Mini 1820 — Lazy Summer Mafia (Game Over)

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2350 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:53 am

I should probably meta vedith.

Still not convinced a PR has to be scum because docs ccing helps put scum.

MariaR · Post Post #2351 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:58 am

no omg

I think Infinity was planning on claiming a dif role (NOT SCUM DOC LIKE HE REALLY IS) that visited Infinity but he can't tell us what that is so he had to claim doc

Raskolnikov · Post Post #2352 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:58 am

In post 2346, Infinity 324 wrote:Hmm true.

He just doesn't seem to have much of a plan, scum usually do this late in the game. I feel like he's trying to figure stuff out.

Maybe he could easily fake this idk

How about that kraska/LQ interaction tho

NAI for vedith I think. I was in 1812 and he screwed up lategame there by being scum-careless, but I see it from him as town too. I think he's always "loose".

Going over I think the interaction is actually reasonable, kraska's first post was at that point in the game and she replaced in so it's not nearly as strong as it would be in another situation.
If kraska was there before that point or at game start I think it would be different because you would assume they'd have talked already, but in this case I can actually see it happening semi organically.

MariaR · Post Post #2353 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:59 am

In post 2347, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2344, MariaR wrote:I never said you were scared of tracker you claimed AFTER I outted my report on you.

I think the biggest problem atm is everyone's sr's are all over the place.
Why would I target vedith in the first lace instead of protecting a buddy unless I was scared of tracker?

your buddy was LQ someone a lot of people TR I don't think you would be that worried about him getting vig shot over others like hip/slandaar

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2354 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:00 am

In post 2351, MariaR wrote:no omg

I think Infinity was planning on claiming a dif role (NOT SCUM DOC LIKE HE REALLY IS) that visited Infinity but he can't tell us what that is so he had to claim doc

What role??

MariaR · Post Post #2355 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:01 am

In post 2354, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2351, MariaR wrote:no omg

I think Infinity was planning on claiming a dif role (NOT SCUM DOC LIKE HE REALLY IS) that visited Infinity but he can't tell us what that is so he had to claim doc
What role??

I haven't got that far yet ;-;

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2356 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:01 am

In post 2353, MariaR wrote:
In post 2347, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2344, MariaR wrote:I never said you were scared of tracker you claimed AFTER I outted my report on you.

I think the biggest problem atm is everyone's sr's are all over the place.
Why would I target vedith in the first lace instead of protecting a buddy unless I was scared of tracker?
your buddy was LQ someone a lot of people TR I don't think you would be that worried about him getting vig shot over others like hip/slandaar

Ok, couldn't I just no action, which increases my options for a fakeclaim of I'm tracked?

MariaR · Post Post #2357 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:03 am

In post 2356, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2353, MariaR wrote:
In post 2347, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2344, MariaR wrote:I never said you were scared of tracker you claimed AFTER I outted my report on you.

I think the biggest problem atm is everyone's sr's are all over the place.
Why would I target vedith in the first lace instead of protecting a buddy unless I was scared of tracker?
your buddy was LQ someone a lot of people TR I don't think you would be that worried about him getting vig shot over others like hip/slandaar
Ok, couldn't I just no action, which increases my options for a fakeclaim of I'm tracked?

What PR are you gonna claim that no visits?

Raskolnikov · Post Post #2358 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:04 am

Going nothing would force you into VT claim though, and in that situation you want 1 of each PR/VT fakeclaim.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2359 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:04 am

In post 2352, Raskolnikov wrote:
In post 2346, Infinity 324 wrote:Hmm true.

He just doesn't seem to have much of a plan, scum usually do this late in the game. I feel like he's trying to figure stuff out.

Maybe he could easily fake this idk

How about that kraska/LQ interaction tho
NAI for vedith I think. I was in 1812 and he screwed up lategame there by being scum-careless, but I see it from him as town too. I think he's always "loose".

Going over I think the interaction is actually reasonable, kraska's first post was at that point in the game and she replaced in so it's not nearly as strong as it would be in another situation.
If kraska was there before that point or at game start I think it would be different because you would assume they'd have talked already, but in this case I can actually see it happening semi organically.

