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Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:46 pm

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In post 1188, Dragonfire wrote:
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Dragonfire wrote: Well the issue is that when I am lynched and flip town, you'll probably be next, as I won't be around to argue against your lynch and most people seem to think either you or I is scum. So I'd rather not die, knowing that my death will likely cause the death of another townie. I would be fine with my lynch if you agreed to lynch DDD tomorrow after my flip, but it seems like that's not going to happen.
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DDD wrote: It wasn't forever, it was like a day and why would scum need to change their mind? Changing your mind and lynching a townie looks awful, look how much shit everyone is giving GL for it. Why would scum who were safely ensconced on their wagons of choice feel the need to do anything when GL was going to have to decide and take the fall for them?
So you're implying that you know GL is town... only scum know others' alignment for sure. You might have slipped there.
^just to point out that Dragon did a thing he thinks is scummy.
Not like Town never do that, but...
This is a misrep. If you looked closely at my post, you'd have seen the word "likely" in there. I said that my death would likely cause another townie's death, because copper was likely town to me at that point, whereas DDD straight-up implied that he knew GL was town for certain.
don't like this defense from Dragonfire.

in context, the way you used "likely" reads like the "likely" event is copper getting lynched tomorrow, not copper being town. The way you're trying to argue that "likely" was supposed to be a modifier for your read on his alignment is using semantics to hide holes in your reasoning.

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Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:48 pm

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Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:53 pm

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In post 1149, Dragonfire wrote:
DDD wrote: Why do you care what Jae thinks?
Because he wants Jae to unvote you and go after me, duh.
also this is really scummy

a) answering a question aimed at me to take control of the narrative before I have a chance to reply
b) jumping in to answer to DDD here doesn't make any logical sense. If Dragon is townreading Jae/scumreading DDD, then I'm presumably scum-by-association for trying to derail the DDD wagon. But in that case why does he feel the need to point that out to DDD, who would be my hypothetical scumpartner? This is a post that scum makes when they're jumping in and snarking, and not actually thinking through associatives or alignments of the players involved.
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Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:08 pm

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This is bad

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Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:39 pm

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Im fine w a gm Lynch let's go guys
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Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:41 pm

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VOTE: gm
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Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:52 pm

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no gm lynch is bad
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Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:57 pm

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OK switch to gl

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Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:17 am

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VOTE COUNT 2.6


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(3) JaeReed, Accountant, Dragonfire,
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Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:29 am

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In post 1232, ironstove wrote:OK switch to gl

VOTE: GL
iron, you're trying to compromise with the wrong people. Bouncing between lynches dargon and Jae find acceptable but less acceptable than my own isn't going to push things to five votes. You need to come and talk with the people you're voting for, accept that you may be mistaken about them, let us show you that you are misguided and together we can push things forward.

Oh and Dargon, I'm done with you. I was only arguing with you trying to get Accountant or iron to see how awful and scummy your arguments were and how there's literally no argument that holds up against me but clearly it hasn't worked; so since you only argue in bad faith and I don't want to engage in that particular theater of the damned anymore, adios.
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Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:45 am

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Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:46 am

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come and talk with the people you're voting for, accept that you may be mistaken about them, let us show you that you are misguided and together we can push things forward.
iron/DDD scum team?
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Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:13 am

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Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:17 am

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In post 1236, Accountant wrote:
come and talk with the people you're voting for, accept that you may be mistaken about them, let us show you that you are misguided and together we can push things forward.
iron/DDD scum team?
Sure, did the same thing for GL, did something similar for GM.

Holy shit guys, I've figured it out. I'm not mafia. I'm a cult leader. And apparently a very fast working one since I've already got two minions under my control and now with my inevitable pull on iron we're taking over. What a weird setup for a newbie game, cult leaders and quad-cops. Remarkable.
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Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:18 am

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goodmorning, "Debonair Danny DiPietro don't be silly"
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Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:21 am

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In post 1228, Accountant wrote:This is bad

Don't lynch dragon
In post 1231, Accountant wrote:no gm lynch is bad
In post 1220, Accountant wrote:Do any of the ppl voting dragon have a response to copper's post about why dragon is town
I have a question for you: at the end of yesterday, just after copper was hammered, you had me at almost certain town; now I'm in your 'scum bucket'. What changed since then?
In post 1223, goodmorning wrote:No reason for Scum not to do it - nobody believes what the universal scumread says or acts on it in any way, and as an added bonus he gets to hold the WK card if copper does go down, as looked pretty inevitable at that point.

