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Was this directed at me?In post 1648, Cephrir wrote:lord spare me you doing that again, lol.
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Slot went from zero to pushing a BS policy lynch on my top town read, and some pushes that don't deserve the title of scum-hunting.In post 1642, Imperium wrote:also while you're expanding on reads could you explain what that camntsuki read was about?- Spiffeh
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OkIn post 1653, Cephrir wrote:
yepIn post 1649, Spiffeh wrote:
Was this directed at me?In post 1648, Cephrir wrote:lord spare me you doing that again, lol.
are you scum hoping to rally the people who don't like me
Why was that the first thing you jumped to?- Imperium
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@Farside:
These are some examples of DS posts that I was talking about in that paragraph on him.
This is talking about you (who claimed you had a flavor that might be contrary to expectations). As scum, I don't think it takes an extraordinary amount of effort to talk about how maybe your Negative Utility Claim that wasn't a negative utility claim at all (but if there's an expectation for him to be active I can see him filling up his posts with stuff like this), whereas I don't understand why he's talking about it now as town when he's continually reminded us that he will be alive Day 3/4 (and thus isn't worried about dying before rooting this out).In post 837, DiamondSentinel wrote:@MoI
Setup speculation typically works well. Shos' game was an entirely different situation (and still bullshit. It was borderline bastard. "You are unable to be killed [except by these sources which you have no idea about]". There's a difference between swingy and lying to people)
Additionally, there are a variety of situations that Farside's claim could turn up badly. One that I'm thinking of is a ludicrous claim that she then points back to it and says "see, I was already talking about it from day 1" (I don't know exactly how it would work. I'm quite terrible at lying or figuring out ways in which someone would lie in some made-up, hypothetical situation)
This is an extraordinarily weak resistance to a wagon that wasn't particularly driven in the first place; the picture that I have in my mind when reading this post is the Snarky wagon being a small child pushing around one of those toy mowers with the plastic balls bouncing around and DiamondSentinel being a drunk parent on the front lawn mumbling something unintelligible to himself before passing out yet again, and is a good example of what I mean by "active, present, but not really giving a fuck". He's around. He's commenting on it. But it's pretty clear to me that it doesn't care.In post 861, DiamondSentinel wrote:Man, this wagon really doesn't have any resistance.
And hadn't it popped up in like two days?
We need a counter wagon...
And then instead of commenting on the Snarky wagon, DS just wants to know whether we can read him or not.In post 925, DiamondSentinel wrote:
Can you read me, Nacho/Tammy (I don't know which one this is). I don't think you can. Very few can read me consistently.In post 923, Imperium wrote:and i think this is the only player that i've played with that this holds true for
if i have a bunch of townreads elsewhere that i feel good about then sure it's snarky time but otherwise probably not, regardless of case
Who cares? What does this have to do with anything going on in the thread right now?
This is the "BRO, produce content so I can read you!" post. It was a strange post for him to make because while he has been posting a lot, sure, but actual content or even questioning that he's produced has been pretty close to absent.In post 1325, DiamondSentinel wrote:
I thought you said you were going to be snarky. Not facetious. The fact that you would put 2 completely different playstyles up beside each other and said objectively that one is better than the other is ridiculous. I won't get into why it's ridiculous now, but expect a nice long rant post-game.In post 1315, BROseidon wrote:
I'm not sure whether to respond with condescending snark or actual content, so you get both.In post 1313, DiamondSentinel wrote:
Actually, I was more talking about how you have an issue with lurking. Not like PV does. But still, it's an issue at times (again, don't care about the reasons)In post 1310, BROseidon wrote:
I mean, I am playing?In post 1308, DiamondSentinel wrote:Yeah, time to start playing. You've had a slight issue with this in both games I've been in with you (and I don't really care about your excuse for it)
"You don't play mafia the way I think everyone should play it, therefore you aren't playing it."
You know what happens when everyone spams up the thread with incoherent walls of shit? The game becomes massively unfun.
So I'll leave that to you while I both don't shit up the thread and end up with better reads than you (assuming you are, in fact, town, which I'm not particularly compelled to believe at this point).
1) And I'm still a better player than you. What does that say about your spamming up the thread every fucking game
2) A certain portion of the game needs to lurk at various parts of the game, especially in a large. Lurking with 5-7 people left? Yeah, problem. Lurking because it's day 1 of a large game and people are spamming everywhere and you want day 1 to not hit 100 pagesagain? Correct.
Not to mention contextual lurking based on PR-play and mixups for PR play, but I don't really think you have the nuance to employ those tactics so I'll leave it at that.
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why shouldn't it be?In post 1655, Spiffeh wrote:
OkIn post 1653, Cephrir wrote:
yepIn post 1649, Spiffeh wrote:
Was this directed at me?In post 1648, Cephrir wrote:lord spare me you doing that again, lol.
are you scum hoping to rally the people who don't like me
Why was that the first thing you jumped to?"I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener- Spiffeh
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861 was a joke post, Imperium. It was right after someone said commented about how someone was going to complain that there was no resistance, no counterwagon, and it popped up really quickly“Why was I chosen?'
