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[Naomi-Tan]

and gimmick were annoying and I was okay policy lynching her for a bit. But then she dropped the gimmick. I hate third party gimmick accounts.[/quote]

Not doing anything scummy is easy, being towny isn't.

... are these not the same things?

[Naomi-Tan]

Black is town.

agree

Disagree. Though I'm not really able to back that up at this stage, probs do it at my next big review (page 20)

[Naomi-Tan]

Right now I could do Creature or Light, though going back and reading Light's ISO I think they are a bit more suspicious than Creature.
I don't see them as being TvT at the very least, and SvS is questionable so it looks like it would be TvS.

VOTE: Light
That post I mentioned earlier just doesn't quite sit right with me.

As for Vedith I don't know. I would need to look more at them.

what do you find suspicious about light? You say there more suspicious than creature but you don't exposit the reasons for this being so and what stands out to you. I would like a more detailed analysis of the situation.

[Creature]

and gimmick were annoying and I was okay policy lynching her for a bit. But then she dropped the gimmick. I hate third party gimmick accounts.

Not doing anything scummy is easy, being towny isn't.

... are these not the same things?[/quote]
Almost that, but you can avoid looking scum by staying in the shadows or pretending to be contributing, but actually posting like town would isn't easy to fake.

[Naomi-Tan]

Yh you guys all look town from this

There are scum in jordarrian vedith + creature. Maybe blackstar too

VOTE: Creature

lol that's self-explanatory

He's prob distancing Vedith here.

This doesn't follow; Light was scum reading Jord and Vedith from an ealier post than the quoted one and after me rb's and creds interactions he was updating his read list as we moved up to townie. this meant the people that posted was sorted in there minds by early interactions/posts. Quoted below is the other post.

Hmm jordarrian and naomi are null-scum leaning but it's too early to pin them down, naomi more for the subtle white knighting and buddying than for 48. Would say the same of vedith but I know from experience he's a scummy scumbag even as town but IGMEOY

PEDIT: I guess?? I have no idea what your saying here tbh I was asking what this gimmick thing is.. And I don't understand your answer.

[Naomi-Tan]

Town - KTS, Naomi, Transcend, Xyzzy, maybe Io, Pistachi0n
Scum - Creature, vedith
Dunno - jordarrian, blackstar

He tagged KTS, Naomi and Transcend as town because he wouldn't want to 1v1 then.

I wonder how he got to xyzzy and pistachi0n.

Sigh... You remember what I said about glass houses?

light_ganski
massive
Vedith
pistachi0n

Would easily wagon any of these

[Naomi-Tan]

381 This isn't a good post. Not from a read stand point just from a technical one as Now I'm going to need to open 50 tabs or so just to get to understand this post. Please stop using this format.

[Naomi-Tan]

Page 13 with the xyzzy "caught for the wrong reasons" post.

VOTE: xyzzy

Creature wagon looks suspect as heck since I see it right above me. It's like the list of players half-paying-attention. And Naomi. Come on Naomi.

Come on what? and is this post reading my vote post?

[Naomi-Tan]

Page 13 with the xyzzy "caught for the wrong reasons" post.

VOTE: xyzzy

Creature wagon looks suspect as heck since I see it right above me. It's like the list of players half-paying-attention. And Naomi. Come on Naomi.

im done for now. might tackle XYYZY's stuff later

[BlackStar]

You didn't really need to quote 20 posts like that. Just give a quick summary of your thoughts.

[Naomi-Tan]

I could of done what I did on page 10 with one big multi-quote, but I didn't as I wondered what would be easier to read so I thought I'd mix it up a little and get feed back.

[massive]

Page 13 with the xyzzy "caught for the wrong reasons" post.

VOTE: xyzzy

Creature wagon looks suspect as heck since I see it right above me. It's like the list of players half-paying-attention. And Naomi. Come on Naomi.

Come on what? and is this post reading my vote post?

Come on, Naomi, look at your co-wagoneers and realize that that's not company you want to be keeping.

[BlackStar]

VOTE: light

[Naomi-Tan]

xyzzy, - Null
light_ganski,- Slight town read
BlackStar - slight scum read
(towncred) - town read

Whats your point massive? I got only 1 of them as maybe scum and that could be distancing or sheeping..?

