Mini 1820 — Lazy Summer Mafia (Game Over)

[Slandaar]

I think him claiming the role plus the specifics of this setup mean even if he was town the role has already essentially lost utility.

How can you argue this when you didn't get him to claim his abilities?

[Slandaar]

1) Naomi

I mean you accused me of not reading the thread...

3) I did one because I felt forced and I had to do one.

Hmmm. Who was making you feel forced to post one?

[MariaR]

I'm trying to figure out what buttons KTS pressed.

All my other scumreads were kinda eh maybe. This one though

Town
Infinity
Raskol
Manuel
Naomi
Unfortunately rb

Fairly town
Kraska

More like towneh
JarJar

Leaving
LQ, KTS, DGB, Maria, Aristo

Aristo kinda dealt with the case from Raskol well. LQ going for rb is kinda eh maybe.

Leaving
Maria, DGB, KTS.

KTS/DGB are definite.

Also LMFAO what is Manuel doing.

No wonder I can't read this game. There's more terrible votes than there are scum. Those of you that are town can u plz not?

Why are you voting me? do you have reasons? no. Just a bruised ego.

Stop being a waste of space and actually vote scum.

Here's a few here you keep going like this "could be town" "eh maybe" on this one more like a fall back being unsure on reads is a normal thing but not the way you're wording them

[MariaR]

1) Naomi

I mean you accused me of not reading the thread...

3) I did one because I felt forced and I had to do one.

Hmmm. Who was making you feel forced to post one?

Kraska I made a huge deal about not really knowing how much my reads stand and I got asked to make one and I didn't really want to say no

[MariaR]

When you were calling me scum in a few posts (like the one I quoted) did you read where I said "i'll say why they're scum later" Or did you miss that.

[Slandaar]

My reads are what they are. You are saying all my reads should be certain town or certain scum?

Do you think people would sheep my 'eh' reads? Am I trying to get people to sheep those reads?

[Slandaar]

When you were calling me scum in a few posts (like the one I quoted) did you read where I said "i'll say why they're scum later" Or did you miss that.

I just don't find it relevant. I didn't like how you had RB&Infinity as scum but liked their interaction. Then you voted LQ? I didn't really need further explanation. As said I didn't have you as super scum just most likely of everyone bar DGB/KTS.

[MariaR]

When you were calling me scum in a few posts (like the one I quoted) did you read where I said "i'll say why they're scum later" Or did you miss that.

I just don't find it relevant. I didn't like how you had RB&Infinity as scum but liked their interaction. Then you voted LQ? I didn't really need further explanation. As said I didn't have you as super scum just most likely of everyone bar DGB/KTS.

I didn't like their interaction I said I don't think it's a SvS interaction and I went for the read I was more sure on in my 3 of RB/Infinity/LQ

and to answer your other question I think people should out certain reads instead of eh reads but that's my personal pref

[Slandaar]

My reads are what they are. You are saying all my reads should be certain town or certain scum?

Do you think people would sheep my 'eh' reads? Am I trying to get people to sheep those reads?

and to answer your other question I think people should out certain reads instead of eh reads but that's my personal pref

Indeed it is.

That doesn't answer my second/third question. (the more important part)

[MariaR]

I think I answered all your questions unless I missed any?

[Slandaar]

Do you think people would sheep my 'eh' reads? Am I trying to get people to sheep those reads?

[Manuel87]

I agree that some reads are hard to explain because your not sure about them yourself but that doesnt mean readlists help scum more then town.
Asking about those reads helps town understand the thought process of the other player and judge his interactions during the game.

Also you just used the argument you dont like about readlists against Slandaar i am confused.

[MariaR]

No I don't think people would and no I don't think you are trying to get people to sheep them I haven't seen you push on any "eh" read

[Slandaar]

No I don't think people would and no I don't think you are trying to get people to sheep them I haven't seen you push on any "eh" read

Excellent.

