Mini Normal 1827 - No Flavor Mafia (Game Over)

[BlackStar]

I haven't seen any ulterior motives in Naomi's posts

[Creature]

PoE:

Vedith

Seraphim

Killthestory

Blitzkrieg
Skelda

Transcend
Naomi-Tan

[Creature]

Btw, Seraphim replacing out isn't AI.

[Transcend]

O ye of little faith

[Blitzkrieg]

Btw, Seraphim replacing out isn't AI.

Seraphim is scum, but it looks like he subbed out across the board.

[Io]

It was too sudden of a leaving to really be AI anyways. When people just leave like that with no reason it's likely just life.

[Skelda]

I'll read the thread tomorrow guys.

This was a bad time in my life to start a game. I keep thinkimg that maybe I should replace out, but I don't want to leave you guys with two empty spots, plus maybe I'll be reinvigorated.

I am an easy lynch for scum to push though and I am Town, so keep that in mind. I think some people just want to keep the dayvig/lynch off of themselves.

It isn't Blitz or I. I haven't really read, but it isn't Seraphim's slot either.

[Killthestory]

if you don't do shit tomorrow then trust me when I say it's just better to replace out.

[Io]

PoE:

Vedith

Seraphim

Killthestory

Blitzkrieg
Skelda

Transcend
Naomi-Tan

I pretty much agree wit this only Kill and Blitz are swapped on my PoE.
I also don't see Trans as extremely likely, probably Blitz level likely.

Pretty sure either Seraph or Skelda are scum, but I'm having a hard time trying to figure out which it is.

[Vedith]

I also don't see Trans as extremely likely

Show me how he's been town.
This also means you agree on Naomi, right?

[BlackStar]

What's the case against Naomi? I know you said that you think they're fake, but could you elaborate?

[Naomi-Tan]

Whats PoE?

[BlackStar]

Process of elimination

[Naomi-Tan]

Òkay as you guys know my router blew up. what you don't know is my network card was the cause of it. I've just finished installing a new network card so now im back and full powered. So now my pc issues have stopped I'm getting right back into the flow of the game. Starting by going back to an earlier comment or chain of comments in this case. Way back at the start of the day we have this post here;

hey creature what happened to me being scum?

Did your team tell you to push someone else?

Go on...? expand please, how you know he has a team?

shh just wait Naomi

This here is one of two things; either a role fish, or a someone saying they have information. This leads me to believe that either one of creature or KTS is scum. At the time I backed off the arguement as I wanted it to play out naturally and see where it would lead though I miss informed everyone at the time as i wished there reactions to be true without outside influence that may scare scum. I feel I failed as my little comment got KTS to back down and he hasn't pushed since. This however doesn't stop my hunt. Lets revisit another thing.

hey creature what happened to me being scum?

Did your team tell you to push someone else?

Go on...? expand please, how you know he has a team?

shh just wait Naomi

Also, I really doubt massive is a mafia NK.

Im going to put this quote away for much later (not a post today but MUCH later)

It is now MUCH Later and I will expand what I meant at the time. Everynight Mafia gets a kill. This kill is normally choosen based on how it benefits scum.

Now looking at day 1 how would a massive kill benefit scum? only pro I see of it would be that they wouldn't get doc'd but if that was the case they could of targeted IO or one of the other pro-townie players who wasn't sticking out to be doced and was contributing. So.. Why massive?

Secondly I looked at massvies views. Maybe he said something that was too close for comfort maybe this post here;

hey creature what happened to me being scum?

Did your team tell you to push someone else?

Go on...? expand please, how you know he has a team?

shh just wait Naomi

Also, I really doubt massive is a mafia NK.

Im going to put this quote away for much later (not a post today but MUCH later)

You've done pretty much nothing

I gave you xyzzy, what more do you want from day one? Jeez.

Not gonna vote but I think you know where it goes.

IO is town, and Blitzkrieg being Titus explains a lot, but not enough for me to have any idea which way she swings. I like the connection between light and Jordarrian though.

To my knowledge he was the only one who suggested a link between jordarrian and light. This is a possible answer but wasn't the one I settled on in the end.

My final check was testing who read massive and how they read them. most people; my self included, had him down as a null however, there was one person who didn't Creature. a person who was suspected multiple times and read as a weaker town member at that stage who just miss lynched. XYZZY for a pretty bad reason saying themselves that they thought they was town. At the time they had them down in a list of people he wished wouldn't reach the end game.

Now.. Here comes the tricky part; What is KTS? Or what information does he have? At that stage Creature Soft claimed Vig and given his read matches the kill and the fact that scum motivation wise. the only thing that could be a factor is massive saying light and jorridy are linked. I feel the following situation is more likely

• Creature chooses to Vig Massive as they suspect them
• KTS // Mafia Rolecops Creature to work out if he is worth killing (as if he had no PR they could leave him up as a person to read lylo to lead to a miss lynch or otherwise outplay but confirming no PR helped)
• Seeing as most people have a townish veiw of KTS they get him to do the pressure (or he does it of his own free will) starting to ask leading questions to try and lay the foundations for a miss lynch
• When I question it they back off thinking that maybe I too have some information
• KTS Switches his thoughts on the matter and acts like he was just suspicious of the new read.

This leads me to the following conclusion; I was the target of the night kill but was saved (by a doc or some other protective role) This makes sense as I have been killed by mafia in pretty much all my town games of late Night 1 and everyone was town reading me at the time. The rolecop got information on creature and scum decided to attempt his miss lynch to prevent another vig shot and creature shot massive.

VOTE: KTS

Did you guys miss me XD

[Creature]

That's why that'd be nice that, if there's one, the roleblocker should out their target.

[Transcend]

Why would a roleblocker out? Thought we dismissed that there's no vig.

[Killthestory]

that's funny

naomi is scum.

[BlackStar]

What's the case against Naomi?

[Killthestory]

just read her attack on me.

she doesn't even bother to ask me questions, just assume I'm scum.

[Naomi-Tan]

hey creature what happened to me being scum?

Did your team tell you to push someone else?

Go on...? expand please, how you know he has a team?

shh just wait Naomi

Also, I really doubt massive is a mafia NK.

Im going to put this quote away for much later (not a post today but MUCH later)

You've done pretty much nothing

I gave you xyzzy, what more do you want from day one? Jeez.

Not gonna vote but I think you know where it goes.

IO is town, and Blitzkrieg being Titus explains a lot, but not enough for me to have any idea which way she swings. I like the connection between light and Jordarrian though.

just read her attack on me.

she doesn't even bother to ask me questions, just assume I'm scum.

If you would like a question I can put one to you; What was your objective in that interaction from a town perspective?

[Naomi-Tan]

I wonder when this quote trail will stop...

[Naomi-Tan]

Why would a roleblocker out? Thought we dismissed that there's no vig.

You guys dismissed it. I was out of connection at the time. I'm personally suspecting a JOAT with a vig on it. but it could also be a normal vig or one shot night vig.. there are a few possibilities.

[Creature]

Can we like start lynching/choosing a dayvig shot? We're just going back and forth here.

[Naomi-Tan]

Can we like start lynching/choosing a dayvig shot? We're just going back and forth here.

Creature; we have 10 days remaining and this discussion is likely to be tense, please don't try to stop discussion with comments like these. Unless you wanna just start lynching blind these kinds of talks help town greatly.

[Creature]

Well, I am so far just going back and forth.