Kids TV Show Characters Mafia - Endgame

[Eleven]

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Votecount 2.5

[4] DiamondSentinel ~ Medical Junkies, Firebringer, BROseidon, kdowns
[4] Spiffeh ~ Grib, MagnaofIllusion, kraska77, Transcend
[2] BROseidon ~ farside22, DiamondSentinel
[1] hiplop ~ SnarkySnowman
[1] kdowns ~ Spiffeh

Not Voting (3) - Cephrir, hiplop, keyenpeydee

With 15 alive, it's 8 to lynch!

Deadline is at (expired on 2016-09-05 12:00:00).
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[Cephrir]

I have a few minutes so my issue with Bro as I said was how he takes a few quotes from players and calls them scum.
He doesn't take everything stated in the game and just votes for those few post he found and calls the player scum.

Here are a few examples.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p8249987
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8249385

What's wrong with that?

What do you think of farside repeating the "bro is cherrypicking" arguments when all of my reads have been articulated in wholistic/"feels" form, and farside is literally just pointing to the places where I point out specific examples of broader trends?

I think her "case" is horrible and she might be scum

[Cephrir]

I have a few minutes so my issue with Bro as I said was how he takes a few quotes from players and calls them scum.
He doesn't take everything stated in the game and just votes for those few post he found and calls the player scum.

Here are a few examples.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p8249987
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8249385

What's wrong with that?

Oh so it's okay to take a few comments and call a player scum without reading the whole game and taking everything into account?
Seriously?
Because you know he's so call saying I'm doing that shit, you know that right?
I'm just checking to see if you are paying attention or if I have to smack you.

What part of that makes you think he's not reading the game?

Eh, maybe this isn't scum, though.

[Cephrir]

I have a few minutes so my issue with Bro as I said was how he takes a few quotes from players and calls them scum.
He doesn't take everything stated in the game and just votes for those few post he found and calls the player scum.

Here are a few examples.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p8249987
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8249385

What's wrong with that?

What do you think of farside repeating the "bro is cherrypicking" arguments when all of my reads have been articulated in wholistic/"feels" form, and farside is literally just pointing to the places where I point out specific examples of broader trends?

Yeah I quoted the majority.
You want an iso to prove it too.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

There you can point for players where you made something of a case that wasn't on 2 or 3 post from a player.
I fucking dare your lying ass there.

I haven't done that either. Am I scum? I bet I can name 10 other players who haven't done that.

[Cephrir]

Ceph what are your like

thoughts on the game?

I'll give you a reads li see t in a moment. It's probably a stack of waffles but we can find out together.

I realize my thought have not up to this point been particularly well packaged.

[Cephrir]

Kdowns is town as well btw so i don't like the counter wagon.

Explain?
The dude has made one case on one player and lurked most of the game so I'm curious about his read.

Gut and don't think he'd be this shitty as scum.

I encourage you to read Cyberpunk Mafia because I said this exact same thing about Dwlee and it won him the fucking game.

Never put blatant shitiness as "too terrible to be scum". You can do lynch-bait/scumminess for that, but never bad play. If bad play is pro-scum, lynch that mofo.

On account of the mods recent statement I am currently biting my tongue so hard it is literally bleeding.

[DiamondSentinel]

Also: Why the fuck are we forming counter-wagons when we have a fucking guilty.

1. FB fake-guilties all the time.

2. Spiffeh has shown no mechanical inconsistencies, and there are people who haven't found him terribly scummy.

3. FB has shown numerous red flags. e.g.

"Let's slow down this wagon" - This is a classic red-flag, which points to a fake-guilty.

He also tried to "reason out his vote" when he had a guilty, which should have been the only reason he needed.

VOTE: DiamondSentinel

This needs pressure, you are downright lying in this.

I don't actually have a guilty on Spiffeh, but seriously DS acts like he knew my result was a lie.
I don't like it at all, and he claims I fake guilty all the time.

Tsk tsk.

Called it.

So, let's NOT kill Spiffeh, because his reaction was really town. Additionally, farside is also very town. I'm starting to think that Cephrir is town, regardless of my opinion of their play.

KDowns still stays as 3P, if there is one, Bro is definitely scum, and FB can swing either way, just because this is such a common thing to happen.

[Cephrir]

I just clicked my iso by accident

Do you guys remember when I was being fun and upbeat and more positively oriented with my sass? Back when I thought this might be fun? Ah, to be so naive again.