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These are some examples of things that bothered me about MoI:
I thought it was weird that Magna commented that the wagon on Snarky dissipated but didn't actually try to stop the push against it; he framed the wagon dissipating as "welp, Nacho said that he didn't think no one could read him and thus he became unlynchable". I didn't understand why he moved from the camntsuki wagon from the Snarky wagon when he was pushing that he did know how to read Snarky well and he did legitimately feel that Snarky was scum while the camntsuki push looked more like this:In post 1102, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Also the Snarky wagon dissipating on Nachos cute but irrelevant “Oh, no-one can read him” tale I think will be a great place to start looking for bussers who hopped at the first sign of an easy exit.
In post 1091, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Agreed.In post 1066, camntsuki wrote:Dear townies.
This game is already intolerable, and it's only day 1.
Please, for Cheetory, lets purge.
VOTE: CamntIn post 1102, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Complains about how it is Pro-scum to not “project Town”. Proudly states it is what they are doing.In post 1062, camntsuki wrote:People who "project town" end up dead, mostly. And most endgames are a bunch of lurkertown and a bunch of scumzors, and the games suck and scum win.
Lynch away!
A VT claim with like 4 total votes?In post 1095, camntsuki wrote:w/e. I'm going to bed, but if this wagon builds steam:
We are Clifford, The big Red Dog, and we are Vanilla.
g'night! Lynch us if you want!
More Camnt votes. This needs to happen today.
And while the rhetoric of believing that camntsuki was very strongly scum was there, Magna's usual pushing scum cases is normally more actual casing and far less showmanship, which was why I was saying it didn't really feel like he actually believed it.In post 1105, MagnaofIllusion wrote:This is 5 of the required 10.
Come on people let's get this done!A hydra of Nacho and Tammy!- Imperium
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These are some examples of things that bothered me about MoI:
I thought it was weird that Magna commented that the wagon on Snarky dissipated but didn't actually try to stop the push against it; he framed the wagon dissipating as "welp, Nacho said that he didn't think no one could read him and thus he became unlynchable". I didn't understand why he moved from the camntsuki wagon from the Snarky wagon when he was pushing that he did know how to read Snarky well and he did legitimately feel that Snarky was scum while the camntsuki push looked more like this:In post 1102, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Also the Snarky wagon dissipating on Nachos cute but irrelevant “Oh, no-one can read him” tale I think will be a great place to start looking for bussers who hopped at the first sign of an easy exit.
In post 1091, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Agreed.In post 1066, camntsuki wrote:Dear townies.
This game is already intolerable, and it's only day 1.
Please, for Cheetory, lets purge.
VOTE: CamntIn post 1102, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Complains about how it is Pro-scum to not “project Town”. Proudly states it is what they are doing.In post 1062, camntsuki wrote:People who "project town" end up dead, mostly. And most endgames are a bunch of lurkertown and a bunch of scumzors, and the games suck and scum win.
Lynch away!
A VT claim with like 4 total votes?In post 1095, camntsuki wrote:w/e. I'm going to bed, but if this wagon builds steam:
We are Clifford, The big Red Dog, and we are Vanilla.
g'night! Lynch us if you want!
More Camnt votes. This needs to happen today.
And while the rhetoric of believing that camntsuki was very strongly scum was there, Magna's usual pushing scum cases is normally more actual casing and far less showmanship, which was why I was saying it didn't really feel like he actually believed it.In post 1105, MagnaofIllusion wrote:This is 5 of the required 10.
Come on people let's get this done!A hydra of Nacho and Tammy!- Imperium
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Missed that context, sorry.In post 1663, DiamondSentinel wrote:861 was a joke post, Imperium. It was right after someone said commented about how someone was going to complain that there was no resistance, no counterwagon, and it popped up really quicklyA hydra of Nacho and Tammy!- DiamondSentinel
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IlyIn post 442, hiplop wrote:In post 440, Grib wrote:Hi Cheeto.
Help me read hiplop. I think directly interacting with him is going to fuel any potential conf-biasing.Spoiler: mhm- MagnaofIllusion
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Wait ... this is the slot you participated in downplaying my scum read on for a not-insignificant amount of time.In post 1648, Cephrir wrote:lord spare me you doing that again, lol.
are you scum hoping to rally the people who don't like me
And he looks at you sideways after replacing in and suddenly that slot is now possible scum?"I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
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Farside,
Snarky is lock town to you because of this post?A hydra of Nacho and Tammy!- Cephrir
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is it? you asked who was with you and you don't even seem to be done readingIn post 1662, Spiffeh wrote:Because that's a really arbitrary and quick conclusion to draw based on that one post
Maybe you're nervous??!?!!?!?!?
if anything, that seems like a quick conclusion to draw."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener- Cephrir
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*shrug*In post 1669, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Wait ... this is the slot you participated in downplaying my scum read on for a not-insignificant amount of time.In post 1648, Cephrir wrote:lord spare me you doing that again, lol.
are you scum hoping to rally the people who don't like me
And he looks at you sideways after replacing in and suddenly that slot is now possible scum?
maybe maybe not
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