[BlackStar]

I know that you said you can't back up your scum read on me, but can you try?

[Naomi-Tan]

I know that you said you can't back up your scum read on me, but can you try?

I could but I like giving my full reads every 10 pages, on page 10 there is a small comment on it proper I could expand more but I like doing full reads in bulk so when I look at everyone back to back I can get a more 'true' feeling on the players as a whole to help me take things in better context. In other words. wait till page 20 :3

[Io]

xyzzy, - Null
light_ganski,- Slight town read
BlackStar - slight scum read
(towncred) - town read

Whats your point massive? I got only 1 of them as maybe scum and that could be distancing or sheeping..?

Baka.
Like fully disagree.
xyzzy is a little scummy, but not as much as Light and Black is Null to me.

[Naomi-Tan]

xyzzy, - Null
light_ganski,- Slight town read
BlackStar - slight scum read
(towncred) - town read

Whats your point massive? I got only 1 of them as maybe scum and that could be distancing or sheeping..?

Baka.
Like fully disagree.
xyzzy is a little scummy, but not as much as Light and Black is Null to me.

eh? why you find light back, if you don't mind me asking.

The Xyzzy null is because I really CBA to deal with that multi-post link chain as It takes me a while to load each webpage so that would of taken me hours to look over :/ I don't like to judge when I haven't put the effort in to fully read them. I guess I'll do that a little later.

[Io]

Like I said in 359 and 365 their comment just looked scummy and they were also early onto the Creature wagon with not a lot of reason.

[light_ganski]

VOTE: Light
That post I mentioned earlier just doesn't quite sit right with me.

Which post do you mean here? Because if it's 140 that was literally me saying I townread the three of KTS Naomi and Transcend based on the previous conversation?

[light_ganski]

Like that suggests you think I should be scumreading one of them, which in turn suggests you have information we as town don't have

[Naomi-Tan]

I think the area your talking about is not really a good area it was barely out of RVS and seems totally irrelevant to the current environment. I think thats where we differ as I see that as just an innocent comment and not scummy and the creature train didn't exist when they voted them.

PEDIT; Light post more about stuff.

[light_ganski]

I think the area your talking about is not really a good area it was barely out of RVS and seems totally irrelevant to the current environment. I think thats where we differ as I see that as just an innocent comment and not scummy and the creature train didn't exist when they voted them.

Io's reaction to 140 doesn't look at all innocent to me?

How does one construe "Yh you guys are all town" with "I can't get any scum reads", especially as I said who I thought might be scum in that exact post?

[light_ganski]

Some creature analysis:

The first point is when he accuses Naomi of white knighting (which sufficiently confused me into think she had done so ). Reading back whilst there was little point in Naomi bringing up the point (50) for which she was accused of it I don't understand why creature felt the need to call her out on it other than that at the time she looked a little suspicious (at least to me) and he could've been laying groundwork for a scum read of Naomi (considering as scum he would have already known her to be innocent)

141 was basically an early pressure vote, see how creature reacts.

143 - Creature reacts with... wifom? At least that's what that argument looks like to me

150, 153 - This reads like 'I can't be scum I was awkward' which feels weird because at least to me the start of games are a bit awkward as both alignments. Scum want to look less awkward but so do town. Not sure if this counts as IIoA

181 why include yourself in your own readslist? Not scummy but definitely odd

210 why quicklynch people who are MIA before they get the chance to post? Denies town of information that they would get from, you know, not quicklynching? Feels like scum 'I know they're town and will be easy lynchees'

[Io]

I think the area your talking about is not really a good area it was barely out of RVS and seems totally irrelevant to the current environment. I think thats where we differ as I see that as just an innocent comment and not scummy and the creature train didn't exist when they voted them.

Io's reaction to 140 doesn't look at all innocent to me?

How does one construe "Yh you guys are all town" with "I can't get any scum reads", especially as I said who I thought might be scum in that exact post?

The read just looks more like the "everyone looks town but if I had to make a read they would be these people" which doesn't seam genuine.