Mini 1802: Paint Mafia Sequel - Game Over!

[Dwlee99]

I AM TRUSTING PIE'S READ ON SOTTY

Okay, so both of your confirmed reads are based on your personal value call of Pie's read as well as your mod theory.

Does Pie have a high quality of history in reading Sotty?

you're scum omg

[Thor665]

That's actually the point of his question - by what evidence do you presume town are auto start blue and scum auto start red?

[Thor665]

ii) Each player is assigned a colour. The standard colour for town is blue. The standard colour for groupscum is red.

Because this is all I see - and it doesn't say that.

[Dwlee99]

If katsuki was town who started the game as red she'd have claimed it at the start of the game.

thor is scum holy fuck

[Dwlee99]

Oh hey I flipped red! XD

THIS IS KATSUKI BEING SURPRISED AT FLIPPING RED!!!!
THIS MEANS SHE IS SCUM BECAUSE WE KNOW SHE STARTED THE GAME AS RED

[Dwlee99]

town!thor doesn't come into the game and just ask a bunch of dumb questions

[Sotty7]

Yeah Thor needs to read the game at this point.

I'm fine with Dwlee's read of me because he is pinging pretty town.

[Sotty7]

Oh hey I flipped red! XD

THIS IS KATSUKI BEING SURPRISED AT FLIPPING RED!!!!
THIS MEANS SHE IS SCUM BECAUSE WE KNOW SHE STARTED THE GAME AS RED

My point was hyposcum team starts with two red goons and one "other" color
That means are enough nights to flip katsuki red and have everyone else be flipped or not as the case maybe.

Feels like a reach typing it out but its possible, hence my question about scum team color.

[Dwlee99]

I don't think that scum would have a godfather that wasn't blue.

[Thor665]

town!thor doesn't come into the game and just ask a bunch of dumb questions

What the hell are you even smoking?

[Dwlee99]

town!thor doesn't come into the game and just ask a bunch of dumb questions

What the hell are you even smoking?

I dont do drugs

[iraonavp]

Sotty7 is confirmed as town-aligned, because kraska accidentally claimed PR when she replaced in, and the way she did it also makes perfect sense with Sotty7's claim:

Hey guys
I only read like 3 pages so far
But umm...i have reason(related to my role) to believe that mafia can change colors in this game
Is there an explanation for this or...?

[iraonavp]

Dwlee, how is Thor665's response scum-aligned?

Do you actually think he's trying to save Katsuki? It seems like you are turning null-aligned things into "confirmed as scum-aligned", Thor665 is just trying to understand the game even if he is scum-aligned.

I anticipate having to choose between you and Thor665 tomorrow, so please do not yell at me and spam...

[Dwlee99]

Name me one contribution to the thread thor as done? None
He has sat here and asked meaningless questions ever sine he replaced in so he can look busy. It is a joke

[Dwlee99]

Do you think all scum started red and all town started blue?

Judging by the setup that is within the realm of possibility, and certainly within Ockham's for any given town/scum.

That's actually the point of his question - by what evidence do you presume town are auto start blue and scum auto start red?

This stood out
but think about:
his weird reluctance to claim, insisting he found the massclaim first
his complete lack of anything of content
posting dumb questions
obvscum

[Thor665]

town!thor doesn't come into the game and just ask a bunch of dumb questions

What the hell are you even smoking?

I dont do drugs

Then why are you saying insane things?
Like - do you have any evidence that this is not how town Thor replaces into games?
Because I have my own opinion of how I replace in, but I'd like to see you back up yours.

Sotty7 is confirmed as town-aligned, because kraska accidentally claimed PR when she replaced in, and the way she did it also makes perfect sense with Sotty7's claim:

Hey guys
I only read like 3 pages so far
But umm...i have reason(related to my role) to believe that mafia can change colors in this game
Is there an explanation for this or...?

That is thin, but I can see some logic there.

Is there any evidence that scum can't change their color to blue?
And why would scum change any color to anything other than blue or red?

