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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:40 am

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Votecount 2.2
Tiershift (2)
- Lycanfire, BlueBloodedToffee
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Lowell (1)
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BlueBloodedToffee (1)
- Umlaut
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- Tiershift, Lowell, ChaosOmega

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Deadline for Day 2 is Tuesday, September 9th at 9PM EST.

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That's a good point, actually.

Working on a reread of Carey and associations with Carey today, we'll see how that comes out.
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:06 am

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Meanwhile, though, does anyone really think Tier's vote on the Carey wagon on Day 1, at a point when Lowell was at L-1 and he had already stated that
In post 288, TierShift wrote:Also lowell has been a piece of trash

If you think that I just want a wagon on a lurker you are completely correct
and thus would have been completely blameless for being on the Lowell wagon, has any plausible scum motivation behind it? By doing this and then actively pushing people to hammer, as scum he would be hard-bussing his partner on D1 and committing to bluffing his way through three days alone, dodging suspicion, PoE, and an unknown collection of town PRs. This is not a strategically sound choice for scum.
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:59 am

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I'm not sure what you're talking about Umlaut?
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:30 am

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Okay, great albeit lucky catch for day 1.

I really do not understand people voting me as I lead a deadline flashwagon on scum, who was basically not scumread by anyone before. As umlaut is saying, scum powerbussing a buddy day 1 in an unknown setup with an unknown amount of clears any given day is akin to suicide. I am not the type of player who puts his fate in the hands of a lucky setup or the likes, and I feel BBT should knkw. If there is scum on the wagon, I think it's omega throwing up scum theater with carey but that seems not very likely.

More likely, scum is off the wagon as there was not enough reason for scum to bus yesterday, as umlaut indicated.

This means scum should be in BBT, pist and lowell.
I realised overnight that BBT is town despite his resistance to the carey wagon.

Gives me a nice PoE pool of 2.

Pist, why vote lowell?
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:32 am

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I cannot think of a worse nightkill btw
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:33 am

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In post 337, Lycanfire wrote:I'm inclined to believe that scum were on the wagon.
Why?
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:36 am

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Tier, you could easily have been bussing and not expected the Carey wagon to take off.

Lowell was already at L-2, so if anyone wanted to vote a lurker they could have chose Lowell. You openly admitted it was another lurker wagon which basically discredited your own vote and threw shade on your own wagon (hoping it wouldn't take off?). Scum!Tier would not have expected the Carey wagon to grow as it did and it would have been a safe distancing attempt for late-game had you pulled it off.

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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:37 am

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I did a joint carey pistache lowell ISO and was about to vote lowell when I saw this beauty
In post 323, pistachi0n wrote:Lowell would be my last choice--what an opportunistic wagon.
In post 335, pistachi0n wrote:VOTE: lowell
Explain yourself.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:38 am

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Oh let me reread quickly now
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:39 am

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I have something to say about the above but I want Pistachion to respond first.
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:49 am

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Okay, after lycan's stated support for a carey wagon in I could see that the carey wagon could actually be happening. Umlaut provided me with a safe opportunity to join a growing accountant wagon, which would have been a really easy vote to justify. I could also have joined accountant on lycan.

Furthermore, I also did provide sound reasons for a carey lynch, mainly the information it would deliver, and I stated it would deliver more information than a lowell lynch, which is undeniably true. Look at early day 1 positions on carey for proof. I was also in a position where I had multiple people following me and thinking I was town, namely umlaut and accountant.

Therefore, I had both good reasons to suspect my preferred lynch going through and safe opportunities to jump off and stopping an inflating bus wagon.

So no, i do not get at all how that could have been a failed distancing attempt.
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:53 am

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In post 356, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Also, why am I town?
If carey was your buddy and you would have known the rules you would have hammered him for towncred.

Had you not known the rules you would not have made it obvious you were around in and just hoped for dl to fall in time.

There are also definitely other reasons for you being town.
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:57 am

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UNVOTE:

OK, so Tier is town.
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:58 am

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Surprised it took you this long
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 8:42 am

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I'm voting Lowell mainly because of associatives, Carey's votes on Lowell strike me as he knew Lowell wasn't in much actual danger of being lynched at the times of the votes.
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 8:45 am

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VOTE: Lowell

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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 8:56 am

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Might hop on but I want lowell to speak or get replaced first
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 9:57 am

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BBT I am starting to have doubts about you now.
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:05 am

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Great.

Let's talk about them.
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:20 am

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The last half of your posts contained a few promises for further analysis/reasoning with no delivery. You don't seem as convicted as I'd expect you to be.
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:39 am

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They did?

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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:23 pm

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297, 359
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:30 pm

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UNVOTE: BlueBloodedToffee

On the fence between pist and Lowell and don't have time to think much about it right this second.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:16 pm

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In post 351, Ümläüt wrote:Meanwhile, though, does anyone really think Tier's vote on the Carey wagon on Day 1, at a point when Lowell was at L-1 and he had already stated that
In post 288, TierShift wrote:Also lowell has been a piece of trash

If you think that I just want a wagon on a lurker you are completely correct
and thus would have been completely blameless for being on the Lowell wagon, has any plausible scum motivation behind it? By doing this and then actively pushing people to hammer, as scum he would be hard-bussing his partner on D1 and committing to bluffing his way through three days alone, dodging suspicion, PoE, and an unknown collection of town PRs. This is not a strategically sound choice for scum.
Tbh I really wanted Accountant but I wanted to play chicken because I knew about the plurality lynch. By this point Accountant hadn't revoted and Carey was going to be lynched anyway, so I put my vote on Carey to see if anyone would flip out and pull their vote. Carey's partner could have put Tiershift to l-2 hoping nobody knew about plurality with Carey l-1 hammering it before deadline. This never happened.
In post 355, TierShift wrote:
In post 337, Lycanfire wrote:I'm inclined to believe that scum were on the wagon.
Why?
"Why Accountant?" turned into "why not me?". I can't come up with a good reason for Accountant, so I thought what would happen if I had been shot instead. I'd hope people wouldn't wait a week for Lowell to post and do some nka which would lead to "why Lycanfire". Why not someone else on the wagon? The thing is, with Accountant as NK we can't ask ourselves that, so I began to suspect scum on the wagon.
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:13 am

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I don't understand any of that last paragraph
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