Kids TV Show Characters Mafia - Endgame

[Eleven]

Vote Count 3.10

[5] DiamondSentinel ~ Medical Junkies, Aristophanes, BROseidon, Firebringer, Grib
[3] MagnaofIllusion ~ Gammagooey, hiplop, Cephrir
[2] hiplop ~ DiamondSentinel, MagnaofIllusion

[3] Not Voting ~ SnowStorm, Transcend, Zulfy

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch!

Deadline is at (expired on 2016-09-20 12:00:00).

[DiamondSentinel]

I hope that I'm a VT hidden Supersaint. That'd be awesome. I would really love that .

[SnowStorm]

ISO'ing MoI. This post is really confusing to me.

I regret engaging Cheetory on Snarky when he first questioned my Snarky read if only because in hindsight I probably should have given Snarky some more rope to hang himself with. But that’s out the door. 64 is not a post Town Snarky makes. His complete lack of reaction to my post on my success of reading him in the past makes sense from a scum perspective. I had called him scum but my vote was still on Diamond. Best course of action is not to “poke the bear” and maybe let my early read wash away in the obvious tidal wave of posts every Large game gets Day 1.

On top of Snarky and hiplop I’d also be satisfied with a camntsuki wagon after that weak-ass entrance. After supposedly reading 24 pages of material.

@farside

– please positive confirm or deny Diamond’s assertion in 622 that you claimed a Negative Utility role on Page 5.

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Hiplop’s reaction to my mild prodding is also makes me lean scum on him. Looks like the fake outrage Radiant Cowbells is probably the best template for this type of play on-site currently. His follow-up to it was to toss out some buzzwords (“Throw Shade, Fencesit”) and cobble together a small case to support his OMGUS which ironically is an attempt to “look busy” given he accused me of that exact fact.

But let’s address something that I think got away in the hiplop’s initial spamming –

THE FACT THAT HE SAYS THE "OH THIS BIG FIGHT IS TVT" IS REAL FUCKING BAD

Suddenly the context of your initial supposed scum play on me just changed here. Fence-sitting is not taking any position. Calling the Cheet / Fox slap-fight a Town versus Town fight would be the exact opposite of that. The fact you can’t even be sure what I am supposedly scum for doing is a sign you aren’t scum-hunting but just looking to find things you can paint as scummy.

We know I never called it TvT so this quote is a lie. Furthermore several people actually did call it TvT and you somehow didn’t bother to call them scum for it. Why is that?

eh snarky gets lynched day one like literally every game

Nope. In fact he didn’t get lynched as Town Day 1 in any of my joint games with him. Try again to dissuade a wagon on him?

It just

never feels good to lynch that snowman

Yup you did.

snarky being lynchbait is irrefutable, is what I am saying

Ooo and again.

VOTE: snarky

trusting you. Can't read the snowman

And the 180 based 100% on sheeping others when you’ve just made multiple statements about how he’s not a good lynch?

Awkward Bus Hop Engage!

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As far as negative utility roles are concerned, I'm against the idea. I have reasons, but I can't as explaining would break a rule.

I think I know where this is coming from and if so I disagree completely. But for the record … is your “breaking rules” related to your recent finished Princess Bride game? If so having a Miller or Ascetic not claim based on that game makes no sense to me.

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4. Yeah, no way. Every game will have, if not a miller, than an ascetic.

This is bad. Given your ranting in the Dead Thread and postgame of Shos’ Mini I think you need to leave set-up spec / analysis to others because you don’t seem very proficient at it.

Page 2: farside's saying "this is something my son watched" leaves me uneasy. It was a "crumb" about her flavor, even though nobody asked for it. I know it doesn't give much at all, but it still leaves me uneasy.

Why in any way, shape or form do you think it is in any way alignment indicative? This isn’t the first time you’ve floated this.

It starts with a U-turn on his Snarky read, which went from town to scum with a vote in a previous post. Then he goes on to expand his scum read on hiplop and attack him because he was defending Snarky. It's just weird.

MoI, how do you feel about this? You were right when you first started town reading Snarky, as was hiplop. How does this affect your hiplop read?

[MagnaofIllusion]

That post does not show a Town read on Snarky ...

Why do you think that at all?

[SnowStorm]

That post does not show a Town read on Snarky ...

Why do you think that at all?

Oh. Wait. My bad. I was under the impression you were town reading Snarky in the beginning with your exchange with Cheetory (why else would you pull up past games where both of you were town?), but you were actually using your past experience with town-Snarky to give some credibility to your scum read on him. Which isn't any better.

