Newbie 1735 - Banana Split (Game Over!)

[jon_h61]

@accountant I haven't looked at your scum games yet, but I'm really interested to see how you did.

[JaeReed]

@accountant I haven't looked at your scum games yet, but I'm really interested to see how you did.

Look at the mini normal that nahdia modded. Accountant hard bussed both partners.

[jon_h61]

I'd rather kick your ass today, I don't trust the rest of the stooges enough to forfeit a possible future mis-lynch and to follow through when I flip.

Accountant's being pretty convincing.

@ all what say you?

[goodmorning]

Fluff? I have s minor complaint (request). While ISOing I'm finding a lot of quote strips that have no reference as to who you are talking sbout. At the time it may be obvious, but going back over ISOs, its not always obvious. Quoting the first post (or part thereof), then quote stripping the rest (pertaining to the person) would help cut down on confusion. TIA

If you're referring to mine, they always refer back to the last name quoted.

@GM, if there a reason you're sitting your vote on copper right now instead of joining in on the dragon pivot?

And this will seem cruel because it is, but is there a reason you insist on talking to iron like he's people? Several people have asked him to participate in a useful fashion and he just doubles down on the same nonsense, why do you think this time you'll actually get a worthwhile response?

A. Dragon's at, like, L-2. Also, I'm B. not in any hurry and C. still hoping that a copper wagon somehow happens.

I know he's capable of participating, so maybe, if I do the same thing over and over again, eventually I'll get a different result.

One thing to remember, when I jumped in and started looking over the thread, these things were being discussed. And what I pointed out then looked like slips to me. So I investigated. What strikes me as strange, no one else is chiming in. Except accountant, who I think is Town. I get all WIFOMy.

Or, possibly, we've been over them already. Like you said, you're late to the dance.

Convincingly what?

[jon_h61]

Scum reading copper.

[jon_h61]

To make things Clearer, I was on that page when Deb yelled to get downstairs and eat. I put it in.as a place marker
Kinda. I started in accountant's ISO, then jumped to the thread. Decided I felt acountant was probably right. I'm gonna havta sheep.

VOTE: coppet

[goodmorning]

I mean, I've been on the copper wagon all day.

I think we're scumreading copper for different reasons though.

[jon_h61]

VOTE: copper

Err..... I'm using a really small phone. And it's the first and I hope the last time too.

Pedit what do you mean?

[goodmorning]

I mean that Accountant and I have different reasons for scumreading copper. That's all.

[jon_h61]

K

[Accountant]

VOTE: copper
I feel DDD when he says copper keeps playing the fake gotcha game

[ironstove]

If copper flips town will everyone Lynch DDd?

[copper223]

To make things Clearer, I was on that page when Deb yelled to get downstairs and eat. I put it in.as a place marker
Kinda. I started in accountant's ISO, then jumped to the thread. Decided I felt acountant was probably right. I'm gonna havta sheep.

VOTE: coppet

What are you sheeping if you'd decided earlier that I was scum independently?

[ironstove]

VOTE: jon_h61

[ironstove]

Jon, what are your reads of myself and guiltylion? Are we null or...?

Your biggest scum read is copper, but why did you say you're sheeping Accountant? Why do you have to say it's sheeping if you're voting for your biggest scum read?

Accountant is your strongest town read? Is that right?

[copper223]

I've reached the end of my patience with this player-list, and I think my flip may actually be beneficial at this point, for sure it will please me to be out of this game.

Reads (I'll do my best but given the people I'm playing with I don't have the same confidence as I usually do):

Jae: I think they are town, although those DDD defense posts combined with the long inactive period weirded me out. Don't scum-read them for not voting anyone for a long time as that is a bad tendency they have but not scum indicative in their case. If Accountant and/or DDD flip scum and you've also lynched or cleared what I believe are their likely buddies come back here, maybe possibly there was an early buss from GL going on but that's really a marginal case and I'd discount it unless a lot happens after this read-list.

GL: In a normal game I wouldn't hazard a town-read here because he has a tendency to just post in bursts and only at interesting times, given the circumstances though I also believe he is town, review this if DDD flips scum or if someone disconnected from my main reads like Iron or Jon does.

Jon: I hate it when town comes in and half-asses it and I think this is what happened here (proof is in all the "I started doing a) but then found b)" stuff, seems more like a scatterbrain than scum to me), I think your reads are absolute garbage though so throw them away. He could be a buddy for the 3 stooges or Dragon though and just felt he could get rid of me (in which case that's good scum play, my bad, but I don't know how I could catch you here if that's what you're doing), review it if one of the those flips scum.

