Mini Normal 1829 - Game Over

[karnos]

why should i be attacking players who don't post readlists again..? you telling me who i ""should"" be suspecting is very reminiscent of 646 btw

Okay, this seems to be going over your head, so let me explain it as simply as possible.

Scale of 1-10. A detailed wall of a readlist with no obvious logical errors is a 10. A plain ranger style list is a 5. My list is what, maybe a 3 or 4 in your opinion?

Now, no list at all, what is that on a scale of 1-10? Is it a 10? No. Is it a 5? No. It's a 1. No read list at all is the worst possible read list in terms of sharing reads.


So the question is, if you are attacking me for having a poor read list, maybe a 3/10, why aren't you attacking the players who had no read list at all, 1/10? Are you bias against me? Or is the readlist a red herring of some sort, and you really wanted me lynched for some other reason?

[Shadow_step]

I read that as "who do I vig tonight, do i vig karnos?" not as in him asking me my opinion.

But obviously if we lynch shadow, vig giga.

That's obviously what he meant, but that is what you got from that like WTF

NC claimed to be 2 shot vig and he is asking whether he should vig you N3.

[chilledtea]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT 3.03

karnos (L-3) : Shadow_step, kraska77.

Shadow_step (L-3) : gigabyteTroubadour, karnos.

Thor665 (L-4) : Nero Cain.

Not Voting (3) : Thor665, Elyse, MichelSableheart.

Day will end in (expired on 2016-10-01 18:30:00)

[karnos]

I read that as "who do I vig tonight, do i vig karnos?" not as in him asking me my opinion.

But obviously if we lynch shadow, vig giga.

That's obviously what he meant, but that is what you got from that like WTF

NC claimed to be 2 shot vig and he is asking whether he should vig you N3.

What I got is that you were quoting nero for no obvious reason and the quote had my name in it and you were doing it while I was active posting, so it looked like you thought he was asking me and you wanted my response.

If not, then why did you quote it like that at the bottom of a post without responding to the quote?

[Shadow_step]

paranoid doctors =/= jailkeepers

the former is told they're a normal doctor and is bastard, latter is considered a different role

It is the same fucking role just with a different name because it is not bastard, no where does it say that they have guns. When you click on the link which says "Doctors" it contains this JK role which cannot be caught by gunsmith.

[karnos]

"There is no consensus in regards to whether an X-Shot Vigilante loses one of its ability uses if it is Roleblocked while trying to kill someone."

[Shadow_step]

If not, then why did you quote it like that at the bottom of a post without responding to the quote?

I have already said what I think about it, how about you read the bloody thread!!

Just brilliant, you are lying to get me lynched, you know what's gonna happen after I flip town? Town's gonna mislynch you dumbass.
NC probably holstered n1 and he's just being cocky about me being scum.

Ebwop

So now I'm lying? That was a quick change of heart

Yeah youve been on this site since 09, don't tell me you thought your shot would actually get refunded since others who have joined late know that that's not normal. You obviously holstered n1 and this is a stupid gambit.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

???

If a player is clear with their thoughts there's no need for a readlist.... So I have zero issue with ppl who don't post them.

I also don't see detailed readlists in the same plane as ranger style ones. They have completely motivations behind them, both generally pro-town.

so the fact you have to quantify this seems kind of trite.. I'd give your readlist a 2/10 personally though, mostly because i was expecting more reasoning when I looked at the post at a glance and instead got fluff.

i'll ask chilledtea about jailkeepers later <_<

[gigabyteTroubadour]

*completely different motivations

[Nero Cain]

I prob don't have a shot since I didn't understand that shot failed=loss of shot. But I think Shadows "this is a gambit!" reaction is p fake.

[Shadow_step]

Then what should my reaction be, "Holy shit, you are lying scum??"

[Nero Cain]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=X-Shot

"X-Shot roles that are roleblocked should not be refunded their shots"

So if I was roleblocked then I don't have a shot and if it wasn't an RB I guess I still have one.

[Shadow_step]

OMG you gotta be fucking kidding me, so you think if your shot failed because of a doc you will be refunded it?

[Shadow_step]

Playing with a noob is better than this. Seriously this is beyond dumb.

[Nero Cain]

Then what should my reaction be, "Holy shit, you are lying scum??"

Yes, at least that would make more sense.

[Shadow_step]

buzz off, liar. You better dig yourself a hole to hide yourself in after my flip.

[Nero Cain]

Why would I lie about targeting you?

[Shadow_step]

Yes, at least that would make more sense.

I was referring to this as a lie.

Also because town lie all the time to get who they are scum reading, lynched.
It's not something unheard of.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

"When a Game Moderator uses these roles as sanities, the player receiving the role is usually only told his/her role is Doctor. Sometimes sanity is revealed upon death, but frequently not, leading to ambiguity if a Doctor is killed early in the game."

Sanities are bastard, Shadow, reread the page. Also...

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jailkeeper

it straight up SAYS what i've been saying...

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Gunsmith

and here note the "all mafia roles (except doctor and traitor)"

You're only arguing this because you know that a "paranoid doctor" is the only way a scumteam without you makes sense at this point (unless one of Thor/Karnos is a 1-Shot Roleblocker or smth)

[gigabyteTroubadour]

why would a jailkeeper target town!shadow? rbing nero I can see, but why Shadow?

[Shadow_step]

I never said I was targetted duh, I said he was targetted. You have fallen in the tunnel so much that you are twisting facts

[kraska77]

Haven't caught up but shadow obviously hasn't been jailed
Didn't he get a result on night 1
Nero either got blocked/jailed or shadow was docced
I think In the case Nero the jailed, his shot is still there

[Shadow_step]

Shots are never refunded no matter how they are lost ^^

[kraska77]

Nero got jailed*
By if shadow was protected then he's out of shots
Pedit: but if ure jailed its like u never actioned at all

[kraska77]

But* if shadow
sorey I'm !^^@&#^