Kids TV Show Characters Mafia - Endgame

[BROseidon]

Scum don't need information right now. Town does. Ergo, it's in our best interest to claim flavor.

Why aren't we lynching this holy fuck.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Why aren't we lynching this holy fuck.

Because being bad is not alignment indicative. Duh.

[Cephrir]

Read Imperium's iso and tell me you're still convinced DS is scum

[BROseidon]

This game is morons idk why we try

I mean you've done an excellent job proving my point.

Ceph and MJ are the only people I don't want to reach through the internet and punch in the face at this point. I guess hiplop, too, but that's because I like the guy and he isn't doing anything.

Which puts him above you.

Think about that for 2 fucking seconds you prick.

[BROseidon]

Why aren't we lynching this holy fuck.

Because being bad is not alignment indicative. Duh.

At a certain point it is.

"Too scummy to be scum" is sometimes "just scum"

[Spiffeh]

I haven't been that bad yet!

[BROseidon]

Read Imperium's iso and tell me you're still convinced DS is scum

Nacho is as addicted to bussing as I am to things I probably shouldn't mention in a mafia game.

[BROseidon]

I haven't been that bad yet!

Yeah I guess I haven't gotten banned yet so you're probably fine.

[Spiffeh]

How about we meet in the middle and lynch whoever I want to lynch

[BROseidon]

Like, I'm probably going to get lynched with 2 scum on my wagon today.

I'll flip town. People will STILL somehow call MJ scum because this game is literally that full of stupid.

MJ will get mislynched and flip friendly neighbor.

And I'll probably have an aneurysm by then.

[BROseidon]

How about we meet in the middle and lynch whoever I want to lynch

Is who you want to lynch in {DS, farside, grib, keyen, MoI}

Because that's my list at this point, although MoI is to get his bullshit out of the game more than actually thinking he's scum.

[keyenpeydee]

Why aren't we lynching this holy fuck.

Because being bad is not alignment indicative. Duh.

At a certain point it is.

"Too scummy to be scum" is sometimes "just scum"

Yep but it doesn't mean they're really scum. It's just luck.

[BROseidon]

tbh I could also probably to Transcend or kraska but those are more along the lines of "if I'm wrong, it's probably there" than "these are probably scum"

[BROseidon]

Why aren't we lynching this holy fuck.

Because being bad is not alignment indicative. Duh.

At a certain point it is.

"Too scummy to be scum" is sometimes "just scum"

Yep but it doesn't mean they're really scum. It's just luck.

[DiamondSentinel]

@MoI Flavor gives information.

Scum don't need information right now. Town does. Ergo, it's in our best interest to claim flavor.

Additionally, since we have no credible night action claims, then I would personally prefer to get information in the form of flavor.

Town has plenty of information. Imperium's flip is a goldmine. This has been discussed to death already today.

If your reasoning is "Dayhunting is hard" then don't expect anyone who doesn't think like you do (aka most players) to support it.

But enlighten me - had you gotten a Clifford the Big Red Dog claim out of Spiffeh / Camt without the VT claim what info would that have told you?

First: it would have told me that they thought that the VT role was less expected. I.e. That they would think that other things could be expected from that claim.
Second: it would have given me more information for what to expect from other flavors, because Clifford and Kim Possible are 2 very different shows.

For those who look, there is always information hidden in the flavor. It can catch a fakeclaim, if you can pick up on subtle clues.

Scum do need information so they can nightkill accordingly

Also, in a decently well modded game, flavor should give no alignment information and only a little role information at most

A decently well modded game doesn't have 7 possible strongman kills in a single night, or a role that can become completely deathproof. I could go on ad naseum.

The point is that it can't hurt or more than it helps us.

I don't think that's true, though. Suppose I claimed to be Yakko Warner (I am not). How would that help you?

I mean, this is kind of a useless discussion, because towns are very resistant to things like this anyways and it just plain isn't going to happen. But... yeah...

pedit: basically what moi said.

