Mini 1805 [C'est fini!]

Sméagol · Post Post #1975 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:52 pm

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Day 4 #02

Derek12 [

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Dragon of the West / Derek12 / F-oh-ex / Titus

There are 5 active players.
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Deadline is

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Dragon of the West · Post Post #1976 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:34 pm

In post 1974, F-oh-ex wrote:seeing how we're at LyLo

how are you sure about this

Eggman · Post Post #1977 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:33 pm

In post 1974, F-oh-ex wrote:If I don't see a claim in the next post Derek makes, I'm automatically lynching him.

This, too, seems suspicious.
VOTE: F-oh-ex

Derek12 · Post Post #1978 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:33 pm

I'm guessing F-Oh-Ex for scum then Titus as last anti-town by PoE.

In post 1974, F-oh-ex wrote:I'll post my full ISO of Derek later. From my POV, however, it's very likely he's scum and seeing how we're at LyLo, I would like his claim. And I would like it now. If I don't see a claim in the next post Derek makes, I'm automatically lynching him.

While a cute threat, you're not a triplevoter.

Derek12 · Post Post #1979 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:25 pm

I don't like the way Infinity treated F-Oh-Ex.

Whenever he mentions F-Oh-Ex, it usually just boiled down to Infinity calling him town for extremely vague or weird reasons, an example being from 1126 to 1139. Despite the lasting townread, there sure wasn't much substance behind it.

F-oh-ex · Post Post #1980 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:56 pm

@DotW It's 3v2 or 3v1v1 or 2v2v1. The first two scenarios are straight-up LyLos, whereas in the third one we need to lynch Mafia.

@Eggman Refusing to claim at this point is anti-town, especially when a wagon is forming. The fact that no one but Titus bothered to reply to my post about massclaim is suspicious too. He's dodging a claim and I do have some info about him so yes, I am willing to lynch for it.

@Derek12 That's a cute OMGUS. I'm on phone so have trouble with quoting but let me get back to your ISO later tonight.

VOTE: Derek

F-oh-ex · Post Post #1981 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:58 pm

Skimming through it, I recalled correctly - you never even put a read list. This allows you to make a bullshit rhetoric about PoE. It's also curious because the two people you pressured were Egg and Dragon, who you now claim to be your townreads

Eggman · Post Post #1982 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:33 am

UNVOTE:
I think I'll ISO both F-oh-ex and Derek and use those to come to a conclusion, along with what we have already. Expect a post... once I get access to my laptop, so sometime in the afternoon.

F-oh-ex · Post Post #1983 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:41 am

I'll have access to my laptop in ~12 hours from now. I'll be checking from my phone every once in a while.

F-oh-ex · Post Post #1984 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:42 am

So expect Derek's/Dragon's/Titus' ISOs then. I doubt I'll post all 3 but at least 1 will be there.

Dragon of the West · Post Post #1985 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:02 am

In post 1980, F-oh-ex wrote:@DotW It's 3v2 or 3v1v1 or 2v2v1. The first two scenarios are straight-up LyLos, whereas in the third one we need to lynch Mafia.

for the 3v1v1 isn't it still possible for town to win with either a no lynch or a mislynch though? The possibility of crosskill between scum and SK could lead to a town win, no?

F-oh-ex · Post Post #1986 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:35 am

You're right about 3v1v1, I should have said Possible LyLo. Thing is, for 3v1v1, we have the game in our hands. NL leaves it in hands of scum and possibly makes us lose - in case of town deaths/other setup

Titus · Post Post #1987 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:16 am

Catching up now.

Titus · Post Post #1988 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:18 am

In post 1973, Eggman wrote:Alright.
VOTE: Derek
I'll sheep anyone who has a good case. Going with Dragon for now, since I was also sorta scumreading Derek.

VOTE: Derek

Dragon can hammer if he wants.

Titus · Post Post #1989 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:20 am

In post 1978, Derek12 wrote:I'm guessing F-Oh-Ex for scum then Titus as last anti-town by PoE.

