Mini Normal 1827 - No Flavor Mafia (Game Over)

[Creature]

I don't like when someone acts like "everything can be faked", how would the game work? Stay in the shadows and wait someone make a flaw?

[BlackStar]

VOTE: Jordarrian

VOTE: Creature

Apparently I can't go to sleep after making 4 posts without being accused of being lazy and doing nothing.

The fact Io hasn't voted anyone isn't scummy.

VOTE: Io happy?
I couldn't really care much less about RVS. I participate if someone actually looks overtly scummy, but most times I just don't care to do it.

VOTE: Io

What.

Massive hasn't even posted and you scum read him?

Forget about you moving up in my books.

VOTE: Creature

This guy is hopping onto every wagon that gains traction

Kinda wanna lynch Naomi they're annoying

Yeah i do not like gimmick accounts in these games

they're prob town i agree, but their posting style annoys me. wouldn't mind a vig on them lol.

I don't like your gimmick and the way you post.

His first 10 posts are just him whining about how annoying Naomi is. He's not commenting on what's actually happening.

Killthestory, of the players who haven't posted yet, which is the scummiest? thanks

Why?

I have a day guilty on him...

can you confirm that you're being serious about this statement? BlackStar, what's your thoughts?

I don't like how Jordarrian responded to that wagon, but I'm definitely not putting someone at L-2 on page 4 because that would be irresponsible

care to offer anything else, pistachi0n?

posts like these don't sound genuine

He says this and then doesn't push at all or ask xyzzy any questions.

uh

naomi is my second best tr rn lol

And then there's a sudden town read on Naomi without any explanation. This stuff doesn't sit right with me and I think we should pressure Transcend

[xyzzy]

Alright hello guys! This is technically my first game because both my newbie games I replaced out. Killthestory knows me on another forum which I prefer to play mafia from, but I think we only played 1 game with each other.

If you guys would like links to see my games from there then let me know

VOTE: Jordarrian

Yo Transcend wagon this w/ me

this post right here makes me very suspicious regarding Transcend's wagon habits

[Io]

I don't like when someone acts like "everything can be faked", how would the game work? Stay in the shadows and wait someone make a flaw?

Well not to prove your point, but everything can be faked. The thing is that you really can't take everything at face value and say that every town slip must be from town and you can't be skeptical of every single thing posted. The point where the "everythign can be faked" comes in is when looking at a person as a whole through their ISO and interactions with others to reach a conclusion of "OK they are likely not to be faking this town slip because they've done this and that which x number of coincidences means it's more likely to not be scum faking a slip," or "OK they are likely to be faking this because of the way they approached it and this and that makes them look more consistently scummy even in smaller amounts so it probably is indeed scum faking it."

[Naomi-Tan]

I don't like when someone acts like "everything can be faked", how would the game work? Stay in the shadows and wait someone make a flaw?

Well not to prove your point, but everything can be faked. The thing is that you really can't take everything at face value and say that every town slip must be from town and you can't be skeptical of every single thing posted. The point where the "everythign can be faked" comes in is when looking at a person as a whole through their ISO and interactions with others to reach a conclusion of "OK they are likely not to be faking this town slip because they've done this and that which x number of coincidences means it's more likely to not be scum faking a slip," or "OK they are likely to be faking this because of the way they approached it and this and that makes them look more consistently scummy even in smaller amounts so it probably is indeed scum faking it."

This is also the view im coming from. I took so many posts and put them together not because one thing stood out but it was a slow slide of mounting things that piled up to make me think this way.

[Jordarrian]

Alright hello guys! This is technically my first game because both my newbie games I replaced out. Killthestory knows me on another forum which I prefer to play mafia from, but I think we only played 1 game with each other.

If you guys would like links to see my games from there then let me know

VOTE: Jordarrian

Yo Transcend wagon this w/ me

this post right here makes me very suspicious regarding Transcend's wagon habits

I feel it was just RVS going on

[pistachi0n]

So how do you expect town to post? Like gods?

Theoretically, yes. Realistically, no.
I mean it is a game so everyone should be playing towards their wincon and town usually sets the meta and mafia mimic the meta in theory.
But the problem with theory is that it doesn't apply in all cases as you have some people who play town differently than others and scum who play scum differently than others. When it comes to making posts someone's style of post is more often than not just going to be how they usually post no matter if they are scum or town, alignment comes into play when making reads and how they go about making accusations. Scum are at a disadvantage because they already know the players' alignments, outside of multiball, and that can show through when scum make reads as they have to pretend they don't already know a player is confirmed town.

i don't understand what is the point of this post...like what did you say that isn't textbook mafiascum wiki page material?

[Naomi-Tan]

That was a long enough awkward pause. The point of the post was to show how I was thinking trying to explain it to creature. I don't think it took an expert to explain that. It matters not if its textbook stuff Its just what needed to be said and your post make me pause in shock for a while.

[pistachi0n]

Wait, my post made you pause in shock?

[Naomi-Tan]

Wait, my post made you pause in shock?

the utter oblivious nature of it.

[Naomi-Tan]

Wait, my post made you pause in shock?

the utter oblivious nature of it.

This means it was NAI but just took me off balance like a swing I wasn't expecting, to use a fighting metaphor.

[Transcend]

Solid case

[Transcend]

Xyzzy is still mafia btw

[Io]

So how do you expect town to post? Like gods?

Theoretically, yes. Realistically, no.
I mean it is a game so everyone should be playing towards their wincon and town usually sets the meta and mafia mimic the meta in theory.
But the problem with theory is that it doesn't apply in all cases as you have some people who play town differently than others and scum who play scum differently than others. When it comes to making posts someone's style of post is more often than not just going to be how they usually post no matter if they are scum or town, alignment comes into play when making reads and how they go about making accusations. Scum are at a disadvantage because they already know the players' alignments, outside of multiball, and that can show through when scum make reads as they have to pretend they don't already know a player is confirmed town.

i don't understand what is the point of this post...like what did you say that isn't textbook mafiascum wiki page material?

Well that is the point. Creature seamed completely confused that people would even consider doing that.

[Transcend]

Kts tell me if 86 and 88 indicate that i thought she was scum.

[Killthestory]

sh

[Transcend]

Just don't like having my posts misinterpreted

[Naomi-Tan]

I looked it up, its NAI IMO. as if you was saying I don't care about my alignment I don't like them.

[Transcend]

hey

[light_ganski]

Did this thread breed while I was asleep or something

ATM readslist:

Town - KTS, Naomi, Transcend, Xyzzy,

maybe

Io, Pistachi0n
Scum - Creature, vedith
Dunno - jordarrian, blackstar

[light_ganski]

Gonna try and post in more detail soon but I'm super tired rn

[light_ganski]

@ Transcend why is xyzzy scum (other than 'posts don't seem genuine') because I just don't see it

[Transcend]

don't see much town motivation from her

[Creature]

Solid case

How?

I understand Naomi and Io are inexperienced and never played with me, but you are different.

[BlackStar]

Solid case

How?

I understand Naomi and Io are inexperienced and never played with me, but you are different.

He was talking to me. And I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic