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[Dwlee99]

shouldn't xk go last considering there is a claimed inno on him?

[texcat]

I'm back. I misread this morning on that small screen and thought that Vedith had CC'd Sonia.
So we have
Dwlee 1-shot BP
Texcat vig
Sonia non-consecutive cop
Tiershift VT
Blackstar VT
XK? claimed innocent by Sonia
Mimi?

Have I got it?

[texcat]

So what are the chances of a Godfather? Is there such a thing (a Normal thing) as BP scum? None of Gerry, Algebra, and me had x-shot powers. That's one of the reasons I didn't believe Trans fake claim. Nor were our powers non-consecutive. I'm skeptical of the claim, but I'm not sure it makes sense to vote there. We could always no-lynch today.

I'm pretty sure that scum has a roleblocker -- since they let Algebra live one night. And they can block and kill me tonight. Unless Sonia's telling the truth, then they would block me and kill her. I'm certainly willing to listen to opinions on what I should do tonight.

[Dwlee99]

Godfathers aren't normal.

[Vedith]

During Transcend's fake claim fiasco, everyone was convinced he was scum. The only two who defended him were Dwlee and Vedith. Those two are the only two who I am even considering voting today.

I didn't defend him I was questioning him, what are you even talking about?

[Vedith]

Why are you not on vedith instead

Same reason she didn't check me or Dwlee... She's scum.

[TierShift]

Mimi claimed vt in 2193 which is why indeed xf goes last but he needs to claim.

Vedith it's cool that you want to lynch the cop today but as we need to lynch scum both today and tomorrow we had better flip the lynch order so IF sonia is a cop she gets a chance of a result. Nothing to lose, a lot to gain.

Please tell me you understand this.
'sonia is scum so she is not a cop so it doesn't matter' is not a valid response and shows you do not understand what i just said. If you want to lynch sonia today, you will have to show me what we have to gain by lynching her today instead of tomorrow.

[TierShift]

texcat

who did you target day 1?

[Vedith]

Mimi claimed vt in 2193 which is why indeed xf goes last but he needs to claim.

Vedith it's cool that you want to lynch the cop today but as we need to lynch scum both today and tomorrow we had better flip the lynch order so IF sonia is a cop she gets a chance of a result. Nothing to lose, a lot to gain.

Please tell me you understand this.
'sonia is scum so she is not a cop so it doesn't matter' is not a valid response and shows you do not understand what i just said. If you want to lynch sonia today, you will have to show me what we have to gain by lynching her today instead of tomorrow.

Difference is, this is MyLo.
You are suggesting to lynch possibly a chance of someone else being scum rather than scum which is 100% (unless you're a moron, of course).

[TierShift]

For me it's lynch dwlee vig vedith lynch sonia tomorrow if scum lynch xkfyu if not something like mimi but I need to check to see if I'm giving blackstar a free pass.

The promised VCA IS still very much on.

whether or not texcat is a SK his wincon necessitates him to lynch scum, especially if they have a roleblocker. So he can be regarded as town for the coming 2 days.

[TierShift]

Difference is, this is MyLo.
You are suggesting to lynch possibly a chance of someone else being scum rather than scum which is 100% (unless you're a moron, of course).

Yeah except your scum hunting skill is not 100%

Think of all the times you were 100% sure someone was scum. I'd be surprised if your accuracy there gets above 70%. I'm happily accepting the 30% chance sonia is a cop.
For me, this chance is even bigger. But even you should realise your scum hunting is far from perfect.

So yeah, just assume sonia is scum and work the associations from there.

[Vedith]

For me it's lynch dwlee vig vedith

If Dwlee is town, which I highly suspect, then that would be game over.

[Vedith]

Yeah except your scum hunting skill is not 100%

Think of all the times you were 100% sure someone was scum. I'd be surprised if your accuracy there gets above 70%. I'm happily accepting the 30% chance sonia is a cop.
For me, this chance is even bigger. But even you should realise your scum hunting is far from perfect.

So yeah, just assume sonia is scum and work the associations from there.

Coming from the guy saying "lynch the claimed BP"

[TierShift]

But letting the bp live another night does not bring town anything

Letting the cop live would.

[Vedith]

But letting the bp live another night does not bring town anything

Letting the cop live would.

So why not have the cop check the claimed BP? Boy, you're a smart one!

[TierShift]

I'm thinking dwlee should be investigated by sonia which means lynch vedith and vig one of myself/mimi/blackstar of which I prefer someone that is not me but whatever.

Sonia absolutely needs to be tomorrow's lynch. That gives us confirmed inno(s) or guilties.

I'm just working off the assumption that tex is actually 3rd party because otherwise this game is as good as lost.

P-edit yeah I realised that

[Vedith]

lynch vedith and vig one of myself/mimi/blackstar

If you're actually town, you are suggesting to be vigged on MyLo?
You really are stupid, aren't you?

[Dwlee99]

There's prooooobably a roleblocker so we can't exactly afford to mislynch today.

[TierShift]

Nah it's not mylo I think

Sk will shoot scum
I'm just working from the assumption we have a SK because fighting 3 scum with a RB is a lost cause.

I'm saying I should objectively be in the vig pool as I belong with mimi and blackstar within the VT claim group. I don't want to be vigged but I think black and mimi are town so whatever.

[TierShift]

Everyone just needs to stop assuming 3 scum because we can simply not feasibly win such a game anymore

So please just assume 2 scum

[Vedith]

Nah it's not mylo I think

Sk will shoot scum
I'm just working from the assumption we have a SK because fighting 3 scum with a RB is a lost cause.

I'm saying I should objectively be in the vig pool as I belong with mimi and blackstar within the VT claim group. I don't want to be vigged but I think black and mimi are town so whatever.

If you think they are town, and regardless of your align will say you are town, then why would you ask to be vigged?
And to confirm, you believe there is 2 scum, 1 SK and rest town 1 being a vig, correct?

[Vedith]

Everyone just needs to stop assuming 3 scum because we can simply not feasibly win such a game anymore

So please just assume 2 scum

No, we should assume it's 3, because if it is it's MyLo.
Regardless how much you want to be right here, planning for only 2 scum if stupid.

[TierShift]

If 3 scum, sonia is definitely town, btw. No way tracker/doc/vig/1-shot bp is balanced against a scum RB

P-edit no I believe tex is SK

[Vedith]

If 3 scum, sonia is definitely town, btw. No way tracker/doc/vig/1-shot bp is balanced against a scum RB

P-edit no I believe tex is SK

Wait, how do we know they have a RB?
Did I miss a post?

[TierShift]

Yeah I assumed that based on the lowell kill but it's actually not a given. Very likely thought considering the fact lowell was a pretty likely doc target.

I really need to have texcats day 1 target to update my thought process.