Or he could have done what copper suggests there - suddenly reverse himself and put copper at L-1 as if nobody here thinks inconsistency is a scumtell.

Weirdly, I don't think Dragon is that stupid.
Thanks, I always like it when my intelligence is insulted... it's just a game :shifty:
In post 1225, GuiltyLion wrote:don't like this defense from Dragonfire.

in context, the way you used "likely" reads like the "likely" event is copper getting lynched tomorrow, not copper being town. The way you're trying to argue that "likely" was supposed to be a modifier for your read on his alignment is using semantics to hide holes in your reasoning.

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Well I haven't really got anything to say for that since you've only got my word for it that that's what I meant by "likely". If I placed the word incorrectly in the sentence then I apologise, but I was definitely referring to copper being "likely" town, although at that point in time I did actually think that there was almost zero chance of him being scum; I still included the possibility though.

Also, don't try and say that I'm using semantics to hide the holes in my reasoning. If I'm lying about it, then I'm scum and I scumslipped. Either you accept that, whatever alignment I am, I'm telling the truth about this, or you follow what GM said and call it a scumslip. Don't try to waffle your way into voting me without a good hard reason.
In post 1227, GuiltyLion wrote: a) answering a question aimed at me to take control of the narrative before I have a chance to reply
b) jumping in to answer to DDD here doesn't make any logical sense. If Dragon is townreading Jae/scumreading DDD, then I'm presumably scum-by-association for trying to derail the DDD wagon. But in that case why does he feel the need to point that out to DDD, who would be my hypothetical scumpartner? This is a post that scum makes when they're jumping in and snarking, and not actually thinking through associatives or alignments of the players involved.
Have I ever said that you're DDD's scum partner? Unlike others, I'm not locking you in as scum; personally I think DDD's scum partner is most likely to be GM, followed by you and jon with an outside chance of Accountant. Don't try and call me scum because I'm not calling you scum, that doesn't make sense. And you never denied that that was your motive for saying that to Jae; that was your legitimate reason, so don't accuse me of trying to take control of the narrative when you haven't even answered his point yourself.
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Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:27 am

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**In my last post, I accidentally forgot to reply to the top quote and the second quote down (from Accountant about gm) wasn't meant to be there, so please ignore it.

ironstove, get back on DDD. We're not lynching GM or GL today. I don't know what you're trying to accomplish here, but if you think DDD is town then please give us your reasoning.
In post 1234, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote: Oh and Dargon, I'm done with you. I was only arguing with you trying to get Accountant or iron to see how awful and scummy your arguments were and how there's literally no argument that holds up against me but clearly it hasn't worked; so since you only argue in bad faith and I don't want to engage in that particular theater of the damned anymore, adios.
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come and talk with the people you're voting for, accept that you may be mistaken about them, let us show you that you are misguided and together we can push things forward.
iron/DDD scum team?
No way. iron would never go after DDD in such a way if they were scum together.
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Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:57 am

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DDD that's not even close to the most ridiculous thing anyone's said this game
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Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:58 am

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Vote: Dragon


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Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:58 am

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Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:14 am

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GUYS, GM IS SCUM, REFUSES TO LYNCH DDD, SCUM TEAM IS DDD/GM. GAME IS SOLVED. THANK YOU. GOOD BYE.

VOTE: LYNCH DDD
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Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:15 am

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JON GET OVER TO THE TOWN SIDE AND VOTE DDD.
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Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:41 am

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GUYS, IRON IS SCUM, REFUSES TO LYNCH DRAGON, SCUMTEAM IS DRAGON/IRON. GAME IS SOLVED. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.
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Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:00 am

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In post 1245, ironstove wrote:GUYS, GM IS SCUM, REFUSES TO LYNCH DDD, SCUM TEAM IS DDD/GM. GAME IS SOLVED. THANK YOU. GOOD BYE.

VOTE: LYNCH DDD
In post 1247, goodmorning wrote:GUYS, IRON IS SCUM, REFUSES TO LYNCH DRAGON, SCUMTEAM IS DRAGON/IRON. GAME IS SOLVED. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.
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Post Post #1249 (ISO) » Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:09 am

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In all seriousness, DDD and I are now both at L-1. While I would obviously like DDD lynched, since I know I'm town, I'm wondering whether it might be more optimal to lynch me, since this is our only chance for a mislynch before we get into MyLo / LyLo, and I would rather die now and get rid of a future distraction for town, than wind up as easy lynchbait for the scumteam in MyLo or LyLo. In the offchance I'm wrong about DDD and he gets lynched, I'm basically going to get insta-lynched tomorrow so that will be game over for us.
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