[DiamondSentinel]

Also, FB. It's not

just

that you have a history of fake guilties. It's that you have a history of terrible gambits that very very easily could blow up in our face.

[DiamondSentinel]

(I'm looking at Machina Mafia when you threatened to go rogue...)

[Firebringer]

Also, FB. It's not

just

that you have a history of fake guilties. It's that you have a history of terrible gambits that very very easily could blow up in our face.

Bullshit.

(I'm looking at Machina Mafia when you threatened to go rogue...)

I didn't fucking fake a guilty on a player.

[hiplop]

VOTE: ds

behind

vla may be a bit longer than expected. internet is fucked here

[DiamondSentinel]

I didn't say you faked a guilty. I said you threatened to go rogue and not listen to the will of the town.

[Firebringer]

I didn't say you faked a guilty. I said you threatened to go rogue and not listen to the will of the town.

That wasn't a threat. I literally didn't give a shit what town said.

[Firebringer]

Also, how was me threatening to go rogue equivalent to this scenario?

[Cephrir]

im just going to stop quoting ds posts that make me angry, it is not productive

if someone else ever thinks he has a point, then i will step in and disabuse them of that notion

[DiamondSentinel]

So, you guys are voting to lynch me...

Because I recognized a shitty gambit/fake guilty?

This is especially terrible.

PEdit: It was objectively bad play. Same as here.

Firebringer, how often does one of your shitty gambits

actually

work out?

[Firebringer]

I am 99% certain DS knew my guilty was a lie as a result of being informed

[Firebringer]

So, you guys are voting to lynch me...

Because I recognized a shitty gambit/fake guilty?

This is especially terrible.

PEdit: It was objectively bad play. Same as here.

Firebringer, how often does one of your shitty gambits

actually

work out?

Can you actually name any gambits I have done, ever?

[DiamondSentinel]

I am 99% certain DS knew my guilty was a lie as a result of being informed

Firebringer.

We were in a hydra before. Now I want you to think.

I am a cocky son of a bitch (Cephrir can confirm). I have no "wishy-washy" phase. If I think of something, I will act confident about it to the ends of the earth.

Does this not look reminiscent of a cocky son of a bitch who will not back down on defending a *dubious* platform?

(also, your guilty didn't even make sense. You made it, and then you

tried to rationalize your vote

. YOUR GUILTY SHOULD SPEAK FOR YOURSELF! IF YOU ARE A COP, AND YOU HAVE A GUILTY, YOU DONT NEED TO WORRY ABOUT HOW SCUMMY THEY ACT! THEY COULD BE THE BIGGEST TOWNIE EVER, BUT IF YOU HAVE A GUILTY, THEN YOU KILL THEM!)

[Cephrir]

{}
{BROseidon, Spiffeh, Transcend, Firebringer, kraska, kdowns}
{DS, farside, Grib, hiplop, keyen, MOI}
{}
{Snarky}

Sir and madam not appearing in this reads list: MJ

There's your waffles

[DiamondSentinel]

So, you guys are voting to lynch me...

Because I recognized a shitty gambit/fake guilty?

This is especially terrible.

PEdit: It was objectively bad play. Same as here.

Firebringer, how often does one of your shitty gambits

actually

work out?

Can you actually name any gambits I have done, ever?

Can you not answer my question with a question?

[hiplop]

ceph why am i not higher????

[Firebringer]

So, you guys are voting to lynch me...

Because I recognized a shitty gambit/fake guilty?

This is especially terrible.

PEdit: It was objectively bad play. Same as here.

Firebringer, how often does one of your shitty gambits

actually

work out?

Can you actually name any gambits I have done, ever?

Can you not answer my question with a question?

You keep acting like I am known for doing this, when maybe 6 games out of my 120~ games on this site I have done some form of role lying/results faking.

Like, none of those you were even in.
So where the fuck are you coming up with this fake meta?

[DiamondSentinel]

So, you guys are voting to lynch me...

Because I recognized a shitty gambit/fake guilty?

This is especially terrible.

PEdit: It was objectively bad play. Same as here.

Firebringer, how often does one of your shitty gambits

actually

work out?

Can you actually name any gambits I have done, ever?

Can you not answer my question with a question?

You keep acting like I am known for doing this, when maybe 6 games out of my 120~ games on this site I have done some form of role lying/results faking.

Like, none of those you were even in.
So where the fuck are you coming up with this fake meta?

You act like

a. it's impossible for people to read other games
b. people to listen to what others have said
and c. lying/faking are completely unrelatable to strictly anti-town behavior.