First, you're basing a scum read on experience with town-games. You had no meta on Snarky-scum but you just assumed he wasn't town because you couldn't see it. This is a wrong approach to scumhunting and the strength of your read was not natural. If you're good at reading town-Snarky you should have given him some time, not jump right away to the conclusion that he was scum.

Second, you had enough experience to know he was lynchbait, a nice target for scum and easily lynchable. And instead of looking out for possible scum trying to push an easy mislynch you made their job easier.

It doesn't make sense.

[Transcend]

k i really just want a flip for more information

this probably greens but

VOTE: DiamondSentinel

L-1.

[Zulfy]

I could do what I always do and just hammer for time.

But I wanna win for once.

[MagnaofIllusion]

First, you're basing a scum read on experience with town-games. You had no meta on Snarky-scum but you just assumed he wasn't town because you couldn't see it. This is a wrong approach to scumhunting and the strength of your read was not natural. If you're good at reading town-Snarky you should have given him some time, not jump right away to the conclusion that he was scum.

See now I know you have no clue what you are talking about. Or maybe scum looking for angles. How do you think in all those other games I Town-read Snarky? It wasn’t magic. It was that I had done research into his scum games and perceived differences between those games and the games where I Town read him. So stating I have no-meta on Snarky scum is just stupid. Unless you are one of those who say “You can only have meta from games you shared” in which case I say “Nah, that’s stupid”.

As for the rest of this post I don’t particularly care whether you think it is a proper approach to scum-hunting given you don’t have a clue what you are talking about regarding how I read Snarky.

Second, you had enough experience to know he was lynchbait, a nice target for scum and easily lynchable.

And instead of looking out for possible scum trying to push an easy mislynch you made their job easier.

So what’s your point here? That if I read someone who is a VI as scum I can’t possibly push them as such because they might be Town? News flash – VI players pull scum roles too. In fact part of the contribution to a recent game both Snarky Town and I Town lost was due to having too many Vis floating around and not lynching the scum VI hiding in among the Town Vis. In fact one of the reasons BTD didn’t get lynched is for the exact same reason you are stating – he’s lynchbaity and the Day 1 heat on him read as scum pushing on an easy lynch. And so several Town players (including myself) didn’t want to lynch him Day 1 for that reason.

And the bolded is ironic since the number one protector of Snarky Day 1 was Imperium who was scum. I’m curious why you are just ignoring that fact in your little “You made it too easy for scum”.

[DiamondSentinel]

I'd say best of luck, but even Lady Luck can't save this town now.

Also, I'd give advice, but nobody will listen to it. Well, some passing thoughts before I sign off.




Fuck you Broseidon.

[Transcend]

I could do what I always do and just hammer for time.

But I wanna win for once.

How do you know that hammering Diamond isn't a winning move?

UNVOTE:

[Transcend]

I might've been disgustingly horribly wrong about farside.

[MagnaofIllusion]

How do you know that hammering Diamond isn't a winning move?

UNVOTE:

You think Diamond is probably flipping Green so I'm confused as you seeing this as some scum-slip.

[Transcend]

I don't understand Zulfy's hesitation when he's been neutral all game lol

[BROseidon]

I might've been disgustingly horribly wrong about farside.

I'd do a flash wagon on Zulfy tbh, even if it means letting DS live another day.

[BROseidon]

Fuck you Broseidon.

Go fuck yourself. Seriously, you're a massive asshole who needs to understand how not to make people want to punch him in the face.

[hiplop]

VOTE: ds

Bro is lovely

[Transcend]

ith i guess

i think the only person i would actually mind getting lynched is ceph

but i'm actually down for that flashhammer idea.

[MagnaofIllusion]

VOTE: ds

Bro is lovely

If DS is Town and this isn't dead by the end of Day tomorrow then there is absolutely zero hope for Town this game ...

[Zulfy]

I would't mind too much either, if I'm being perfectly honest.

Would like to kick ass tho. Will have more free time on Thursday, would like to know all the g-dang claims.

[Zulfy]

I don't understand Zulfy's hesitation when he's been neutral all game lol

Untrue.


Will pick you up.

[Transcend]

Meh.

All the claims are confusing as eff.

I believe at most one (1) joat claim is real.

I don't extremely buy moi

[hiplop]

moi/ds are prob scum

[Transcend]

Joat is fairly stacked imo. Would this game be stacked enough to have two joats?

Serious question, i wanna know if 2 joats is plausible for a theme park game.

[Grib]

Gamma: Hide with Magna.

He and I will protect you.

Mafia can only block one of us.

We need to solve the main ITT issues.

[Grib]

Joat is fairly stacked imo. Would this game be stacked enough to have two joats?

Serious question, i wanna know if 2 joats is plausible for a theme park game.

One town one scum is more likely.

Could also be a red herring, but eh.