Mini Normal 1829 - Game Over

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #1550 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:54 am

In post 1532, Shadow_step wrote:
In post 1531, JarJarDrinks wrote:How do you know that? Isn't there a chance Gig is lying?
There is, but was inclined to believe it after Maria's flip.

Shadow, can you explain what exactly about Marias flip made you believe gigas aesthetic claim?

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #1551 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:55 am

Vanilla Cop isn't too useful as an investigative for town anyway, I think Shadow used it in the best way possible (verify claims).

Shadow, do you still mind answering my questions?

Nero Cain · Post Post #1552 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:15 am

In post 1551, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:Vanilla Cop isn't too useful as an investigative for town anyway,

yeah wich is why it makes some sense as a fakeclaim. Like, idk. If he's scum, unless Elyse is his buddy, he knew she was town and that her VT claim was 99.9% likely to be true and its the

ONE

result that he can give. Like the majority of us

ARE

VTs so he could have randomly guessed and been right but it runs the risk out if he says he has a vt result on a non VT we'd know he was lying.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1553 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:23 am

In post 1529, Shadow_step wrote:I thought my best chance tonight was catching Elyse in a lie, is she was scum.

but as you say, a goon would come back as vanilla so its not like you've confirmed she was town, just not a PR.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1554 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:56 am

hrmmmm....

I

was just about to buy into the blitz/karnos/shadow team and then I looked at 649.

Shadow was a town cop. He did not lurk, you were active and were trying to game solve. He

WAS shot

on n4 but still...

Shadows

claim that he was lurking and being lynchable here doesn't mesh with 649. I mean Kranksa could just be horrible but I'm back to thinking she might be scum especially if he flips scum.

gerryoat · Post Post #1555 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:16 am

In post 1519, Shadow_step wrote:Okay fuck this shit.
I will get roleblocked or die after I claim anyway which is why I didn't want to claim.
I'm a Vanilla Cop.

Checked Elyse N1 to make sure she wasn't lying. She's vanilla.

??????????? why would you not check me your biggest scumread lool

gerryoat · Post Post #1556 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 11:18 am

I think giga is scum. I think transcend did a gambit and tried to buddy maria the town. giga has also seemingly been ok with voting pretty much anyone so far.

VOTE: giga

Shadow_step · Post Post #1557 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:21 pm

In post 1553, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1529, Shadow_step wrote:I thought my best chance tonight was catching Elyse in a lie, is she was scum.
but as you say, a goon would come back as vanilla so its not like you've confirmed she was town, just not a PR.

I think goons claiming vanilla is dangerous AF because they do most of the killing. They won't be able to account for their movement if they claim to be Vanilla. Whereas Mafia PRs don't really use their night actions every night esp if they are x shot. So it is easier for them to claim Vanilla. So I figured...

Shadow_step · Post Post #1558 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:24 pm

In post 1550, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 1532, Shadow_step wrote:
In post 1531, JarJarDrinks wrote:How do you know that? Isn't there a chance Gig is lying?
There is, but was inclined to believe it after Maria's flip.
Shadow, can you explain what exactly about Marias flip made you believe gigas aesthetic claim?

Maria flipping town ofc, it is very ballsy play to claim being masons who are not your buddy and trying to protect them.
I mean it could have backfired so hard. Transcend claims to be masons with maria as scum. Town maria says he is lying. Transcend gets lynched. I don't see scum being so stupid.

Shadow_step · Post Post #1559 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:28 pm

In post 1554, Nero Cain wrote:hrmmmm....
I
was just about to buy into the blitz/karnos/shadow team and then I looked at 649.

Shadow was a town cop. He did not lurk, you were active and were trying to game solve. He
WAS shot
on n4 but still...

Shadows
claim that he was lurking and being lynchable here doesn't mesh with 649. I mean Kranksa could just be horrible but I'm back to thinking she might be scum especially if he flips scum.

In that game I was last in the draft. I knew I wouldn't be a priority kill even if my reads were right.

chilledtea · Post Post #1560 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:39 pm

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT 2.04

Blitzkrieg (L-2) : kraska77, JarJarDrinks, gigabyteTroubadour, Nero Cain.

gigabyteTroubadour (L-4) : Blitzkrieg, gerryoat.