Iron: his posting has gotten progressively scummier (what happens if DDD flips town tomorrow as well, then if you're town you are going to get hammered at lylo and you lost the game based on a day 1 read, how stupid can you be playing? This made me think, this guy has to be scum but after re-reading I just think your false confidence is just boundless this game). Review this if Dragon flips scum (and you haven't won the game yet because Dragon should always be lynched after Accountant).

GM: I think the fact she stayed on me when everyone else ignored the wagon, the AtE about trying her best with newbies and her complaint that she was looking like a likely compromise lynch tomorrow mean she is more likely town than scum, if that's the case I strongly urge you to go back to your sabbatical and stay there, some people are just not made to play this game. If you're scum I have no words for the level to which you are willing to sink. Review this (and I mean throw it out of the window) if she is alive at lylo without a good reason.

Dragon: If Accountant flips scum look here for his buddy.

DDD: preferred lynch if Accountant flips town, mass claim before it happens and hopefully the PR allocation will help you if it did not before.

Accountant: Lynch tomorrow.

I have never been lynched as town, I have never reached lylo as town (other than as a tree-stump) and in a newbie I have never survived past D2 as town, this is how bad some of you are, read the flip and weep at your ineptitude.

[JaeReed]

Ok I'll actually get into action after that post. Jon is town I think but has been doing his best to destroy my tr on that slot since he replaced in. I can see gm as town. Still not into an Accountant lynch. Townreading GL strongly. Willing to compromise on anyone else at this point. That means my lynchpool is in DDD, Dragon, iron.

I'll make it clear: I do not know where to vote. I have no case, but I think copper is town guaranteed after that post and am willing to go hard to derail this shit if I have to. Don't make me.

@copper where's your compromise in my list? Or are you absolutely set on Accountant or you today?

[copper223]

The compromise lynch is Dragon, not because I think he is scummier than the rest on your list, but he's the one we would converge to if we ignore our personal biases.

[JaeReed]

VOTE: Dragon

Bed now. Will respond to anything in the morning.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

My initial read of DDD is Town. I still don't get the copper/Dragon tag team. Just seems "too scummy to be scum." I'm almost sure one of them is scum. The argument is just so convoluted. It doesn't feel natural (to me).

I'll disagree with Accountant and agree the too scummy to be scum is a thing and while I wouldn't say copper/Dragon have achieved that, the way they've been operating as a tag team feels very strange. Personally I'm more inclined towards one of (copper/Dragon) with a teammate sitting a bit off to the side in (Jae/GL) but there is a possibility that Dragon replaced in and felt the need to help his buddy make his point and then figuring they'd already linked each other they just embraced it hoping to draw the exact argument that scum wouldn't link that closely together. There's even a little bit of suggestive evidence for the latter theory with copper's weird little jaunt into suspecting Dragon for like five seconds until Dragon posted the exact same arguments we'd seen before.

A. Dragon's at, like, L-2. Also, I'm B. not in any hurry and C. still hoping that a copper wagon somehow happens.

Explain to me the big preference for copper over Dragon?

I know he's capable of participating, so maybe, if I do the same thing over and over again, eventually I'll get a different result.

I mean I know you were invoking it yourself but that's the "definition" of insanity.

[goodmorning]

I have never been lynched as town, I have never reached lylo as town (other than as a tree-stump) and in a newbie I have never survived past D2 as town, this is how bad some of you are, read the flip and weep at your ineptitude.

l o l
I've said it before:
If one place you go smells of shit it's probably a poorly-cleaned public convenience. If every place you go smells of shit you may want to check your shoes.

I think copper is town guaranteed after that post

ugh, seriously???

A. Dragon's at, like, L-2. Also, I'm B. not in any hurry and C. still hoping that a copper wagon somehow happens.

Explain to me the big preference for copper over Dragon?

Given that it's unlikely they're both Scum, Dragon seems the more likely of the two to be Town (albeit very silly Town) than copper does.

I know he's capable of participating, so maybe, if I do the same thing over and over again, eventually I'll get a different result.

I mean I know you were invoking it yourself but that's the "definition" of insanity.

Well, you slightly modify it, prodding with kindness or insults or questions or comments, appealing to ego or fear or whatever. Eventually it probably happens. I mean, he's already asked jon some questions.

[ironstove]

DDD IS STILL THE LYNCH.

UNVOTE:

[Accountant]

ate isnt gonna save ya copper

[goodmorning]

what is even the point of changing your vote before the person you voted even comes around to see it

[copper223]

l o l
I've said it before:
If one place you go smells of shit it's probably a poorly-cleaned public convenience. If every place you go smells of shit you may want to check your shoes.

Thanks for making my argument for me.