First I'd have to look up who that was.

But it's mostly that I'm looking for specific instances of flavor. There are telltale flavors that don't necessarily mean alignment, but can tell you a bit about the game. An example is if someone chose Pinky. I would pressure them, because it seems a bit illogical that the mod would reuse some of the same source material that he's already used while there are literally hundreds of kid's tv shows that could be used.

It's not much, but put together, these pieces can help you solve the game.

Or that the game is somewhat bastard.

Uh...

Is it possible your game has any of the following: cults, mid-game alignment changes, moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine. Telling someone they are a reflexive doctor when they're actually a PGO is not), secret win conditions, un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation, direct moderator influence during the game? (Yes/No) - No

Thank you for pointing out the ludicrous-ness of said supposition.

You've added another nail to your coffin, eventually.

PEdit: Actually, if by some miracle of God, you flip town, then MJ will not be lynched. Which means he will probably be NKd.

[Cephrir]

I finally decided to go for the mild effort of skimming Imperium's iso. I don't have a ton of confidence in my ability to gean a lot from it (primarily because I think Imperium are pretty good -- but I might be able to glean a little because they most likely expected to go deep). Still, you aren't likely to see me drawing every single one of the most obvious conclusions to their iso, just small ones that appeal to me.

How long has this day been going on for @Diamond

Waco vote sucks and has "easy nacho scapegoat" written all over it.

This sounds like someone with familiarity with my play.
Do you know me? Do you hate the wagon just because it feels easy? Or do you hate the wagon because of something you see in Waco's posts?

This seems like a good interaction for Transcend to me.

I'm interested in what others make of 922[/post, [post]923, 1676. 1676 seems like a bit of a reversal to me, I guess? I was going to call Snarky scum for being defended but I'm not sure Imperium makes that pretty needless switch off of Waco and onto Snarky in that case. I mean, sure, Snarky is not exactly a high value scumbuddy they would be afraid to bus, but their play the whole day around trying not to go after him and then doing so after all seems pretty weird particularly in a game that seems to heavily feature players who don't like to think all that critically.

[Cephrir]

Read Imperium's iso and tell me you're still convinced DS is scum

Nacho is as addicted to bussing as I am to things I probably shouldn't mention in a mafia game.

I think it's more the tone of interaction with him to me.

I don't know if I see him feeling the need to lecture his scumbuddy.

[keyenpeydee]

UNVOTE: Bro

I'm still undecided. I'm dumb only in this game.

[keyenpeydee]

Why aren't we lynching this holy fuck.

Because being bad is not alignment indicative. Duh.

At a certain point it is.

"Too scummy to be scum" is sometimes "just scum"

Yep but it doesn't mean they're really scum. It's just luck.

>o<

[BROseidon]

This seems like a good interaction for Transcend to me.

Good as in townie?

Because Nacho's point is actually right, and would make a lot of sense if Transcend were an alt.

[DiamondSentinel]

Y'know Broseidon, you are like the Officer Kirk to my Fonz.

[Cephrir]

Honestly I would utility lynch keyen at this point

[Cephrir]

This seems like a good interaction for Transcend to me.

Good as in townie?

Because Nacho's point is actually right, and would make a lot of sense if Transcend were an alt.

Yes, that's what I meant

[BROseidon]

Not all of us have watched crap TV from when America was super racist and terrible, DS

[MagnaofIllusion]

Is who you want to lynch in {DS, farside, grib, keyen, MoI}

Because that's my list at this point, although MoI is to get his bullshit out of the game more than actually thinking he's scum.

And this illustrates why you need rope.

Grib and Farside are most probably Town.
I've yet to see anything out of you in the way of a case to support either DS or Key from you.

And you are by far the most toxic presence left in the game after Katsuki was replaced. So if anyone needs to go simply to improve the quality of the thread it is you.

So you lynch list is bad.