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[I Am Innocent]

Michel who else do u think may be scum other than transcend?

[Thor665]

Town gambits are a thing but I think that scum usally buy claims from town.

Unless one of the fake claimers is scum, natch.

You don't soft pr very much unless you really are pr I rarely see you do it as blue and you are scummy for the gamit but not on the tier of Sable/Elyse maybe I'm wrong on you could be.

Then why were you arguing with me and voting him in the first place when I wanted you to vote Elyse?

Thor, what makes you say that Elyse's vote was the most opportunistic on the wagon?

Timing and over justification off dreck.

Link me to any game wherein scum fakeclaimed Masons day 1 and I'll be much inclined to move my vote.

Did you miss where I said I fakeclaimed mason as scum with a townie and won?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=32269

Yeah, my specific ask was for scum to fakeclaim with scum, though I'll agree you could have read it differently, but that's what you were selling, and that's what I was suggesting never happens.

[MichelSableheart]

Not really all that sure, to be honest. Generally speaking I find it easier to identify who is town than who is scum.

Next to Transcend, Maria is by far my topmost suspect. There is still her scumslip in post #78, and I would have hoped town maria would have realized how dangerous Transcends mason claim was.

After that, my scumreads are a lot weaker.

I'm somewhat suspicious of kraska, as I don't understand how a pro-town player could get an early townread on Maria.

Both shadowstep and Karnos have contributed virtually nothing useful, and could easily be lurking scum.

Though I don't understand Gerry's dayvig gambit, I don't really see how it would benefit him as scum, so I have him more as neutral.

The rest of the players seem to be actively scumhunting to me. I'm particularly townreading blitzkrieg, Thor and you, with more doubts about JJD, Elyse and Nero.

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Transcend and Maria seem ballsy enough to try fakeclaiming masons as a scumteam, and their play is erratic enough that a lynch of the other is not automatic if one of them gets lynched.

[Transcend]

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[Transcend]

Guys this is legitimate horse shit right in front of your fucking face.

[Transcend]

I have explicitly stated that had I not been threatened with the blacklisting, I would have kept my mason claim.

[Transcend]

And I had no reason to retract as scum with Maria as votes were supposedly going to Elyse/kraskanumbers and not us.

I had no reason to retract as wolf without her either.

I simply retracted to avoid getting fucking blacklisted.

[JarJarDrinks]

Not sure what ur talking about trans. Michel has some of the best posts of the game thus far. I don't get how he can be scumread AT ALL.

[Transcend]

You're a blind fucking idiot. His posts reek of utter bullshit. You'll see in postgame when he's kekking at you the entire game in his PT.

[JarJarDrinks]

FYI, the blacklist thing was a gambit. I don't blacklist people.

[I Am Innocent]

Both shadowstep and Karnos have contributed virtually nothing useful, and could easily be lurking scum.

I've overall been happy with how this day has gone, with the exception of these two. Time to get them sorted... Warning to both, start playing in the next 24 hours or receive my vote. Reads list would be a great start.

[kraska77]

Michel has some of the best posts of the game thus far.

lolwat

[JarJarDrinks]

Also keep calling people idiots trans.

If you are town and get lynched here, it's because of your own terrible ego-driven gambit.

Garbage plays like that from town are what ruin perfectly good games of mafia.

[kraska77]

"Egodriven gambit"
Lol
Mason claim was obviously fake
What are you on about

[kraska77]

I'm new and yet every single game I've been in someone fakeclaims mason day 1
U guys have older join dates and yet u believe that stuff and make a big deal out of a gambit like that's not usual business on this site

[JarJarDrinks]

I'm new and yet every single game I've been in someone fakeclaims mason day 1
U guys have older join dates and yet u believe that stuff and make a big deal out of a gambit like that's not usual business on this site

I haven't seen it.

Regardless it doesn't change what I said.

[Transcend]

we had 4 people claim mason in our large game.

they all bluffed.

nice gambit kind of a dick move but whatever.

the truth is out and i lied to protect someone i strongly believe is a town mate.

[kraska77]

I'll do proper catchup later today

[Transcend]

Also keep calling people idiots trans.

If you are town and get lynched here, it's because of your own terrible ego-driven gambit.

Garbage plays like that from town are what ruin perfectly good games of mafia.

Ego-driven!?!?!?!!?

Sheesh... I've used my ego so many times on this website and this was not one of them.

I was literally protecting a townread.

[karnos]

Both shadowstep and Karnos have contributed virtually nothing useful, and could easily be lurking scum.

I've overall been happy with how this day has gone, with the exception of these two. Time to get them sorted... Warning to both, start playing in the next 24 hours or receive my vote. Reads list would be a great start.

Hi. I usually post at work. I'll be posting a bit later, again the thread has some 9+ new pages of content to catch up on and I just finished catching up on my other less active games.

[JarJarDrinks]

I was literally protecting a townread.

Which is terrible play as town. Even if you're correct about it, by making that claim, the wagon dissolves and now we can't analyze the votes on it since everyone (town and scum) will all have the same reaction: unvoting.

Furthermore, you risk yourself getting lynched once the lie comes out.

Like I said, plays like that lose games for town.

[JarJarDrinks]

Also looking @ your ISO trans, it looks like you were planning to townread maria before the game even started.

[JarJarDrinks]

You were already townreading her here:

Jar and Michael are early scumreads

K yeah let's be power town again *hops in le pocket*

What did u see in her 4 posts that came before this to townread her?

[Thor665]

I'm particularly townreading blitzkrieg, Thor and you, with more doubts about JJD, Elyse and Nero.

I would easily and happily argue that JarJar and Nero are both blatantly better townreads than Blitz (or IAI for that matter).
Why are you conflicted on those two?

[Transcend]

uh........

i tr'd her because of her tone and because she had two initial scumreads i had.

i still have the mich one, but you're fucking obvious town again.