Ugh maybe you're right

Gotta look over quolls again.

I actually think the docs are almost negative utility I this setup though. That makes a watcher make sense imo.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2360 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:05 am

In post 2357, MariaR wrote:
In post 2356, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2353, MariaR wrote:
In post 2347, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2344, MariaR wrote:I never said you were scared of tracker you claimed AFTER I outted my report on you.

I think the biggest problem atm is everyone's sr's are all over the place.
Why would I target vedith in the first lace instead of protecting a buddy unless I was scared of tracker?
your buddy was LQ someone a lot of people TR I don't think you would be that worried about him getting vig shot over others like hip/slandaar
Ok, couldn't I just no action, which increases my options for a fakeclaim of I'm tracked?
What PR are you gonna claim that no visits?

Roleblocked

MariaR · Post Post #2361 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:05 am

In post 2360, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2357, MariaR wrote:
In post 2356, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2353, MariaR wrote:
In post 2347, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2344, MariaR wrote:I never said you were scared of tracker you claimed AFTER I outted my report on you.

I think the biggest problem atm is everyone's sr's are all over the place.
Why would I target vedith in the first lace instead of protecting a buddy unless I was scared of tracker?
your buddy was LQ someone a lot of people TR I don't think you would be that worried about him getting vig shot over others like hip/slandaar
Ok, couldn't I just no action, which increases my options for a fakeclaim of I'm tracked?
What PR are you gonna claim that no visits?
Roleblocked

I doubt anyone would buy that

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2362 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:06 am

Roleblocker makes a lot of sense in this setup actually

MariaR · Post Post #2363 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:08 am

Why give mafia a RBer instead of another PR

(don't say town is getting the RBer cause that's just not happening)

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2364 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:10 am

What other PR would be useful for mafia? Tracker/watcher/voyeur/follower are basically fruit vendors.

Also I could've claimed JK

idk

Vedith · Post Post #2365 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:11 am

Scum Roleblocker would fit in well with this setup.
If Infinity said he was Roleblocker I'd believe it

Raskolnikov · Post Post #2366 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:11 am

Voyeur/watcher synergy is pretty good.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2367 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:14 am

In post 2366, Raskolnikov wrote:Voyeur/watcher synergy is pretty good.

So someone can fakeclaim rolecop? lol

MariaR · Post Post #2368 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:14 am

I feel like given his stance in the game that would have been really risky

as in he wasn't a massive TR enough to get RB'd like I'd say other people were good targets I think this is honestly grasping at straws at this point the main argument is "why would I claim doc" when that's just a wifom answer and it fits very well in this set up I'll keep going if you want but you're not really changing my mind

Raskolnikov · Post Post #2369 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:14 am

Uhm. I already explicitly asked vedith if he got a result or not exactly because I was ruling roleblocker out. Scum vedith can't lie (because that ends up in 1v1 with infinity) and town vedith probably wouldn't lie either.
and infinity was tracked going to vedith. infinity isn't roleblocker, if hes scum he's scumdoc.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2370 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:17 am

In post 2369, Raskolnikov wrote:Uhm. I already explicitly asked vedith if he got a result or not exactly because I was ruling roleblocker out. Scum vedith can't lie (because that ends up in 1v1 with infinity) and town vedith probably wouldn't lie either.
and infinity was tracked going to vedith. infinity isn't roleblocker, if hes scum he's scumdoc.

We're talking about scum roleblocker in the context of me claiming roleblocked being believable, I think

MariaR · Post Post #2371 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:19 am

Tldr: I think with my tracker report on Infinity he was forced to claim the role he really was (being scum doctor) instead of fake claiming a dif role and his whole defense is "why would I claim doc!"

Infinity 324 · Post Post #2372 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:31 am

My question is why would I visit vedith in the first place. This is starting to get circular...

Vedith · Post Post #2373 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:34 am

In post 2317, Raskolnikov wrote:I accept 1v1 with vedith.

Is this still up for offer?

Raskolnikov · Post Post #2374 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:53 am

did you miss the vote?