Mini Normal 1827 - No Flavor Mafia (Game Over)

[Naomi-Tan]

sigh... I can't delay this without it being obvious; I bluffed ealier to make scum feel safe to claim VT; but I got a positive on Vedith for non-VT

[Io]

sigh... I can't delay this without it being obvious; I bluffed ealier to make scum feel safe to claim VT; but I got a positive on Vedith for non-VT

To be fair I thought you had it on Rach.

[RachMarie]

VOTE: vedith

[Io]

At least wait for his claim to see what he says,

[Transcend]

Meh.

V claim.

[Titus]

sigh... I can't delay this without it being obvious; I bluffed ealier to make scum feel safe to claim VT; but I got a positive on Vedith for non-VT

That would be justification for Vedith to claim first and you couldn't single him out. It makes sense a bit.

[Naomi-Tan]

would of worked well if I could of delayed it. but If I tried any more it would of been a bit obvious with the pressure.

[Transcend]

Okay so Nay being Neapolitan doesn't make sense because like I've said, I've never seen a Neapolitan on the town side besides in Role Madness games. I think having a Neapolitan for town would be too stacked since VT is the most common scumclaim.

However, sans BlackStar for obvious reasons, she's been my best townread all game, and her checks seem to correlate with her foses. I don't know man. I'm not interested in lynching Nay yet. I have been wrong about my heaviest townreads before and I probably need to sleep with one eye open.

[Vedith]

I'm still V LA until Monday just for the record.
VOTE: Naomi

I am calling her out as I am only VT.
The fact Naomi has already said she wants to vote me regardless means that she will say tomorrow that she lied as she just wanted me lynched.

Naomi is confirmed scum now like I've been saying all game.

[Naomi-Tan]

VOTE: Vedith So.. yeah I'm town and Neo and this is a dumbass scum move by Vedith so... Looks like we're in a one on one now.

[Transcend]

Oh dear lord

Looks like at least one of my town reads is confirmed scum.

V - since someone you know is scum is an investigative role with me do you think I'm more likely to be town now?

[Transcend]

Nay - was it a coincidence that you popped on when Vedith claimed? Because i gave a post right before it that i want you to respond to.

[Transcend]

And it's been sitting there all night. 4 minutes after Vedith claims, you pop up.

[Transcend]

Also T if you had a protective or blocking ability that effected the n1 kill I'd claim it now, as you're the only person left who would.

If T doesn't have such an ability then i believe that creature is bluffing (most likely as town) since two town killing roles seems implausible to me.

[Naomi-Tan]

Your post was directed at me? I thought it was just a general observation sorry;

I dunno how to really respond to it. your saying there can't be this role that I am in this game. I guess I could look up the normal rules and see if Its on there. but even then the games allow one non-normal role in the rule set. :/ I tend to refresh every so often though. which is why my responses tend to be rather frequent. To my knowellege we are not in LYLO anyway so this is a dumb move by Scum. I will flip town and Vedith gets lynched tomorrow. Or they get lynched today either way works for me. If he is lying as town then he is a jackass who will cause this game to be a loss just because he believes i'm scum. (As I have thought of this and wouldn't put it past him)

I guess neo is kinda balanced in the game as I'm more likely to out a PR than I am to find scum TBH :/ least until a mass claim happened and I can start looking into the VT claims. Like yesterday when I outted KTS. (though at the time I thought his BP claim was totally fake which it turns out it was) If he had claimed body guard I'd been more likely to trust it (as I feel BP is much more powerful than body guard) But this is all speculation I dunno what went through the mods head. I do think that maybe one of the claims was false but thats just my gut read,

[Transcend]

Hmm.

I kinda have a feeling creature is bluffing vig and either io or Titus is the other mafia. I don't see you and V being scum together. And rach's slot has been fairly obvious town.

[Naomi-Tan]

Hmm.

I kinda have a feeling creature is bluffing vig and either io or Titus is the other mafia. I don't see you and V being scum together. And rach's slot has been fairly obvious town.

Okay saw this in my ISO of Vedith providing a list of normal any alignment roles
"Roles which are explicitly Normal for any alignment include:
Bodyguard, Commuter, Sane Cop, Doctor, Follower, Gunsmith, Jack of All Trades, Jailkeeper, Motion Detector, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Roleblocker, Rolecop, Rolestopper, Tracker, Universal Backup, Vanilla Cop, Voyeur, Watcher"

So it is a role that can be either moving on;

Me and V being scum together is impossible given our counter claims. I will give out some facts about vedith though to help those trying to decide who to lynch.

Day 1
Vedith rail roaded Blackstar (confirmed town) until the point where he killed light.
He was not on that days lynch target.

Day 2
Then starts pushing on a bunch of people softly including; KTS(Confirmed town), Skelda(Confirmed town), myself (I know im town) and Seraphim(currently controlled by RachMarie) and Trans *This is taking from a list of people he was open to lynch Day 1 and his poking of KTS
He was also not on yesterdays lynch target.

Despite not being on either lynch target as far as I can see he didn't try and stop the trains either. Unlike myself who was vocal about not liking either of these lynches.

and over all he hasn't really given many town reads. as far as I can tell his town pool is; Creature and Blitz.

[Creature]

VOTE: Vedith

I am not sure how many votes on him there are, so count before you vote.

[Creature]

I'd rather keep Naomi-Tan and Transcend alive for now.

[Transcend]

I have an idea

It requires us to put on our scum hunting caps

But the end result is pretty neat if done correctly.

There's direct ccs (Vedith and Naomi)

Assuming there's 1 scum left outside of those two, we lynch outside.

If we are correct today, it will be town auto win as Vedith and Naomi can be lynched in any order since we have 8 alive. Lynching scum leaves 7 alive and 1 scum with direct ccs, which nets us two opportunities to lynch.

I don't really wanna sort v vs n right now and if we lynch right outside, we win.

[Transcend]

V is L-2 i believe. That's off of foggy memory. If v flips town then nay gets to sac any pr and i can't do shit about it since I'm watcher and she'll lead the kill as conf scum.

It's the same thing for v, n flips town and he gets a freebie.

[Creature]

And if we lynch incorrectly?

[Transcend]

And lynching the scum in v and n isn't super good honestly. I'll just get nk'ed and you still have a mess to figure out.

We need to figure out the mess today and go for auto win.

[Naomi-Tan]

And if we lynch incorrectly?

then you lynch the other target. the only way this can backfire is if Vedith is town and lied about a PR which I guess we'll get from his flip either way.

[Transcend]

Lynching incorrectly outside of v and n hurts a lot less than lynching incorrectly inside. Also, lynching correctly in them benefits a lot less than lynching correctly outside.