Open 646 - Semi Nightless - Game Over (D6)

[mhsmith0]

Cool. Where's your head space on trans ten and me?

[mhsmith0]

Tenshii being high in my earlier readlists was because of the fact that A: scumreading him would be due to pre-flip associations D1, B: I thought his posts about the dodgeball gag were kind of townie, especially with scummier people alive, and C: I have townread every single slot in this game except for Karnos's at some point.

Out of everyone alive, I think Tenshii is the most obviously scummy, but it's still plausible he's not scum.

I think this was your most recent read. Still there or no? I'm basically at the same place; I have a really hard time seeing you Thor or trans as a wolf here.

[mhsmith0]

Mod is prodging but it's been a week and I don't see any reason to not think it's tenshii.

VOTE: tenshii

[Transcend]

Giga where's your vote at? I don't really wanna lynch thor like tenshii wants but i definitely don't wanna lynch tenshii. Would you lynch smith?

[Transcend]

May i just remind the public that smith parked his vote on tenshii after being sure about him for quite some time only once thor voted?

[Transcend]

Since it took so long for him to vote, this only reads to me like he would've acquiesced to any rising lynch but himself.

Tenshii: the deal is, Thor's staying alive. Like it or not, i don't give a rats. You're gonna either vote smith or you're gonna eat rope. Not by my hand of course but I'm giving you no other choice.

[Transcend]

Like quote me if I'm wrong but smith spent all day trying to lynch tenshii yesterday and Tenshii

did

have momentum. But the guy acquiesced to Maria who had more wifom which was Rosske who the guy laughed about my case on.

[Transcend]

More momentum* not wifom lol

[Transcend]

Giga please read 2603-2607 when you have the chance.

[Tenshii]

@Giga I don't know. Maybe it was an honest question I guess. I still think there has to be some reason why Karnos acted the way he did. Also, in a world where I make it to 3 way with Thor/Trans, would you want me to vote Trans?

@mh Why do you townread Trans? Also do you just straight up not agree with my 2593?

@Trans I still think it's Thor. But it sucks how 3/3 don't want to vote him. I'll fight against mh if Giga declares intent to hammer but I still think it's Thor.

[Transcend]

Unfortunately you're in a position where you don't have much of a choice.

[Tenshii]

I at least want Giga to post first. I'll switch if it comes down to it.

[tojam2]

VC 5 - 2

mhsmith0 L-2 - Transcend
Tenshii L-1 - Thor665, mhsmith0

(expired on 2016-09-15 08:00:00)

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Tenshii being high in my earlier readlists was because of the fact that A: scumreading him would be due to pre-flip associations D1, B: I thought his posts about the dodgeball gag were kind of townie, especially with scummier people alive, and C: I have townread every single slot in this game except for Karnos's at some point.

Out of everyone alive, I think Tenshii is the most obviously scummy, but it's still plausible he's not scum.

I think this was your most recent read. Still there or no? I'm basically at the same place; I have a really hard time seeing you Thor or trans as a wolf here.

Yes, pretty much.

What's making me not vote is that I don't know what LYLO is safer. The one of {smith, tenshii} that isn't lynched will obviously make it. But what happens in, say, a Smith/Thor/Giga lylo...? Or Smith/Thor/Transcend? There are a lot of possibilities that I can see go wrong if it's not Tenshii.

Tenshii, if you're town and you make it to LYLO with Thor and Transcend, I really wouldn't know who you should vote for. If Thor votes for you instantly and you're town, the game is instantly lost if Transcend is mafia (unless it's Thor in which case you're forced to crossvote anyway). Kind of a useless answer, but I think the best thing to do is agree with everyone on who crossvotes before voting.

Transcend is most likely town. Mhsmith and Tenshii can really be anything at this point, I keep waffling between the two. I don't see a way Thor gets lynched today if at all, so Tenshii should probably vote for Smith and then allow me to hammer whoever I feel is correct.

[Transcend]

if tenshii flips and i die i want you to lynch smith fwiw.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

if tenshii flips and i die i want you to lynch smith fwiw.

yeah that's the most likely scenario i think.

only concern is that thor might vote me over mhsmith in that LYLO, it would look very strange if both Thor and I were alive together tomorrow.

[Thor665]

Kind of a useless answer, but I think the best thing to do is agree with everyone on who crossvotes before voting.

Don't really see the point in this.
Like, if A, B, and C are in lylo, and A townreads B and scumreads C he doesn't care what the discussion on cross voting is - he's going to vote C unless he is bad at the game.

[Transcend]

huh

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Kind of a useless answer, but I think the best thing to do is agree with everyone on who crossvotes before voting.

Don't really see the point in this.
Like, if A, B, and C are in lylo, and A townreads B and scumreads C he doesn't care what the discussion on cross voting is - he's going to vote C unless he is bad at the game.

Say, in a Thor/Smith/Transcend LYLO, I think it would be an issue if, say, town!Transcend comes in and votes town!Thor and lets scum!Smith quickhammer... I know that's not likely to happen, but I would prefer if we can make sure that a universal townread gets to hammer. I thought that made sense, idk

[Thor665]

In a Thor/Smith/Transcend setup there is no universal townread, so I don't see how you intend to set up one.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

wouldn't it be you though? I know in my example transcend voted for you but I don't think that's how it'd actually go.

[Transcend]

Giga's the universal townread here and has already won the game if he's scum. He gets hammer in 3 way should we make it here, just like he's gonna get hammer today.

[Thor665]

wouldn't it be you though? I know in my example transcend voted for you but I don't think that's how it'd actually go.

If I'm a universal town read then no one will vote me anyway, and functionally I have the hammer regardless of if I vote first or second.
Same difference.

[Transcend]

Blugh.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Blugh.

Thanks, Transcend.

I still don't feel ready to hammer, but I can't really think of anything I can do that will make me feel ready. Does anyone have last thoughts or anything to input...? If Tenshii flips town, I don't really see my reads changing.