scum, which you never go on to vote for because there's no wagon there
third, you put two lurkers in your scum pile but don't do anything with it, simply saying you think "one" of them is scum–in other words, you can vote whichever wagon gets more force later on
also you have half of your list below town as possible votables
you also conveniently forget people; i don't appreciate that, because those are freebies for later on.
Lastly, you say I could "easily be scum" followed by a sentence suggesting I'm null to you
so that you can get away with it no matter what happens

you also say you don't have a "solid read" on me but apparently voting null people when there's 4 scum in your list is normal

1) Zero interest in voting Sonia today. Reading my post it's clear there's a distinction between her and your position on my list, despite me being ultimately undecided on both at the time.
2) No point in pushing a wagon that has no traction on day 1. Waste of a vote.
3) Not voting either today, but seems likely one is scum. Not the only person to have this stance.
4) Day 1 reads should be fairly fluid, because anyone with a firm list is either overconfident or ignorant. Additionally, I had a total of 4 as possible votes. Nullscum and below are possible for votes from me. Nulls are not. 4/13 is not half.
5) If I was "forgetting people to be freebies later on", isn't casting slight shade just strictly better? This just doesn't make sense.
6) My wording on you doesn't imply a null. It implies a null-scum, which you yourself picked up on when you so nicely organized my list.

To be honest you did a good job pointing out potential issues in my list, but that still doesn't make you town.

[Zyf]

Yo can we get a votecount? A lot of votes have been shifted around.

Pedit-Lmao perfect timing mimikyu

[Zyf]

you still have 0 good reasons for voting me
please lay them out nice and pretty for me in list format
thanks

[mhsmith0]

Votecount 1.07

Xkfyu (2)

Zyf , Lowell ,

Transcend (2)

Saru , Vedith ,

TierShift (1)

texcat ,

gerryoat (1)

TierShift ,

Mimikyu (1)

Transcend ,

Zyf (3)

Mimikyu , xSoniaNevermindx , Xkfyu ,

Not Voting (3)

algebra , BlackStar , gerryoat ,

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch!

[Zyf]

Votecount 1.07

Xkfyu (2)

Zyf , Lowell ,

Transcend (2)

Saru , Vedith ,

TierShift (1)

texcat ,

gerryoat (1)

TierShift ,

Mimikyu (1)

Transcend ,

Zyf (3)

Mimikyu , xSoniaNevermindx , Xkfyu ,

Not Voting (3)

algebra , BlackStar , gerryoat ,

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch!

wow
ok
this is terrible

can we please consolidate our votes /somewhere/

[Mimikyu]

you still have 0 good reasons for voting me
please lay them out nice and pretty for me in list format
thanks

1) You're making a lot of non-content noise. Zero town-incentive to do this. Large scum-incentive to do this.
2) You're switching your vote around a ton. Interesting you criticize me for supposedly having such a large lynch pool when you voting for everyone makes an even more effective large one. "Well I suspected them before when I voted for them".
3) You ping me.

[Mimikyu]

Votecount 1.07

Xkfyu (2)

Zyf , Lowell ,

Transcend (2)

Saru , Vedith ,

TierShift (1)

texcat ,

gerryoat (1)

TierShift ,

Mimikyu (1)

Transcend ,

Zyf (3)

Mimikyu , xSoniaNevermindx , Xkfyu ,

Not Voting (3)

algebra , BlackStar , gerryoat ,

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch!

wow
ok
this is terrible

can we please consolidate our votes /somewhere/

Hey we've started to consolidate. Already have a wagon of 3 going.

[Zyf]

Votecount 1.07

Xkfyu (2)

Zyf , Lowell ,

Transcend (2)

Saru , Vedith ,

TierShift (1)

texcat ,

gerryoat (1)

TierShift ,

Mimikyu (1)

Transcend ,

Zyf (3)

Mimikyu , xSoniaNevermindx , Xkfyu ,

Not Voting (3)

algebra , BlackStar , gerryoat ,

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch!

wow
ok
this is terrible

can we please consolidate our votes /somewhere/

Hey we've started to consolidate. Already have a wagon of 3 going.

