Mini Normal 1827 - No Flavor Mafia (Game Over)

[Vedith]

Catch up tomorrow

[Transcend]

xyzzy imo

that's actually not a bad conclusion you have there creature

but then again you dropped massive which looks a bit inconsistent.

[Skelda]

i hinted at it, but there's no explicit reference. i'm saying you've played with me before, so don't mention ongoing games.

no, you're obviously using meta because i'm not even trying that hard. i'm barely doing shit, and you're saying "i'm trying too hard" when that's clearly in relation to other games.

I mean, I wasn't though. I thought you were trying to hard to do Townish things, not trying too hard to find scum.

[Transcend]

skelda's read sounds genuine but i don't agree with it.

skelda have you played with KTS before?

[Transcend]

just read the pista iso (since i'm lazy and it was only 5 posts).

they have a sr on blackstar.

i ponder if that one holds true still.

[Transcend]

oh and the reason i'm pondering is because i don't think blackstar is scum at all and i wanna see why she thinks blackstar is scum. wasn't sufficed with the initial reasoning she gave. also wanna know what she thinks of his case on me and his posts after her vote.

[xyzzy]

here's some notes from the first 4 pages. not sure whether I'll get through all of these tonight, or if I'll have to wait until tomorrow for some of them, but here's the first chunk anyway.

5 (Creature): an RVS OMGUS. probably irrelevant but I'm noting it just in case it feels relevant later.
6 (Killthestory): I get a slight town read from this post; I feel like these sorts of things involving making really broad, unlikely statements like this immediately come from town.
19 (Killthestory): I don't think this post would come from scum.
20 (BlackStar): these kinds of things where someone doesn't notice some aspect of the setup mentioned in the rules that is only directly relevant to scum generally feels town.
24 (Transcend): I'm generally not a huge fan of it when someone RVS votes when there's already discussion going, but I think overall it's a null tell on its own. if it's combined with very little other content later on, though, that's bad.
28 (Jordarrian): this is a good response to Creature's post 27.
29 (Killthestory): I'm okay with this post.
32-34: once any of Transcend, BlackStar, Creature or Jordarrian are dead, these 3 posts will be worth thinking about in more detail.
36 (Killthestory): I didn't read Jordarrian's response as defensive, and it's weird that you did.
48 (Naomi-Tan): Naomi-Tan, you imply that you make posts like this in a lot of games; would you mind linking to some examples from other games that you've played (both as town and scum)?
50 (Naomi-Tan): this post feels like it comes from town.
55 (Naomi-Tan): I definitely feel the same way as you describe in the first paragraph here a lot; I usually have much stronger town reads than scum reads.
56 (light_ganski): again, same. basically I tend to start questioning myself really hard starting around day 2
57 (Creature): I don't really like this post very much; Naomi-Tan's post wasn't as bad as Creature seems to imply no matter what you thought of it imo
60 (Vedith): remember what I said earlier about RVS votes when discussion has already started? same thing.
61 (light_ganski): I feel like trying to derail the conversation by making something mundane like acknowledging the fact that scum have daytalk is something scum could plausibly do.
62 (Vedith): nope.
65 (Vedith): not a fan of this.
67 (Vedith): another post I dislike from Vedith!
76 (Killthestory): I have a bad habit of interpreting these sorts of posts as scummy even though they're usually not.
81 (Io): in general I feel like trying to figure out the structure of the game at this point in time is really fruitless beyond just broad statements like "town's probably strong", so trying to figure out what's common doesn't seem like a good plan. also, the P-edit at the bottom is good.
86 (Transcend): I feel like all of Transcend's posts that I've commented on were things where I was like "that's a bit scummy" but I'd not really paid attention to the fact that all of them come from the same person. this is bad.
88 (Transcend): also in what sense does Naomi-Tan seem like a gimmick account? what gimmick does she have?
96 (BlackStar): this is an okay post.

overall I'm most likely to switch my vote over to Transcend at this point, but I'll re-read and comment in detail on the remaining 12 pages before I do anything.

[Transcend]

fake

[xyzzy]

what's fake?

[Killthestory]

i hinted at it, but there's no explicit reference. i'm saying you've played with me before, so don't mention ongoing games.

no, you're obviously using meta because i'm not even trying that hard. i'm barely doing shit, and you're saying "i'm trying too hard" when that's clearly in relation to other games.

I mean, I wasn't though. I thought you were trying to hard to do Townish things, not trying too hard to find scum.

and what's "townish things" because I honestly haven't even started trying to do shit.

[Transcend]

381

[Killthestory]

o shit this game has already reached 16 pages, will do ACTUAL shit tomorrow. I've only been memeing and tunneling Jord because it's funny lol.

[xyzzy]

381

yeah I felt like it was pretty obvious you were referring to the post I'd just made. which part of that post? are you saying you think literally 100% of it is fake?

[Transcend]

16 pages is nothing compared to some of the games i've been in recently

aka game starts fall asleep

THIRTY MOTHERFUCKING PAGES

[Transcend]

didn't read the post actually

but i really doubt that you went in depth about a bunch of useless shit that is the first 4 pages to benefit you as town.

[Naomi-Tan]

Hey guys, eat some bad food so don't really want to be chatting right now. just popping it to tell xyzzy that they can find all games I've been in within my Wiki page.

[xyzzy]

feel free to read either of the mini normals I have been in this year that have ended (1786, 1787)--I was town in both of those games, and I made multiple posts with that format throughout both games. I tend to go back and carefully re-read after some time has passed and take notes. the assertion that I wouldn't do that as town just doesn't hold water.

[Killthestory]

lol hey guys feel free to loo at my wiki for any games you might need

[Transcend]

no

[Killthestory]

hey hey why not dude?!?!

[xyzzy]

btw Transcend one of the bits in that post is a direct question to you about a post you made, so, uh

feel free to respond to that

[Transcend]

hey hey why not dude?!?!

it is strictly against my policy to reread previous games to develop reads on other players

I will read a part of a game if you directly quote it. but not the entire game.

[Killthestory]

dude just check MY WIKI to see my games omg !?!?

[Transcend]

oh i was talking to xyzzy

i'll check out your wiki

in fact i need to update my own to say soemthing besides "plays MS"

[xyzzy]

just for you, here's some links to some posts of mine from mini normal 1787 that demonstrate that posting that sort of analysis is consistent with my play style since returning to the site:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p7865422
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p7867428
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p7871087
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p7875887
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p7885478

it turns out my memory was mistaken and I didn't ever do any of those in 1786, but regardless, here's a bunch of posts that specifically demonstrate that that's a thing I do. you don't even need to read them--just scroll through them and confirm that I have, in fact, made posts like that one in games where I was town.