Mini Normal 1827 - No Flavor Mafia (Game Over)

[Naomi-Tan]

I still think they are town... which is why im not going L-1.. Jeez.. Can everyone on the XYZZY train write when they think there scum in a block to try and convince me ? I'd like to know full reasoning..

[massive]

Jeezus, Naomi, you start out the game telling us that how you play is not indicative of you being scum or town, and then town read xyzzy because their gameplay is similar to yours. We realize you are doing this and that it's a huge towntell on your part, but seriously, follow your own advice.

[Naomi-Tan]

I town read them because I can follow there thought pattern and don't really understand why XYZZY's train is a good one.

[massive]

I town read them because I can follow there thought pattern and don't really understand why XYZZY's train is a good one.

I just went back and started reading 510 (I did make it a LITTLE further) and I can't imagine that that is true, because 510 is about six posts of xyzzy's that you understand and then a ton you either don't understand or straight-up disagree with. You want to point me to where you starting following their thought pattern?

[Naomi-Tan]

The top half of 510 and the follow up big post sorted out a bunch of my original issues.

[Naomi-Tan]

I town read them because I can follow there thought pattern and don't really understand why XYZZY's train is a good one.

I just went back and started reading 510 (I did make it a LITTLE further) and I can't imagine that that is true, because 510 is about six posts of xyzzy's that you understand and then a ton you either don't understand or straight-up disagree with. You want to point me to where you starting following their thought pattern?

like by the end of 510 I felt that they was town enough to not have them as my biggest scum read, then after the next post I was happy :3

[Creature]

We had this game pretty much locked, but then everybody went like:
"Let's lynch X!"
"Nah, X is town! Let's lynch Y!"
"Y is town! And so is X! Let's lynch Z!"
"Wow you're so bad!"

[Creature]

Is there any way we can agree on a lynch?

[Creature]

xyzzy was last online today morning, isn't this enough to be a scumclaim?

[Blitzkrieg]

We can lynch Seraphim.

Stop being so hyper to lynch town.

[Creature]

I thought about forcing both to claim.

[Skelda]

I'd vote xxyzy over Seraphom but I don't have a strong opinion either way. We just need to lynch someone.

I do think there is value in claiming though.

[Skelda]

Is there any way we can agree on a lynch?

I mean someone is at L-1 and we're waiting for a claim, so yeah.

[Blitzkrieg]

These last posts are eww by Skelda. If I wasn't convinced BlackStar was scum, these would be setting up red flags that you are Seraphim's partner.

[BlackStar]

Is there any way we can agree on a lynch?

I think x being at L-1 is a sign that we're mostly in agreement

[Blitzkrieg]

Yeah, no. It's a sign that the wagon stalled. Sera was at or near L minus 1 too but yet no one has given a reason for X being scum while I tied Seraphim to Light. X is a pretty clear counter.

[BlackStar]

Yeah, no. It's a sign that the wagon stalled. Sera was at or near L minus 1 too but yet no one has given a reason for X being scum while I tied Seraphim to Light. X is a pretty clear counter.

I gave like 5 different reasons for why x is scummy, so stop making things up.

[Transcend]

I hate to be that guy but just hammer her lol

[Blitzkrieg]

Yeah, no. It's a sign that the wagon stalled. Sera was at or near L minus 1 too but yet no one has given a reason for X being scum while I tied Seraphim to Light. X is a pretty clear counter.

I gave like 5 different reasons for why x is scummy, so stop making things up.

Great. Show me where.

[xyzzy]

I'm a townie, so I suppose standard "at worst we lose a townie" apply here.

[Creature]

So should we hammer or force Seraphim to claim too?

[BlackStar]

What would be the motivation for a scum vig to shoot his scum buddy that was at L-1? It would make much more sense to just vote on the wagon or tell him to claim a pr or something. Wagon form and fall apart quickly on day 1, so it was likely that if I hadn't shot light then he wouldn't have even gotten lynched. No matter how often you say it, Verith is not "obv town". He's null at best and that's being a little generous. Why do you even townread xyzzy? I'm not voting sera right now because you've been illogical throughout the game so far and I don't want to follow someone like that. Yeah, jord was scummy. But sera has been decent. I don't know what to make of him so far. But xyzzy's posts are really awkward and light had them as high up on his reads list without saying why. I think it's better to go after xyzzy

Blitz, reply to this please

1) Towncred

you'd still get towncred from being on the wagon. Why would you waste a big shot instead of voting? Also, it's effing impossible to have a scum day vig in a normal game!

2) Vedith is obvious town. Sorry. No matter how much shade you both throw, he has conflict with all scum so...

youre the only one who sees him as obv town, so he's clearly not obv town

3) Because you're pushing him, he's solving the game and you two are desperately deflecting onto anyone scumhunting that is not you. You're attempting to have me prove everyone else town to avoid your terrible association with Light. Then, you just pick the weakest town case and argue it's not enough. Not playing that game.

hes not solving the game, almost all of his posts are worded awkwardly, light had him high on his reads list and never said why, he barely posts and he started sheeping you as soon as the wagon on him formed. It's extremely likely that he's scum. I don't have an association with light and you need to stop don't biasing.

4) Here's the mysterious "illogical" insult rather that responding to the case on Sera. The fact I believe you are scum is not a tenet in my case on Sera. You saw they slipped and voted ten. Now that there's another wagon, suddenly I am illogical.

its not mysterious or sudden. You've been illogical ever since the vig shot. The normal reaction to someone shooting scum isn't "you must be scum too!" And it's not logical to become 100% convinced of a bs read like this even though it goes against the guidelines of a normal game. You really need to take a step back and look at what you've been doing.

5) It's not better to go after town while you insult me for going after scum. It's the only move you have left as I am not Looney tunes sounding if scum can have a dayvig.

you're going after town

Look at part 3

[Transcend]

oh just realized i wasn't voting

VOTE: xyzzy

hammer'd

have a good night err1.

[BlackStar]

[xyzzy]

V is probably town too. I'd explain why but i think it brands the rules.

VOTE: xyzzy

uh, yeah you were? you haven't included since this post, and the most recent vote count has you voting me.