In post 285, Accountant wrote:That's an outright misrep of what GM said. She said that you thought opportunism was scummy, which is what "as scum you are more likely to be opportunistic" means. That's literally what the word "scummy" means. Stop pretending like you don't know, you're an SE.
Nobody on earth claimed that someone is confirmed scum because they did one thing that was scummy.
This is what GM said:
goodmorning wrote:A. opportunism is not necessarily scummy.
Which is different from what you are interpreting for her and the difference is not just semantics, it's also why I wrote it like this (nice later accusation of misrep for quoting you GM, that has to be the first case of quote misrepping!)
So in other words your reads strengthened once people started to suspect you? That's not town mindset. That's OMGUS at best and a scum agenda at worst.
In other words my ass, what I said is that the more I'm convinced of my reads the more I'm going to actively push them given available time, in this case my reads strengthened during the reaction test and after my wagon started, but that has nothing to do with people suspecting me as you try to imply.
It's almost like I change my playstyle between games, because different games have different players and different approaches to playing. Not to mention I learn from my mistakes each game.
This is not a matter of play-stile (although yeah, your tone is also very different), as an IC in 1727 you showed understanding of play-stile vs alignment indicative tells in a lot of your commentary, Drealmerz's NL obstinacy, his quirks about joking at the wrong time and tending in general to the socially awkward are therefore things that you would be less likely to make a case on, so it makes that early case suspect.
This assumption makes no sense to me, further your professed town-read of GL doesn't fit well with your initial reaction to his case on Jae
What do you mean by this?
I think GL's case on Jae is shit - that doesn't mean I don't townread him.
I mean there is no valid reason for you to think that scum_GL would go for Jae over GM that I can think of, you saying so is likely a product of seeing what actually happened and rationalizing it, in any case I can't see you having a strong read on GL because of this and the explanation you gave which brings us to the next point.
You later don't even know who your top town-read is voting:
Why is this relevant?
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Because you are more likely to notice what your strongest town-read in the game is doing (so once again it makes the read you gave on GL more questionable) and because it and once again hints that a) that is not a true read and b) you are only superficially paying attention.
If that's the case it's likely you did so because GL is right about Jae and that's why he looks town to you
That would necessitate starting from the assumption that I'm scum.
You're pushing a case on me based on reasoning that's only valid if I'm scum, which boils down to Accountant is scum because X, X because Accountant is scum. And you're doing this, not because you think you can get away with circular logic, but because it looks linear to you - because you already know what conclusion you want to push when you created your case.[/quote]
This is pretty egregious, everything up to this point and everything that follows has nothing to do with you being scum per definition so again circular logic my ass, now here I am taking into consideration the case where you are actually scum and explaining the likeliest reason for your behavior, should it become relevant as I think it will.
Your only interest here is to hear my read, discredit it and move on
Of course. I want to know why you read me as scum. But once you gave a dumb reason for reading me as scum, all I needed to do was show town how wrong you were and move on to something that's more interesting.
Lol yeah sure, as if making sure that it's dumb because I am scum would not be relevant and interesting for town_Accountant.