JarJarDrinks (L-5) : Shadow_step.

karnos (L-5) : Thor665.

Nero Cain (L-5) : karnos.

Not Voting (2) : Elyse, MichelSableheart.

Day will end in (expired on 2016-09-23 00:00:00)

chilledtea · Post Post #1561 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:38 pm

Elyse has been prodded.

kraska77 · Post Post #1562 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:54 pm

In post 1554, Nero Cain wrote:hrmmmm....
I
was just about to buy into the blitz/karnos/shadow team and then I looked at 649.

Shadow was a town cop. He did not lurk, you were active and were trying to game solve. He
WAS shot
on n4 but still...

Shadows
claim that he was lurking and being lynchable here doesn't mesh with 649. I mean Kranksa could just be horrible but I'm back to thinking she might be scum especially if he flips scum.

Like he said, he was bottom of the draft that game so u can't compare to this game . He also was lynchbait and was wagoned many times until he claimed his giilty. Now if ud stop the mudslinging and help get people on blitz, that would be appreciated. Even if it turns out im wrong about blitz, I'm not wrong on shadow...so you need to reevaluate your reads if they're based on shadow being scum

gerryoat · Post Post #1563 (ISO) » Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:25 pm

hi shadow can you answer me? Why didn't you check me. I was your biggest scumread, and Maria said you should lynch me after she was lynched. Why was I not checked??

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #1564 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:15 am

he answered that already gerry

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #1565 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:29 am

In post 1558, Shadow_step wrote:
In post 1550, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 1532, Shadow_step wrote:
In post 1531, JarJarDrinks wrote:How do you know that? Isn't there a chance Gig is lying?
There is, but was inclined to believe it after Maria's flip.
Shadow, can you explain what exactly about Marias flip made you believe gigas aesthetic claim?
Maria flipping town ofc, it is very ballsy play to claim being masons who are not your buddy and trying to protect them.
I mean it could have backfired so hard. Transcend claims to be masons with maria as scum. Town maria says he is lying. Transcend gets lynched. I don't see scum being so stupid.

Look how ridiculous this is. He was scumreading the trans/giga slot and then drops that scumread cause maria flips town and he believed that the only way trans could be scum is if him and maria were BOTH scum together.

Yet he never pushed for marias lynch, never scumread her, and had his vote on her counterwagon (where he voted WITH maria).

Tell me how that makes any sense?

Shadow_step · Post Post #1566 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 1:57 am

I don't understand why you are asking me silly question? I obviously had a bigger scum read on Gerry.

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #1567 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:04 am

In post 1566, Shadow_step wrote:I don't understand why you are asking me silly question? I obviously had a bigger scum read on Gerry.

bigger than who?

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #1568 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:04 am

Like were u scumreading maria?

Shadow_step · Post Post #1569 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:05 am

Bigger than transcend

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #1570 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:06 am

In post 1569, Shadow_step wrote:Bigger than transcend

how does that have anything to do w/ what I said?

Were you scumreading maria?

Shadow_step · Post Post #1571 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:25 am

In post 1570, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 1569, Shadow_step wrote:Bigger than transcend
how does that have anything to do w/ what I said?

Were you scumreading maria?

Yes, to an extent.

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #1572 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:29 am

In post 1571, Shadow_step wrote:Yes, to an extent.

You never felt the need to mention this to anyone?

Or was this more strategic "lynchbaity play"?

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #1573 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:30 am

and "To an extent" is a bullshit answer. You would have had to be scumreading her just as hard as u were scumreading the trans/giga slot considering you felt that in order for trans to be scum, maria had to be also.

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #1574 (ISO) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:38 am

Just reposting this total contradiction.

In the first post he says the reason he didn't investigate giga is because he doesn't believe the result would be alignment indicative.

In the second post he says that the reason is because he's now townreading Giga.

In post 1529, Shadow_step wrote:I don't get what I would get investigating Giga like you are saying? It would just prove she is ascetic, it wouldn't be alignment indicative.

In post 1558, Shadow_step wrote:Maria flipping town ofc, it is very ballsy play to claim being masons who are not your buddy and trying to protect them.I mean it could have backfired so hard. Transcend claims to be masons with maria as scum. Town maria says he is lying. Transcend gets lynched. I don't see scum being so stupid.