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Post Post #2350 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:38 pm

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nvm it isn't.
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Post Post #2351 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:40 pm

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Sadly I also tried to do a NKA but really it's pretty much clear that the night kills were dictated probably to keep Verdith alive as Kill and Massive both had pretty hard scum reads on Verdith.
NKA would have been great if Verdith was the last scum, but not much help as Naomi was just a pure necessary kill and the other 2 look very viable as a Verdith protection.
Honestly that means scum probably did in fact kill massive night 1.
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Post Post #2352 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:45 pm

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I'd bet my money that Creature got BG'd here honestly. He was implied JOAT or something even though he's just a 1-shot vig. I don't know who KTS bg'd n1, BlackStar would make the most sense, but he did not visit BlackStar. There's no roleblocker either (unless it's a scum joat with ninja,rb, some other power). I'm guessing he just skipped an action.
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Post Post #2353 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:49 pm

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Actually I kinda suggested it as a joke but Scum JOAT makes sense. Given we have 2 vigs, 2 investigatives and a protective that would inevitably go on one of them. Maybe there's a role cop, ninja, something hybrid. 2 goons and a ninja (most like x-shot) doesn't make much sense unless Dunn wants to hand town a free win lmfao.
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Post Post #2354 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:50 pm

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Role cop might've gone on KTS or roleblocker might've blocked KTS. Or I'm overanalyzing this and he just skipped a night action n1. IDK.
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Post Post #2355 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:06 pm

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I am a VT.

I didn't want to claim to try and bait a nightkill. If Transcend was town, scum would shoot me, either as doctor or as confirmable townie most likely.

I don't think Transcend sounds like scum but the repeated disingenuous attacks get old and make me doubt that. I think it's effective AtE.

Last scum is almost certainly in blackstar, creature, transcend, and RM. I don't see io as scum, particularly with the comment that Io needed pressure because she had none. Blackstar + Creature as a matter of common sense is a problem. Yet, Creature claiming that doesn't make sense. RM slot I have always had issue with, yet she would have difficulties killing Naomi so that points against her. Black star would be bastard to everyone else.

So yeah transcend.
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Post Post #2356 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:12 pm

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In post 459, Transcend wrote:Anyways bs'd reads #2

{Naomi, KTS}
{BlackStar}
{Massive, Io, Creature, Skelda}
{Jord, Pista}
{Light}
{Vedith, xyzzy}
I really need to stop doubting myself from what I get at the beginning of the game, but lately, my town play has only gotten better as the game has progressed and my initial foses were garbage.
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Post Post #2357 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:13 pm

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I'm openly inviting you to lynch me. I can't be alive in MYLO.
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Post Post #2358 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:16 pm

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You seem to be acting as if you know I am town?
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Post Post #2359 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:17 pm

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Nah, you're my best SR. Why aren't you lynching me if you think I'm scum? After all, I'm presenting the opportunity right in front of you.
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Post Post #2360 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:18 pm

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But in the event I'm wrong, and you are town, you need to flip me post haste.
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Post Post #2361 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:21 pm

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BS'd reads idk #6??

{BlackStar}
{Creature, Rach}
{Io}
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Post Post #2362 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:37 pm

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K I have work the next couple of days, so I'm not gonna be extremely helpful. I expect to get lynched which is fine, I think it's beneficial and I'm not too sure if my power will be useful anymore. Titus the next day.
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Post Post #2363 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:50 pm

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In post 2348, Io wrote:So here's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to weigh up each player individually on VCA and reads and see if I can't solve the game now.
Though I'm getting tired I'll be doing Creature and Trans today.

positives = Reasons they are scum.
negatives = Reasons they are not scum.
Spoiler: Creature
Positives -

Guessing that Trans would claim Mafia Ninja killed Naomi.
Immediately voting Trans before hearing their results. Could have been a slip as they knew the results if scum.
Lack of mafia night 1 kill if his claim is to believed.

Negatives -

Light. Light had practically spearheaded a Creature lynch day 1 and refused to get off of the wagon until shot. This and Light had hard scum read Verdith and Creature and a mafia having a hard scum read on both of their members and having them as their only scum reads day 1 is really not believable.
The claim is rather absurd from a Mafia Ninja. If anything a Goon would have claimed that not the Ninja.

Personal decision:

Creature cannot be scum. Light's associations practically clear him


Spoiler: Trans
Positives -

That night result. Yeah pretty suspicious to say the least.
2 investigatives and one already dead.

Negatives -

My person experience with Trans leads me to see that this is not his normal scum play.
Verdith was more willing to lynch Trans on day 2 over Exp which was the town's main wagon leads me to not see that as a viable bus option on his part.

Personal decision:

I don't think he is scum. I would rather not lynch him today even for the information.


VOTE: Titus
I'm going to bed now.
Though I will say from the VCA though I had only time to post 2 of them so far I believe he is scum based on the voting patterns of pistachi0n. This may change by further in depth look of him, but I believe him to be the Mafia Ninja.
There's a flaw in your argument for why transcend isn't scum. You said Vedith was pushing him hard on day 2 so they can't be partners. But Transcend was town read by most people at that point. Vedith knew that the wagon wasn't going to gain any traction. And even if it did that would just earn him town cred for getting a scum lynched. So that's not a compelling argument for transcend being town. It just looks like distancing. And their distancing was even more apparent on day 3. Transcend is just using reverse psychology on you right now and for some reason you're buying into it.
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Post Post #2364 (ISO) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:59 pm

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It's not reverse psychology. I literally need to die or I will be lynched so fast in MYLO. You need to make good use of the MYLO tomorrow which is why you can blow the mislynch on me.
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Post Post #2365 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:01 am

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And also my role is useless since there's a ninja. So no harm done, really.
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Post Post #2366 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:06 am

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You're telling us to lynch you which is making people not want to lynch you. That's reverse psychology. They think "there's no way scum would say that", so you're getting off scot free
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Post Post #2367 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:10 am

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Bro.

I need to die.

This is not wifom or reverse psychology.

I need death.

In the form of a lynch.
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Post Post #2368 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:14 am

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Just keep the lynch on me, I think my reads are really good as I had 2 scum in the bottom two tiers of my initial reads lists. Titus is probably last scum and I trust you to lynch her for me on MYLO.
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Post Post #2369 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:35 am

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Alright, let's do this

VOTE: titus

If Titus doesn't flip scum then we'll lynch you tomorrow
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Post Post #2370 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:59 am

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*L-1
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Post Post #2371 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:49 am

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I fail to see a reason why one more vote on Titus doesn't end the game but i still think i should be flipped first.
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Post Post #2372 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:53 am

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For me this reads, if this lynch is right, then town will win the game.

If it's wrong, prepare to be speed wagoned in 4way.
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Post Post #2373 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:16 am

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guess Creature being a JOAT with a Rolecop, vig, and ninja might make somewhat sense but really the Light thing is enough to make me confident it's not him.
Plus Titus leaving virtually everyone open for possible scum seams more likely for scum to do that than town as it leaves options for lynch open, and town at this point in the game needs to be doing PoE to make town reads to narrow the possible scum down.
We have a single mislynch we need to agree on no more than 3 possible scum and we really want it to between 2 likely people and at most 1 other 3rd backup.
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Post Post #2374 (ISO) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:18 am

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Scum vig is bastard right?
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