Here's a few here you keep going like this "could be town" "eh maybe" on this one more like a fall back being unsure on reads is a normal thing but not the way you're wording them

he went at it also trying to give reads with escape routes so incase any of his reads got sheeped and was wrong he'd always have a blanket to fall back on

I'm out for a bit need to work. Think about it.

[MariaR]

just because I said I don't LIKE reads lists doesn't mean I think readlists are scummy

[Manuel87]

just because I said I don't LIKE reads lists doesn't mean I think readlists are scummy

What is this referring to?

[MariaR]

I agree that some reads are hard to explain because your not sure about them yourself but that doesnt mean readlists help scum more then town.
Asking about those reads helps town understand the thought process of the other player and judge his interactions during the game.

Also you just used the argument you dont like about readlists against Slandaar i am confused.

To the last line of this because that's how I took it but it's also mostly a statement for everyone

[Manuel87]

I agree that some reads are hard to explain because your not sure about them yourself but that doesnt mean readlists help scum more then town.
Asking about those reads helps town understand the thought process of the other player and judge his interactions during the game.

Also you just used the argument you dont like about readlists against Slandaar i am confused.

To the last line of this because that's how I took it but it's also mostly a statement for everyone

I didnt say nor mean that readlists are scummy. I said its confusing that you would use the exact argument you used in your example for why you dont like readlists against Slandaar.
You said a thought process like that only helps scum so why would you use it in this case?

[MariaR]

I never brought up reads lists when I was talking with slanndaar I was saying his eh reads he can use to fall back I never tried to say "read lists only help scum so you must be scum!"

[MariaR]

I'm sorry if i'm not getting what you're trying to say it's all very confusing atm

[JarJarDrinks]

This game's really in a state of limbo until DGB posts stuff or gets replaced.

[Slandaar]

I was talking with slanndaar I was saying his eh reads he can use to fall back

But they are my reads. You are basically saying I have to read people either Solid Town or Solid Scum I cannot have any inbetween.

Player A (town) *makes reads list* Player B (Town) "Can I have you reasoning for Player D" Player A: Well this is kinda a hard townread/scumread for me to explain Player B: This guy must be scum his reads are weak and he can't explain them! *Player A is lynched*

Manuel is saying I am player A and you are Player B.

[MariaR]

I was talking with slanndaar I was saying his eh reads he can use to fall back

But they are my reads. You are basically saying I have to read people either Solid Town or Solid Scum I cannot have any inbetween. Yes it's something I always dislike because of the thing I said before and I guess I have no right to push on someone for having maybe reads it's a bad habit I have from playing java mafia I should explain it more...I guess what i'm trying to say is lets say you have someone in your "could be scum" pool and that player flips mafia being like: See I told you! THAT'S what would ping me

Player A (town) *makes reads list* Player B (Town) "Can I have you reasoning for Player D" Player A: Well this is kinda a hard townread/scumread for me to explain Player B: This guy must be scum his reads are weak and he can't explain them! *Player A is lynched*

Manuel is saying I am player A and you are Player B.

OHHHHHH OKAY...I am slow it's a huge point on way I dislike giant reads lists because I see the thing I showed you happen a ton because of it

[MariaR]

^Ignore this post I added words in by mistake that make it look weird

[MariaR]

I was talking with slanndaar I was saying his eh reads he can use to fall back

But they are my reads. You are basically saying I have to read people either Solid Town or Solid Scum I cannot have any inbetween.

Player A (town) *makes reads list* Player B (Town) "Can I have you reasoning for Player D" Player A: Well this is kinda a hard townread/scumread for me to explain Player B: This guy must be scum his reads are weak and he can't explain them! *Player A is lynched*

Manuel is saying I am player A and you are Player B.

1) Yes it's something I always dislike because of the thing I said before and I guess I have no right to push on someone for having maybe reads it's a bad habit I have from playing java mafia I should explain it more...I guess what i'm trying to say is lets say you have someone in your "could be scum" pool and that player flips mafia being like: See I told you! THAT'S what would ping me

Okay and this was mostly to just say why I dislike reads lists and doing them because this is what happens a lot in my experience on the site