Mini 1802: Paint Mafia Sequel - Game Over!

[Thor665]

If colors can change and have no relevance to alignment - why does any of it matter?

[Thor665]

Like, let's say we could get mod confirmed color results on everyone right this second - would it solve the game?
If yes, why do you need to be flipped to learn about another color?
If no, why do you care about the other color?

[Sotty7]

Do you think all scum started red and all town started blue?

[Dwlee99]

thor read the setup >___>

[Dwlee99]

Like, let's say we could get mod confirmed color results on everyone right this second - would it solve the game?

Not completely, but it would be helpful.

[Dwlee99]

Then shouldn't you vote me?

Can you explain Sotty's self lynch plan?

Katsuki is confirmed scum

[Sotty7]

Wingback, Thor's slot, voted to flip himself and yet Thor is suspicious of me now for wanting to do the same.

I mean, try wrapping your head around that for one second.

[Thor665]

Do you think all scum started red and all town started blue?

Judging by the setup that is within the realm of possibility, and certainly within Ockham's for any given town/scum.

Then shouldn't you vote me?

Can you explain Sotty's self lynch plan?

Katsuki is confirmed scum

Then shouldn't you be voting them?
How are they confirmed scum?

Wingback, Thor's slot, voted to flip himself and yet Thor is suspicious of me now for wanting to do the same.

I mean, try wrapping your head around that for one second.

I feel like you're implying hypocrisy here, while not defending your stance, nor actually showing hypocrisy.
So...yeah, impressive. Whassup?

[Sotty7]

I defended my stance and you are being hypocritical. If you are town, the one town person you know did the same thing I did. You are making no sense and are still very much my top scum read despite the color flips.

I am currently not leading a quick lynch on Katsuki despite clearly having the votes for it because the info I have is not a full picture. I want Kastuki to come back and make some attempt to play the game and figure this out, because if he is town he has been setup to be the perfect mislynch.

[Sotty7]

How likely do we think it is that scum started as a different color? This is my first game in awhile, but from what I have read around the site meta has trended away from mafia godfathers and in a game like this scum starting as a different color would basically be that, a weaker version of one anyway.

Scum having the ability to flip town red AND starting a different color seems a little much looking at town powers in contrast.

[Dwlee99]

Then shouldn't you be voting them?
How are they confirmed scum?

I'm not ready for day to end??
And one sec

[Dwlee99]

[quote="In post 1964, Sotty7"]
Katsuki = RED
Dwlee = PURPLE
irainavp = WHITE
wingback =BLACK
Zulfy= RED
Sotty = ???
/quote]
Sotty claims to have been colored last night. There can only be 5 color changes in the game. This means out of the people we have colors for one has to be their true color. Zulfy is dead and flipped town, and the other 3 of us are a mix of colors. This means katsuki started the game red.

[Dwlee99]

wait shouldn't we have the colors of 6 people?

[Dwlee99]

nvm

[Thor665]

I defended my stance and you are being hypocritical. If you are town, the one town person you know did the same thing I did. You are making no sense and are still very much my top scum read despite the color flips.

Well...okay, let's dance this silly dance.

1. I never called what you did scummy. So, for starters, to call me hypocritical over it - the only evidence you've got is me saying the plan makes no sense.
2. I also asked you to explain your plan - again, no hypocrisy.
3. I see no hypocrisy in me thinking your plan makes no sense whether or not a former occupier of this slot decided to do the same plan or something similar.
4. If my slot wanted to flip your slot, that is different than your slot wanting to flip your slot per what I described as not making sense in your plan, which *AGAIN* shows no hypocrisy.

So basically you either don't understand what I've said, or are making stuff up, or don't know what hypocrisy means.

Want to explain your silly plan now?

I am currently not leading a quick lynch on Katsuki despite clearly having the votes for it because the info I have is not a full picture. I want Kastuki to come back and make some attempt to play the game and figure this out, because if he is town he has been setup to be the perfect mislynch.

As far as I can see there is no evidence to particularly support a Katsuki lynch beyond colors, which, according to you, are all crazy jumbled anyway.
Which makes that a dumb lynch.

[quote="In post 2061, Dwlee99"Sotty claims to have been colored last night. There can only be 5 color changes in the game. This means out of the people we have colors for one has to be their true color. Zulfy is dead and flipped town, and the other 3 of us are a mix of colors. This means katsuki started the game red.[/quote]
That doesn't prove Katsuki is scum, and would also require Sotty to be town to even begin that as a debate point.
Is he confirmed town?

[Dwlee99]

Yes it does.
It does prove katsuki started out as red.
And I don't think that sotty is fake claiming and kraska was pie's strongest town read AND they crumbed their role when they replaced in.

[Dwlee99]

Katsuki = RED
Dwlee = PURPLE
irainavp = WHITE
wingback =BLACK
Zulfy= RED
Sotty = ???
No one starts as not blue/red.
So that means that three of the nights scum colored someone are already gone
Katsuki = RED
Zulfy= RED
Sotty = ???
zulfy was town and he flipped red, so he had to have been painted
Katsuki = RED
Sotty = ???
So that is nights one - four that we know one of those four people are colored.
And sotty claims to have been colored last night so that means that katsuki is the one in the list who has NOT been colored, meaning they started out as red, ergo katsuki is scum.

[Thor665]

Okay, that still makes it an either or.

What is kraske being Pie's strongest town read doing to confirm Sotty?

[Thor665]

Sotty didn't claim till lylo, right?
If he claimed prior to lylo this is a different conversation though more one of 'what were you doing with your lynches?'.

[Dwlee99]

I AM TRUSTING PIE'S READ ON SOTTY

[Sotty7]

I don't really have a plan when it comes to today. I think my info points towards katsuki but I'm not ruling out shenanigans which is why I'm more keen on interacting with him more than anything else. If he is town he needs to come back in here and hammer this out. I want to look back at the action around the color flips to see if that gives us anything. Otherwise I'm waiting on kats to come back and for you to read the game and go from there.

[Sotty7]

Dwlee, - you don't think scum could have started a different color?

[Thor665]

I AM TRUSTING PIE'S READ ON SOTTY

Okay, so both of your confirmed reads are based on your personal value call of Pie's read as well as your mod theory.

Does Pie have a high quality of history in reading Sotty?

[Thor665]

@Sotty 0 how do you feel about Dwlee's read of you through Pie?

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee, - you don't think scum could have started a different color?

You're not understanding
Town would have had to start out as red for katsuki to be town. The other 3 people who have color flips were not blue and not red so they had to have been changed. This mean's katsuki STARTED THE GAME AS RED.
If katsuki was town who started the game as red she'd have claimed it at the start of the game.