I don't even give a shit if it's me
this is a terrible gamestate for town because nothing's getting done
btw there's also 2 wagons of 2 which doesn't help either

[Zyf]

you still have 0 good reasons for voting me
please lay them out nice and pretty for me in list format
thanks

1) You're making a lot of non-content noise. Zero town-incentive to do this. Large scum-incentive to do this.
2) You're switching your vote around a ton. Interesting you criticize me for supposedly having such a large lynch pool when you voting for everyone makes an even more effective large one. "Well I suspected them before when I voted for them".
3) You ping me.

1) what is this noise you speak of
2) I've been pretty consistent for the most part but after saru there's been a lot of little things to pick at, but no large leads
the problem is that a lot of the scummier-looking people are lurking, so unless we get them to L-2/L-1 and get them prodded, nothing's gonna get done
3) great reason that I can totally defend against
it's not even a post/collection of posts that pings you, apparently it's my existence?

[Mimikyu]

Votecount 1.07

Xkfyu (2)

Zyf , Lowell ,

Transcend (2)

Saru , Vedith ,

TierShift (1)

texcat ,

gerryoat (1)

TierShift ,

Mimikyu (1)

Transcend ,

Zyf (3)

Mimikyu , xSoniaNevermindx , Xkfyu ,

Not Voting (3)

algebra , BlackStar , gerryoat ,

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch!

wow
ok
this is terrible

can we please consolidate our votes /somewhere/

Hey we've started to consolidate. Already have a wagon of 3 going.

I don't even give a shit if it's me
this is a terrible gamestate for town because nothing's getting done
btw there's also 2 wagons of 2 which doesn't help either

Is it terrible? We have literally over 10 days left.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

2) I've been pretty consistent for the most part

BS

[Transcend]

Can live with this

VOTE: Xkfyu

[Zyf]

Votecount 1.07

Xkfyu (2)

Zyf , Lowell ,

Transcend (2)

Saru , Vedith ,

TierShift (1)

texcat ,

gerryoat (1)

TierShift ,

Mimikyu (1)

Transcend ,

Zyf (3)

Mimikyu , xSoniaNevermindx , Xkfyu ,

Not Voting (3)

algebra , BlackStar , gerryoat ,

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch!

wow
ok
this is terrible

can we please consolidate our votes /somewhere/

Hey we've started to consolidate. Already have a wagon of 3 going.

I don't even give a shit if it's me
this is a terrible gamestate for town because nothing's getting done
btw there's also 2 wagons of 2 which doesn't help either

Is it terrible? We have literally over 10 days left.

you yourself acknowledge that noise is bad
right now votes are flying everywhere with little to no direction
we may have 10 days, but I'm not worried about time
I'm worried about the content we're going to have to sift through that's not even useful

[Zyf]

2) I've been pretty consistent for the most part

BS

>until after saru
don't cut out parts just to suit your opinions

[Zyf]

do i need to make a case on xk

[xSoniaNevermindx]

do i need to make a case on xk

I incist

[Zyf]

do i need to make a case on xk

I incist

*insist

fine

[Mimikyu]

you still have 0 good reasons for voting me
please lay them out nice and pretty for me in list format
thanks

1) You're making a lot of non-content noise. Zero town-incentive to do this. Large scum-incentive to do this.
2) You're switching your vote around a ton. Interesting you criticize me for supposedly having such a large lynch pool when you voting for everyone makes an even more effective large one. "Well I suspected them before when I voted for them".
3) You ping me.

1) what is this noise you speak of
2) I've been pretty consistent for the most part but after saru there's been a lot of little things to pick at, but no large leads
the problem is that a lot of the scummier-looking people are lurking, so unless we get them to L-2/L-1 and get them prodded, nothing's gonna get done
3) great reason that I can totally defend against
it's not even a post/collection of posts that pings you, apparently it's my existence?

1) Certainly not going to list them all, but I looked for posts after RVS and this one is a good example (although there are many more)

Lowell is town but I officially don't trust him for jack shit because he makes terrible life decisions

2) Disagree that you've been consistent.
3) Yes, which is why that's a gut-portion of my read. Always need to have some of that.