Mini Normal 1827 - No Flavor Mafia (Game Over)

[Vedith]

So here comes the lies from Naomi?
I never once said I town read Light. I said I didn't scum read him. That's a huuuuge fucking difference.
You also changed to me scum reading Blackstar at day end of day 1? That's also a lie.

You are saying that everyone said to you that they town read you. However, you're quotes suggested 5 people if you don't include Light.
You are saying that I had everyone as scum in day 1 apart from Light and Titus. That's another lie.

When I get home I'm going to provide everyone who said you're town with words of actually town and not something like "not scummy" I'm going to show everyone I called scum and everyone I called town considering I was throwing shade on everyone but Light and Titus, correct?

Then once you're caught out we can just lynch you.
Here's some self meta to go with your self meta - as scum I push or join easier wagons. As town I push who I actually think is scum which normally tends to be the harder wagons. Either you're an easy wagon that 'everyone' town reads or your not.

Either way, I'm calling out your bullshit and I'll be on about 7pm to prove the shit you're talking.

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[Transcend]

I think the best thing to do is not make any assumptions until Creature validates this or not.

[Naomi-Tan]

So here comes the lies from Naomi?
I never once said I town read Light. I said I didn't scum read him. That's a huuuuge fucking difference.
You also changed to me scum reading Blackstar at day end of day 1? That's also a lie.

You are saying that everyone said to you that they town read you. However, you're quotes suggested 5 people if you don't include Light.
You are saying that I had everyone as scum in day 1 apart from Light and Titus. That's another lie.

When I get home I'm going to provide everyone who said you're town with words of actually town and not something like "not scummy" I'm going to show everyone I called scum and everyone I called town considering I was throwing shade on everyone but Light and Titus, correct?

Then once you're caught out we can just lynch you.
Here's some self meta to go with your self meta - as scum I push or join easier wagons. As town I push who I actually think is scum which normally tends to be the harder wagons. Either you're an easy wagon that 'everyone' town reads or your not.

Either way, I'm calling out your bullshit and I'll be on about 7pm to prove the shit you're talking.

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I GUESS! but you definately felt strong enough about them to go after blackstar so they must been town leaning at least. like you may of stated they was not scum multiple times but I GUESS techincally that means you didn't town read them This doesn't really make anything better though as you still did go after blackstar over it. It was good enough to be a town read even if it wasn't one. In your words now. You never gave read lists how the hell am I meant to track that and present it. I only have your actions to go on. your words said not scum, your actions say town.

Dude how can i tell where you stood at the end of day 1! you never once gave an answer and you flipp flopped on blackstar post thing multiple times >_<

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vigilante

In normal games, vigs are always town. I don't like how your immediate reactions was to try and make me look like scum

You vigged someone who was about to be lynched.

What you linked is a night vig, not a day vig.
Day scum vigs do happen and not always town so that's incorrect on your part

However;

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

This proves you are town I guess.

Who pushes a person who literally just killed scum >_< This is scummy as heck!

I once dayvigged scum that was an obvious lynch when I was scum before, why can't others?
I went the whole game with town town reading me.
So pushing for him being scum here wouldn't be so bad, if it wasn't normal.

Regardless, this is town Titus 100%

lol vedith's reads are so terrible i honestly have no idea what to make with him

My reads can only be terrible if you already know peopls aligns...
Titus won't be scum, this is not scum Titus.
Blackstar won't be scum.

Any other reads I haven't given as I need to catch up and re read to get reads.

Explain how my reads are terrible?

Like those are your posts reviewing there alignment how the heck am I meant to be like; I guess there town reading them when you have two posts suspecting them. Its like you want me to ignore everything that happened before even if it was just 2 posts back!?

Im not indulging your 5 person theory it is entirely incorrect which I have proven beyond reason you can shove your 5 person theory to someone who cares about it 10 people had me as town read end of discussion.

You are saying that I had everyone as scum in day 1 apart from Light and Titus. That's another lie.

All I see is scum.

You say multiple people are scum, suspicious or ask when they are on a team and keep referencing there PT. I don't need much more than that.

I'm not going to read your 5 person theory post so don't waste your time. its not worth even considering.

[Naomi-Tan]

urgh I was so flustered I forgot to check if I had the right quote >_<

So Light was about to be lynched and Blackstar dayvigs him for town credit.

This was meant to be in place of 809

[Vedith]

You say multiple people are scum, suspicious or ask when they are on a team and keep referencing there PT. I don't need much more than that.

I'm not going to read your 5 person theory post so don't waste your time. its not worth even considering.

Point me to a player that hasn't had multiple people as scum in this game.
You are saying that me questioning/commenting on peoples actions is me calling them scum. Either one of us are mis reading something here or you are mis repping my ISO.

Why would you not read my counter to your comment of everyone calling you town?
You are giving false information out, and if you're not giving false information then that means my response will be false information. Either way it should be addressed, correct me if I'm wrong?

[Naomi-Tan]

You say multiple people are scum, suspicious or ask when they are on a team and keep referencing there PT. I don't need much more than that.

I'm not going to read your 5 person theory post so don't waste your time. its not worth even considering.

Point me to a player that hasn't had multiple people as scum in this game.
You are saying that me questioning/commenting on peoples actions is me calling them scum. Either one of us are mis reading something here or you are mis repping my ISO.

Why would you not read my counter to your comment of everyone calling you town?
You are giving false information out, and if you're not giving false information then that means my response will be false information. Either way it should be addressed, correct me if I'm wrong?

Im not reading your counter because its false and your not going to convince me other wise

Yes multiple people have had multiple players as scum. however they have likewise had multiple people as town and was willing to talk and change there veiws on things. you had over 20 posts railroading blackstar before he confirmed himself as town and your favourite arugement there just like here is that they was lying. Your using the same tactic accept i'm more volatile than blackstar.