In post 1974, F-oh-ex wrote:I'll post my full ISO of Derek later. From my POV, however, it's very likely he's scum and seeing how we're at LyLo, I would like his claim. And I would like it now. If I don't see a claim in the next post Derek makes, I'm automatically lynching him.
While a cute threat, you're not a triplevoter.

Yeah, you get to die. I see I hammered now. No regrets after this.

Eggman · Post Post #1990 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:47 am

Actually, you didn't. I unvoted.
Will ISO in a few minutes.

Sméagol · Post Post #1991 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:25 pm

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Day 4 #03

Derek12 [

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Abstaining [3]:

Dragon of the West / Derek12 /

Eggman

There are 5 active players.
Absolute majority is

3

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Majority has

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been reached.

Previous vote count
Final day 4 vote count

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Deadline is

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Dragon of the West · Post Post #1992 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:13 pm

In post 1959, Titus wrote:I want to lynch Dragon I think.

Lynching group scum is the best scenario but it's like playing with fire. Miss and we certainly lose.

In post 1988, Titus wrote:
In post 1973, Eggman wrote:Alright.
VOTE: Derek
I'll sheep anyone who has a good case. Going with Dragon for now, since I was also sorta scumreading Derek.
VOTE: Derek

Dragon can hammer if he wants.

How did you get from lynch me to sheep me?

Dragon of the West · Post Post #1993 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:17 pm

In post 1983, F-oh-ex wrote:I'll have access to my laptop in ~12 hours from now. I'll be checking from my phone every once in a while.

looking forward to this

In post 1990, Eggman wrote:Actually, you didn't. I unvoted.
Will ISO in a few minutes.

also looking forward to this

Eggman · Post Post #1994 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 4:26 pm

In post 123, F-oh-ex wrote:
In post 120, Robbnva wrote:
In post 116, F-oh-ex wrote:As far as I see it, we're still in RVS, I voted one of the two people who haven't posted yet.
game was out of rvs by page 2
So apparently I still suck with reading some things, pardon my noobness.

In post 117, F-oh-ex wrote: When I am forced to catch up (and I often am due to time zones), I prefer to take a few horus to read everything carefully a few times.

Timestamps are consistent.

In post 520, F-oh-ex wrote:The reads go as following:
Strong townreads - Robbnva, Smithereens
Townreads - Dwlee (I want to be careful here, however, because he seems to be a very good player and I wouldn't like to underestimate his manipulation abilities as Mafia), Dragon, atm (possible subject to policy earlier)
Null reads - MM4, stelo, Akigoku (aka lurk squad), Derek12 (just noticed I don't really have a read on him. Will ISO)
Scumreads [in that order] - Creature, Eggman, crazycrab (mutually exclusive to be scum with Creature)

UNVOTE: Eggman
VOTE: Creature

Still no Derek ISO, even when he said he would a while back.

In post 1410, Creature wrote:If F-oh-ex is scum, it'd make DotW look pretty town.

Scum team: F-oh-ex/atm487/petroleumjelly

I have basically nothing else to say and Creature (conftown)'s quote sums this up well. I'll hammer now.

Intent. FoS: Titus.

Please claim!

Dragon of the West · Post Post #1995 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 5:12 pm

Egg could you do the Derek ISO? I care about that one more to see if you see similar things as I do. Thank you for being the lone responder today

Derek12 · Post Post #1996 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:24 pm

One-Shot BP

Derek12 · Post Post #1997 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:35 pm

In post 1994, Eggman wrote:
In post 520, F-oh-ex wrote:The reads go as following:
Strong townreads - Robbnva, Smithereens
Townreads - Dwlee (I want to be careful here, however, because he seems to be a very good player and I wouldn't like to underestimate his manipulation abilities as Mafia), Dragon, atm (possible subject to policy earlier)
Null reads - MM4, stelo, Akigoku (aka lurk squad), Derek12 (just noticed I don't really have a read on him. Will ISO)
Scumreads [in that order] - Creature, Eggman, crazycrab (mutually exclusive to be scum with Creature)

UNVOTE: Eggman
VOTE: Creature
Still no Derek ISO, even when he said he would a while back.

