Mini Normal 1829 - Game Over

[Nero Cain]

kraska also feels like a mislynch

how so?

[MariaR]

Kraska isn't scum. I would like a vote in Elyse/Sable to be honest

[Transcend]

you're currently voting a mason lol

[Transcend]

kraska also feels like a mislynch

how so?

tone seems towny. questions she asks seem genuine and not scum motivated blablabla.

[MariaR]

I hardclaim mason if that's what you're asking of me

[Blitzkrieg]

you're currently voting a mason lol

Yeah, then why so weasely when put to the task to confirm or deny it? You reply that you are not neighbors. You're never going to revoke? That's what it will take to get me to unvote Maria.

[Nero Cain]

kraska also feels like a mislynch

how so?

tone seems towny. questions she asks seem genuine and not scum motivated blablabla.

Can you post which questions seem towny?

[Transcend]

we're masons

[Blitzkrieg]

we're masons

Never revoking..say it.

[Transcend]

it

[MariaR]

it

You know what he means! :p

[kraska77]

lol

[kraska77]

oh crap y do mods steal my color

[Blitzkrieg]

Transcend, I don't have the time for bullshit tyvm.

[MariaR]

Transcend, I don't have the time for bullshit tyvm.

Why did you sr me before

[Transcend]

oh crap y do mods steal my color

[Elyse]

didn't want this to happen so early but mariar has given me permission in our pt

MariaR and I are masons.

Do masons usually have daytalk

I was planning on voting Transcend and taking my meta tr back because I think people towntell best under a ton of pressure so if he could towntell it would make it easier for everyone to understand my townread on him like I already have.

Pressure from a mason partner usually works awesomely.

So are you doubting the mason claims or???

That's a pretty gutsy move D1 to tie yourself to your partner. Better off bussing imo.

If both are alive by Day x tho, then we start lynching them.

I fakeclaimed mason as scum with a townie once and won.

I don't believe the claim but it's not worth pursuing today.

@IAI
You say that I'm scummy for voting Maria by saying she's too skilled to get flustered as town without seeing her towngame. Yet in the same breath you say I'm scum for meta reasons without having seen me as town.

My point in making that comment was not to say that Maria is like x as town or y as scum. It was to say that her skill level as a player makes it hard for me to believe that her AtE is genuine.

VOTE: kraska

His posts just suck. When I have time I'll go into further detail.

Nero is town.

[kraska77]

IM A SHE DAMMIT

[Transcend]

IM A SHE DAMMIT

same

[I Am Innocent]

VOTE: MichelSableheart

Deciding between "of course my reasoning is forced" and Transcend's page 2 faux-rage was a toughie let me tell you

How is admitting that the reasoning is forced a scumtell?
I'm openly admitting to voting the biggest wagon because it's the biggest - that's an admission of lack of scum read and bandwagoning for the sake of a wagon. That's just as scummy.
What are you smoking here?

Michel seemed to be talking a big game and the sharp turn where he criticized his own wagon seemed off to me. It's not that he did it - it's that he did it after acting all confident.

Elyse why Kraska over michel?

[MichelSableheart]

Oof... Can you people cut down on the spamposting a little please? It's ok to think before you post. It's not ok to completely drown out everyone else.

and I will criticize those who don't give us anything to respond to.

except you only criticized blitz, which was selective.

Fair enough. Though attacking everyone would have led to a theory discussion rather then a discussion on who was scum, so I had to vote somewhat arbitrary.

So Maria, let me summarize: you were considering pressuring your mason partner in the hope that he would give off towntells under pressure? In a game where the main way for mafia to win is to get town mislynched? And you were surprised that you got bandwagoned when you implicitly mentioned this in thread? You couldn't understand why such a remark would be considered a huge scumslip?

Sigh. And this is supposed to be our mason pairing.

Unvote

@Gerry: any particular reasons to disbelief the maria/transcend claim, other than that they're two players who could try such a stunt as scum?

I have a townread on Blitzkrieg for finding that original post by Maria.
The behaviour of Thor and IAI during the Maria bandwagon also gave me pro-town vibes.

I'll have to look deeper in the kraska wagon, but that won't happen tonight.

[Elyse]

VOTE: MichelSableheart

Deciding between "of course my reasoning is forced" and Transcend's page 2 faux-rage was a toughie let me tell you

How is admitting that the reasoning is forced a scumtell?
I'm openly admitting to voting the biggest wagon because it's the biggest - that's an admission of lack of scum read and bandwagoning for the sake of a wagon. That's just as scummy.
What are you smoking here?

Michel seemed to be talking a big game and the sharp turn where he criticized his own wagon seemed off to me. It's not that he did it - it's that he did it after acting all confident.

Elyse why Kraska over michel?

I think kraska is scummier.

Michel was a good vote in RVS but he's not a major scumread atm.

[gerryoat]

@Gerry: any particular reasons to disbelief the maria/transcend claim, other than that they're two players who could try such a stunt as scum?

just doesnt feel right. why did transcend have to be the one to claim it for them when maria was the one being voted. couldn't she have just softed PR and left it as is?

[Nero Cain]

I'll have to look deeper in the kraska wagon, but that won't happen tonight.

don't worry about it, lets just wait on the modkill

[Shadow_step]

didn't want this to happen so early but mariar has given me permission in our pt

MariaR and I are masons.

*slow claps*

Is masons having daytalk considered normal in "normal" games ?