[Transcend]

This is about as TVT as TVT can get.

Can we all hold hands, sing Kumbaya, and lynch Skelda?

[Naomi-Tan]

This is about as TVT as TVT can get.

Can we all hold hands, sing Kumbaya, and lynch Skelda?

I did say that they was town before this happened >_< but they want me to fight them.. and I'm thinking there less town when I researched and the harder they pushed.

[Transcend]

They're town and stfu

[Vedith]

I did say that they was town before this happened >_< but they want me to fight them.. and I'm thinking there less town when I researched and the harder they pushed.

So I'm scum because I called you scum...
That's what this basically says.
And KTS is my buddy, yeah?

[Transcend]

I did say that they was town before this happened >_< but they want me to fight them.. and I'm thinking there less town when I researched and the harder they pushed.

So I'm scum because I called you scum...
That's what this basically says.
And KTS is my buddy, yeah?

You also need to stop being a self righteous prick. You're free-styling on blatant town.

[Vedith]

You also need to stop being a self righteous prick. You're free-styling on blatant town.

And here's Trans defending Naomi.
I also believe you both calling me 'V' is a scum slip but I'll add to that later when home.
I need to check first to see if you have both been calling me that all game, or if it's probably in your PT talking about me.
It's about the small slip ups.

Also, you claiming TvT is such a cop out for if/when I flip. "See, it's TvT, lets keep town on Maomi". Not buying it.

[Transcend]

I also believe you both calling me 'V' is a scum slip but I'll add to that later when home.

You've lost your fucking marbles man.

[BlackStar]

You also need to stop being a self righteous prick. You're free-styling on blatant town.

And here's Trans defending Naomi.

I also believe you both calling me 'V' is a scum slip but I'll add to that later when home.
I need to check first to see if you have both been calling me that all game, or if it's probably in your PT talking about me.

It's about the small slip ups.

Also, you claiming TvT is such a cop out for if/when I flip. "See, it's TvT, lets keep town on Maomi". Not buying it.

WTF? Lol

[Naomi-Tan]

I also believe you both calling me 'V' is a scum slip but I'll add to that later when home.

You've lost your fucking marbles man.

Yeah WTF is that even. is everyone calling KTS KTS a scum slip too? What the hell. I didn't even get more down in your post than this part before having to create a post beacuse that is the dumbest thing i've ever heard

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Vedith I no longer care about your alignment I just want you gone from this game.

[Naomi-Tan]

I did say that they was town before this happened >_< but they want me to fight them.. and I'm thinking there less town when I researched and the harder they pushed.

So I'm scum because I called you scum...
That's what this basically says.
And KTS is my buddy, yeah?

No it says that you focusing on me made me look into you; iso you, had to re-read the game beacuse you demanding a fuck ton of quotes. and that made me review my position as can happen when your exposed to the entire game at once. My points on KTS are entirely unrelated to your thing and concidering you only mentioned them once and it was the weakest post. I wouldn't disbelieve your in a group. (from your perspective) not sure about from KTS's perspective because I honestly don't remember (plus he always is promising content and then waiting a few days before posting)

[Transcend]

Look N-T, I'm not too pleased with Vedith's attitude. However, that's just the game of mafia. You're gonna have an overly abrasive aggressive fucktwat that thinks he's hot shit, when in actuality they're just shit. You're gonna get annoyed by them and want to lynch them. But the goal at hand is to lynch

WHO YOU THINK IS MAFIA

and

NOT WHO PISSES YOU OFF THE MOST.

I have to stop myself from grudgelynching people in this game because I'm extremely irritable.

[Naomi-Tan]

Urgh... Do I have to.. It would be much easier to scum hunt without him being a shit >_<

[Transcend]

Yes nay nay. Unless you want to sub out, but i don't want you to sub out due to another player's actions. From experience Vedith is far from anything extremely toxic. He's just being conceited and silly.

Lemme attempt to get you back on track since you've been focused on V recently. What do you think about skelda?

[Vedith]

I no longer care about your alignment I just want you gone from this game.

You've heard it here first.
Naomi wants me gone because I am calling her scum, not because of my align.

@Blackstar - If 1 is calling me V all game and 1 is calling me Vedith all game, I can see them slipping here from talking about me in PT as the other taking habbits from one another.
You find scum a lot more by the small things than you do the big things imo, and I think that talking in PT has great influence on how people react, respond and just generally type. That's something I stand by.

Do you not find how they talk about each other or their bad interaction together even remotley odd?

Comments of TvT normally come from scum with a TvS, and TvS normally come from scum against a TvS.

Challenge me on that, go for it.

Before I even put my actual post in to prove Naomi wrong, Trans is trying to stop the conversation further and Naomi is already refusing to read it.
That's scared scum.

[Vedith]

Vedith is far from anything extremely toxic. He's just being conceited and silly.

This is false.
When I know that I'm right I am very toxic (or at least seen as that).
Tell me where I've been in a game as town as not toxic in this kind of situation, Trans.

[Transcend]

Dude

I'd be willing to bet cold hard cash that i called you 'V' in that game where i bluffed doc.

I tend to call people by the first letter of their sn sometimes.

[Transcend]

What I'm saying is you're toxic and make games unpleasant sometimes but you're not even remotely close to as bad as some other players I've met in my mafia career.

[Creature]

Thought I already validated I vigged massive, not fullclaiming.

[Vedith]

What I'm saying is you're toxic and make games unpleasant sometimes but you're not even remotely close to as bad as some other players I've met in my mafia career.

I mean, that's pot kettle there, but fair enough I mis understood your comment.