This isn't where he promised to ISO Titus and I recently, that's from here:

In post 1865, F-oh-ex wrote:Interesting (although probably irrelevant fact): everyone alive was either on Shiro wagon (DotW and I) or NJAC wagon (the rest).

Egg is Town.
DGB's claim would have to be some kind of sick weird gambit if he's not Town. And I did townread Smithereens.
DotW is also pretty Townish in my eyes.
Titus is a townlean from skimming her ISO. Her previous slot, atm, was completely NAI.

Derek12, I really didn't like his Day 2 play, especially that hammer. Was it necessary to push the game forward and it was the only wagon happening? My townlean here is nullified. Slight FoS until I ISO you meticulously.
Shiro - your slot reeked of scum so much that I'd be inclined to think you're Jester if this was still a thing. I wish I had gathered some info about you but so far, you're scum to me.

I'll redo some ISOs, starting with Titus and Derek - they're the quickest ones to do.

That splits my current read list in 4-2. General consensus seemed to be that the setup is either 10v3 or 9v3v1. It seems that presence of SK is confirmed now. So unless it's actually 9v2v1, I'm one scumread short... time to verify my Townreads then.

It's been a solid two weeks and he hasn't bothered doing that ISO. Also considering that he "really didnt like" my Day 2 play, I'm surprised he never bothered to actually bring it up during the day itself.

Derek12 · Post Post #1998 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:55 pm

I'm wondering if F-Oh-Ex is going to end up actually posting his case/ISO on me or if he's just going to stall for another couple of days so he won't need to.

Because at this point nobody on my wagon has bothered to make a case or do anything beyond just calling me scum, and it seems to be working.

F-oh-ex · Post Post #1999 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:13 pm

In post 19, Derek12 wrote:I'm in a league game I'm busy

But seriously

VOTE: Creature

Serious vote.

In post 110, Derek12 wrote:VOTE: F-oh-ex

Rob pretty much said what I was thinking, we're out of RVS and the shitposting comment seems like an excuse for not posting real content.

That's a very quick jump considering Creature was a "serious vote".

In post 689, Derek12 wrote:
In post 688, Robbnva wrote:
In post 684, Creature wrote:Surely, if they were an average player I would push him harder, but compared to Newbie 1715, he looks very different.
What if he is an average player and he's just very manipulative?
You said you read parts of Newbie 1715 right? I skimmed it for fun a bit before this game started, and it makes me highly doubt this.

You skimmed Newbie 1715 pregame for fun? And then you use it to handwave someone's thought? You make me chuckle.

In post 1287, Derek12 wrote:I'm here now. I'd prefer crab lynch, but I wouldn't really have a problem with going Mario instead if needed. Since we seem to be getting an extension, I'll likely be online around deadline to swap if needed.

You scumread crab pretty strongly throughout the whole day but you never said anything about Mario. I don't think that Town!you would want to swap there.

Then there are like bazillion posts pressuring Creature. Creature, who was a Village Idiot at that point, was a good choice to stick to in order to look as if you were scumhunting.

In post 1949, Derek12 wrote:
In post 1947, Eggman wrote: @F-oh-ex: if anything, SK is now explicitly deconfirmed. There was only one NK in play because we lynched the other one yesterday. SKs are always compulsive, no? So I believe it's 3v2. So this is LYLO.
Are you still proposing that mafia decided to shoot themselves during the night? Unless DGB lied, there needs to be another source of kills for night 2 to make sense.

In post 1951, Derek12 wrote:Eggman works in mysterious ways.

These scream "noise post" to me.

Frankly, there's just not much in your ISO, you spent the game sticking to crab and Creature but there's just not a lot of substance anywhere. Just as if you were faking just enough presence to look okay.