Name me one contribution to the thread thor as done? None
He has sat here and asked meaningless questions ever sine he replaced in so he can look busy. It is a joke

Well...I have only been in the game about 24 hours.
During that time my posting has been as functional as yours - I've asked "meaningless" questions and you've made "meaningless" accusations with no actual logic backup (and, apparently have been quite honked off that I'm questioning the status quo).

I'm not sure why you think that confirms me as scum, but you do seem very aggressive on your reads for someone not placing a vote.
So why are you lying to me about how strongly you believe what you're spewing?

[Sotty7]

Who are your scum reads Thor?

[Thor665]

I don't have any hard ones yet or I'd be voting them. I also haven't had a chance to interact with Katsuki yet.

I will admit that Dwlee is pinging me for the stuff I mentioned. He is expounding to the point of claiming the game is solved, based off hard line reads that he can't support, and evidenced with a bombast of language paired with a lack of placing votes. That does not sit well with me as a theory town mentality. If he believed what he was saying, he should be voting, and if he didn't believe what he was saying, then he shouldn't be acting like failure to see the self evident is a scumtell. If Day ended in thirty seconds and I was given a Day vig, he would die.

He seems to lack a clear partner yet, because he is clear hard buddying you (theory town, though I'm wondering about the color flips as relate to your role) but Ira isn't gelling with him as a partner, and is actually donking on him a touch (suggests theory town but I'm a little neutral on how he also calls you confirmed off a slim hunch). Kat is the mystery, but seems the logical theory partner, which would justify the hardcore statements of belief in the case, and also the lack of willing to vote over it paired with trying to hard set me up as the lynch for tomorrow.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around you though, because you are functionally doing a 1 v 1 in a lylo situation while being called confirmed town, which is a classically tailor made scum play, but I'm trying to sort your aversion to the hard line and whether I town or scum vibe that.

I also have the mystery of the color choices, which seems like scum was smoking something to me.

[Dwlee99]

Is there any evidence that scum can't change their color to blue?
And why would scum change any color to anything other than blue or red?

THOR
LOOK AT THE COLOR FLIPS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW
NONE OF THEM ARE BLUE
THIS POST IS MEANINGLESS!!!!

[Dwlee99]

Thor is calling me scum for not voting him yet in

lylo

when we have near confscum in katsuki >_>

[Dwlee99]

Thor reads are also diametrically opposed to mine zzz

[Thor665]

Is there any evidence that scum can't change their color to blue?
And why would scum change any color to anything other than blue or red?

THOR
LOOK AT THE COLOR FLIPS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW
NONE OF THEM ARE BLUE
THIS POST IS MEANINGLESS!!!!

I understand that none of the color flips, outside of Katsuki, are blue or red.
What I'm wondering is the why of that situation.
So read my post again till the rather simple question comes to mind.

Like, say I'm scum and you're town - why would I want to change your color to purple, as opposed to changing it to red?

Thor is calling me scum for not voting him yet in

lylo

when we have near confscum in katsuki >_>

Actually I'm calling you scum for not voting Katsuki.

[Thor665]

Though apparently now that I've pointed out the issue with your reality Katsuki is now "near" confscum.
Funny how that shift happened.
#notfunny.

[Thor665]

The smart scum play would have been to change as many players to red as possible to make the endgame be all red.
Or all blue, either way - the goal would be to take the most expeidient path to make the color flip info meaningless which would be the red path, but let's presume scum are dumb.
There is zero value in changing a town player to purple, black, white, or fuscia if the only end goal of those colors is to confuse.

Unless scum can't change colors from blue to red and vice versa - which the flip info does not appear to support.
Which is making me wonder if they got caught out with the purple, causing a shift in optimal play choice.
Timing wise that appears to make sense with the single red flip from a town and no blue scum flips.

Insert your next rant below.

[Dwlee99]

I'm only saying near confscum because I'm freeing myself from all guilt if somehow there is a godfather

not

colored blue or somehow sotty is scum.