I'm back and forth on DDD for his recent content. Might be willing to go there. Funnily enough it's for the same reasons you're thinking he's more likely to be town.In post 929, copper223 wrote: I am convinced Jae is town, they tell me they think Accountant and DDD are not scum (I've been going back and forth with the two of them so I'm likely the more biased of the two when judging those players), but we do both agree that you could be scum and that's one point.
The analysis of this in brackets is a good point.In post 929, copper223 wrote:You and Accountant being a team is based on you saying (and me verifying) that you tend to town-read your teammates as scum, that you've given a town-read on Accountant that I don't understand (and when I asked you to explain or prodded you about a point I made for why Accountant is scum, you told me those things were NAI, but if that's the case where does the town-read come from and why weren't you worried about me pushing NAI points in the first place?).
Why do you not believe scum!DDD would fake scumhunting off his own wagon? I think anyone who has been run up as town would know what to do about it as scum. I don't feel like he's analyzing the votes on his wagon. Generally as town if you think you're going to be lynched and need to scumhunt off your wagon, you're going to look at who had the shiftiest looking votes on you, and who stayed off for no discernible reason. You did that. DDD did not.In post 929, copper223 wrote:DDD is the only scum-read you have so your case on him is an important part of your read, when I first read it the point you made about how he handled the Drealmerz joke seemed legit to me (I also thought there might be something there), so I checked the interaction and I found the post I quoted, but the way DDD says he interpreted it is possible and his subsequent logic for why there was one scum on him and one sitting on the sidelines makes sense and it's the same process I've used to PoE one scum between {Acc., DDD, GM} and the rest of you.
Why are you attempting to discredit copper while agreeing with him on his "one of these three" scumreads? And by discredit, I mean the "scumread by PoE" and "automatically trust his reads" part of your post, not the part where you explain your townread on Accountant.In post 932, Dragonfire wrote: I just told you, the townread comes from me reading Accountant's posts before my first catch-up post.
So you bascially scumread me by PoE, because you think Jae is town and so automatically trust his reads, and you think DDD's logic makes sense? Also, I agree that there's definitely at least one scum in {Accountant, DDD, GM}.
In post 933, jon_h61 wrote:@copper I've read a lot of your posts in every one else's posts. But you right about me not reading you in ISO. I still think of us nine, you are most likely to be scum. I'll try to get a wall put up to show why I think that but phone. Ugh.
Who knows, maybe I'll cave and unvote you.
In post 934, jon_h61 wrote:Actually I think that is a waste of time. I think you're scum because of your attacks. They're weak, or meant to intimidate. I think you're scum.
Stop.Trying.To.Destroy.My.TR.On.Your.Slot.In post 937, jon_h61 wrote:Look, when reading ISOs I jump from it to the thread when I come across something I question. So its not like I haven't seen anything you've said. Putting out your suspicions (like some recent posts do) will help me better. I've read a lot of what you posted. I could be wrong. I don't think I am.
I won't convince you you're scum so I think we're done.
If you haven't read his posts and it's only been through other people's posts who have been pushing on him (by quoting what they think looks scummy, because when you're pushing for a lynch on someone you don't quote the shit that makes them look town, do you???) then you can't realistically make a fucking case on him. You realized this pretty quickly and decided to take the lazy way out. Stop it.
This is actually a possible outcome since I'm likely the nk tonight and won't be around to defend him. Anyone pushing copper due to BoP tomorrow if the lynch today falls on town should be speedlynched. 100% serious here.In post 938, Dragonfire wrote: Well the issue is that when I am lynched and flip town, you'll probably be next, as I won't be around to argue against your lynch and most people seem to think either you or I is scum. So I'd rather not die, knowing that my death will likely cause the death of another townie. I would be fine with my lynch if you agreed to lynch DDD tomorrow after my flip, but it seems like that's not going to happen.
No if Dragon is town and townreading you then voting for you would be bad. You're one of the strongest town players here which is why scum is obviously pushing for your lynch. Like I get that you're frustrated but we absolutely need you in this game for as long as scum risks not shooting you because you are one of the better players.In post 939, copper223 wrote:@Dragon
I understand, regardless of your alignment you should vote for me here.
I am also really not in the mood to continue so if you're town we probably have better chances if you make your DDD case tomorrow.
If you are town, look at the players that positioned themselves to vote for one of us regardless of the flip, they may be the ones setting up the mis-lynch, I am pretty confident of my Jae read so try to work with them.
Also you need to be more paranoid of me wking you as scum here. You're being too trusting. Motivation could simply be that you had me in your potential scum pool as a partner for one of your main scumreads and I didn't want you to flip with that being the end read. This is why you're susceptible to pocketing.
No. You do not play the word game after I called you out earlier in the thread when it was ACTUALLY time to play the semantics game to get the game rolling. You do not do that. You have no right to. So no. You know perfectly well what was intended with that phrasing and you know perfectly well that wasn't a slip.In post 940, goodmorning wrote:whatIn post 938, Dragonfire wrote:Well the issue is that when I am lynched and flip town, you'll probably be next, as I won't be around to argue against your lynch and most people seem to think either you or I is scum. So I'd rather not die,knowing that my death will likely cause the death of another townie. I would be fine with my lynch if you agreed to lynch DDD tomorrow after my flip, but it seems like that's not going to happen.
In the great words of Nahdia: "Pointing out scum slips that aren't really slips is a scumtell"In post 941, ironstove wrote:That was a scum slip that gm just pointed out
GM probably scum. We caught Dewy this way too in the Newbie I played with GL. it's a surprisingly accurate scumtell.
@Ironstove are you from EM?