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[RachMarie]

uggh and I still ended up with a broken tag

@ mod could you fix pretty please with sugar on top thanks

[RachMarie]

could be scum not sure yet want to iso

skelda though definitely fits based on interactions plus vca

[Transcend]

let's l-1 this slot imo

[BlackStar]

BS what're your reads. Kinda interested where the only confirmed town body stands right now.

I'll post a reads list later

[Creature]

Rach is town.

[Blitzkrieg]

It's worth noting that scum would be a lot more inclined to buddy with the dayvig than push for their lynch.
I don't see Blitz as scum for pushing the dayvig at all. If anything he lacks the ability to connect dots.

The dots are connected fine. You're in denial. RachMarie is fenceshitting so hard right now.

[Blitzkrieg]

It's just not worth it as scum to push a dayvig.
1) you run the risk of pissing off said dayvig and dying.
2) you know you're not going to lynch him because face it, scum wouldn't get a 2-shot dayvig even in a non-normal game.
3) you get a bit suspicious for doing so. I guess you could go for the long con and hope someone says scum wouldn't do that like now, but still.

Agreed, but BlackStar has to take that second shot.

[Blitzkrieg]

Hi ScumMarie. Love you. There's a guilty in the thread. The target said nice try, you should bus them.

[Io]

let's l-1 this slot imo

You know, I was thinking about putting that slot at L-2 just now, but I went back over their ISO.
I just don't feel quite right about their lynch anymore.
Their posts do feel pretty genuine and you can feel the lack of motivation radiating from Skelda even before Light was shot so it's not like a defeated scum thinking they have no hope with a dead partner.

Skelda's early game was pretty spotty and they cited IRL just getting in the way, but then at 664 they do admit they don't really have motivation for playing the game.
Skelda also was the only person to challenge Kill pretty early, though they dropped it. At the very least it's not a SvS motivated vote.

Their was also Skelda's town slip in 978 everyone seams to have skipped over/ignored.

So then what is scummy about Skelda? Well from what I see D1 their lack of opinions could have been a reason to scum read Skelda, but looking at them now not only does Skelda have reads, Skelda is actually changing their reads too even willing to admit they were probably wrong about Naomi being scum and flipping to a Naomi town read (Not that I fully agree with it). Skelda was also defending Seraph a bit before Rach stepped in to help the slot.
The only thing I found somewhat scummy from reading their ISO was the conflicting messages between who should be claiming and not claiming in 1104 and 1111, but even then those aren't even really that scummy because we did lynch Xyzzy and Seraph didn't even claim which is what Skelda was advocating for.

I'm just not really seeing it now that I went back to reevaluate Skelda. I don't think they are scum.
I'll be leaving my vote on KTS for right now. More later.

[Naomi-Tan]

@IO thats pretty much why i'm not on eht train too... Skelda Is only scummy by lack of inactivity and even then there the least scummy in my current sets. I'm really wanting them to have a good replacement or something to help everything along.

[BlackStar]

I think that at least one of kts and sera are scum. Not sure who we should go after first. It's possible that it's Skelda, but it looks like he just hasn't done much because he's been busy in real life. So I can't tell if he's scum or not

[Naomi-Tan]

Can I get your thoughts on Scum!KTS Blackstar? He was my oringal thoughts for the day but now I'm town leaning and wanna know your reasoning

[BlackStar]

It doesn't feel like he's trying to figure anything out. I can't remember him pushing hard for anyone's lynch or making a case or anything like that. And there was also that hammer he did on xyzzy that was pretty bad

[Io]

Naomi v KTS is almost certainly TvS I think. KTS's switching of 180 read on Naomi for really no reason is very bad. Also him scum reading me for scum reading him is also pretty bad, and it looks like it's his same reason for scum reading Naomi too.

Black can I borrow your gun for a second to shoot KTS?

[Naomi-Tan]

I guess i do have a bit of explaining to do; I though about my theory and it is all good excluding; watcher and tracker and gun smith all of which I disreguarded at the time. and with Creature admitting to the kill It made KTS back off. which I didn't get at the time :/ sorry IO

[RachMarie]

fence sitting ROFL oh try again Titus seriously?

I have scum reads, I have town reads, how am I sitting on a fence? I read all that stuff INCLUDING the huge wall posts by naomi

seriously

Skelda is scum

It fits with the pattern of things including the vote counts.

KTS is not looking really good either he needs to get more involved.

Black is not scum hes a 2 shot dayvig

Creature has partly outted himself so yeah lets not push for any more outting of PRs please folks

[RachMarie]

Naomi STOP no more PR talk ok girl seriously let the PRs do their thing we do not need to give scum more ideas of who they are.

Focus on scum hunting.

[Naomi-Tan]

I was worried they'd push on me.. given I just shown that I freak out a bit with people on me.. so wanted to answer that before I got people thinking im scum a miss lynch happens. Sorry Rach

[Creature]

Townreads of my head: BlackStar, Naomi, RachMarie, Io, Blitzkrieg.

Who's left?

[RachMarie]

Relax some people will think you are scum even when you are town look at how hot blitz aka titus is on my butt about being scum.

I think you are town though, I just do not see any scum doing the level of insane posting you did. However some people on site do look at huge quote walls as scummy.

[RachMarie]

Yeah I kinda think she is just stuck in one of her crazy tunnels and I just happened to be the one shes tunneling on, creature.

[Creature]

KTS, Skelda, Transcend, Vedith

Who's scum here?

[RachMarie]

Skelda and possibly KTS That is where I am looking

[Naomi-Tan]

I wanna lynch V just for being a jerk. but Out of Creatures set I Would go;

Town -> Transcend, KTS, Skelda, V <- Scum

[Transcend]

Genuinely think blitz is scum, but u do u.