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[BlackStar]

being unsure of which one is scum most definitely does not make me scum Black

It's easy to fake that. And you don't really feel unsure. When did I even say that you were unsure so you're scum?

[RachMarie]

the nk on N1 is so bizarre

The claim bothers me though especially with a mod verified one shot day vig

his snarky comments on me trying to cast shade on me making it seem like I am trying to avoid the game when he bloody well knows I am on V/LA and overall my posting has gone way down site wide, save for mostly non game threads which do not require the same amount of energy, time, or effort.

I would say creature is more likely than tran

but I also see points for tran.

So gun to head would be creature

[Creature]

Why would scum push a nolynch?

[BlackStar]

I don't think scum!Rach would push a NL though.

We've all revealed our reads. Plus I mentioned the gambit I had in mind when I agreed to the no lynch yesterday. If we do it again today then scum can finally kill me off and push the last 2 townies to try and lynch each other

[RachMarie]

I don't want to pick the wrong one and cost us the bloody game Black, I hate MYLO/LYLO

[BlackStar]

I don't want to pick the wrong one and cost us the bloody game Black, I hate MYLO/LYLO

We'd still be in that same situation after a no lynch. We might as well gamble and lynch someone today

[Creature]

Anyone tried to see how the other scum interacted with Transcend/RachMarie/me?

[Creature]

Also, if you're paranoid, or feel you're going to be paranoid of me, you can put a wagon to L-1 and I'll end this paranoia.

Still wished this.

[RachMarie]

VOTE: Creature

uggh I hope I picked right

going with gun to head.

[Transcend]

Hi

I'm gonna post short one liners. I shouldn't be using my phone at work, but this game is getting down to the nitty gritty.

Rach: can you give points for both of us? I'm trying to decide if your waffling is genuine or if you're refusing to commit to a read.

[Creature]

Nah you didn't.

[Creature]

But really, nobody's familiar with my play?

[BlackStar]

I really think it's Rach

[Transcend]

How certain on a scale of 1-10?

[RachMarie]

tran what do you think of my responses to your questions? And my vote?

[BlackStar]

How certain on a scale of 1-10?

6.5

[Transcend]

Rach:

Your answers to my questions were ok. Not as direct as i wanted, but what can you do.

Your vote is correct if you're town and rn I'm somewhat inclined to trust you.

Can you answer what your thought processes were when you made your choice?

[RachMarie]

basically I am thinking maybe they picked massive so he could claim the 1 shot night vig, and make it believable? Plus the other things I mentioned. Plus his wanting to get someone L-1 seems fishy.

Your meltdown when we ended up lynching Titus seemed genuine. Though watcher can be either alignment.

[Transcend]

Caught a break thank fuck

Rach: fair enough. I swear to Heaven above that I'm not a scum watcher. <3

Black: right now, i don't think rach is scum. It doesn't look like you're extremely confident either so when you get a chance can you please read my quote walls that i made on creature? I might force another nl if you keep the lynch on rach since i tend to trust myself over others.

Creature: what's up with the constant waffling? Your thought process doesn't look genuine here.

[Transcend]

I'm home now and i have the next two days off
Praise Baby Jesus.

[Transcend]

Will be awake for the next 8-ish hours if anyone wants to talk.

[Transcend]

Spoiler: Jordarrian

Jordarrian.

T O P K E K

Jordarrian

Someone got a guilty on you.

Nice try, I read the thread.

This was the first bad post that Jorda made and I partially voted him because my best tr at the time (KTS) asked me to vote him and partially because of this line.

VOTE: Jordarrian

VOTE: jordarrian

VOTE: Jordarrian

I love how this entire wagon just happened with no question whatsoever

I parked my vote here for a while because this response was pretty meh. However I wasn't sure if it was bad because he was newb town or newb scum. Regardless, I kept the vote for pressure.

he freaked out a lot at a relatively quick wagon, more than is reasonable for a wagon out of nowhere day 1. I dislike that reaction.

It just seemed funny that kill says to wagon me, then all of a sudden 3 others do it with no comments about it.

He victimizes himself again, basically paraphrasing the post above. Would he victimize himself this much as scum? I didn't really think so so I put him in the null town tier.

1. xyzzy

2. Transcend

3. light_ganski
4. massive

5. Jordarrian
6. Killthestory
7. BlackStar
8. Creature

9. Skelda
10. Vedith
11. pistachi0n
12. Io

13. Naomi-Tan

What is this

When the lolbw dissipates on Jorda, I think he was genuinely trying to game solve. I think him questioning Creature's list here was somewhat towny.

Then from here, the player vanished and moved into my null tier as others towned it up a bit.

Conclusion: Based on Jordarrian, I can see the way he played being done by either newb town or newb scum, but my gut tells me newb town.

[Transcend]

Spoiler: Seraphim

I'm sorry my predecessor sucked. I will try my damnedest to be a forthright member of the town, full of insight and good arguments. I

I'm about 20 pages in and almost caught up but I'm fairly convinced we should lynch light. Pretty obvious target for obvscum and a good D1 lynch regardless.

Transcend is town for having a lot of the same reads as me (not identical, but close enough as I read that I can feel his thought process).

Naomi is town b/c her playstyle is basically impossible to fake as scum. I was reading the game and figured this was the case and took a gander at her scum games and was basically proven correct. Transcend was convinced early on that Naomi was a gimmick account and while her posting style (i.e. as a 16-year old girl) is fairly annoying, I actually think she is acting like that which means that as scum it will be nearly impossible to replicate. Which means that she's town in this game, otherwise her posting would look way more fake.

Creature is also town and I would put down money that there is at least one scum on the Creature wagon. Light jumps out as an obvious candidate for a few reasons.

Here we see a textbook example of bullshit scum post. This is not a real case. It's not even a real PBPA. It's just a summary of posting with the word scummy thrown in now and again for shits and giggles.

This post sucks. Site meta must really be going down the tubes when a post like this doesn't get bandwagoned straight out the gate.

This post is exactly the sort of distancing tactic I would expect from scum with daytalk. In fact, the whole Vedith/light interaction on pages 19-20 stinks of two scum players coordinating a distancing interaction, not just that single post. Highly recommended reading.

Obviously I think Vedith is scum too and I think a Vedith/light_ganski scumteam is incredibly likely simply based on their interactions above.

Unvote
Vote: light_ganski

P-EDIT: no I am not ignoring the thread, likely I was looking at my phone. I try not to post from my phone, but I do use my phone to keep abreast of game events while working to post from my computer. I will only post from my phone if I have the time/patience to type it out and it's a short response. A big grand catch up post is not going to get done on my phone.

This was a very good opening post which includes 2 of the flipped scum members. It was the fuel that started the train on light which led to her ultimately being day-vigged.

Hahahaha holy shit. I feel REALLY good after that. BlackStar you are my fucking hero. Hahahaha.

Vote: Vedith

And when light flips he immediately votes Vedith. Would he bus both of his scum partners this early? I really doubt it.

Bullshit. Jor was a bad new player not used to Mafiascum conventions. He would have been coached in the PT.

"valid"

Unvote
Vote: xyzzy

Well his vote did flip to xyzzy, but I don't think it was a bad vote at all. I don't remember what point of the day his vote flipped, but I do remember that Vedith had town told a little bit and xyzzy was scumming all over the place.

At most I have been at L-3 (maybe I was at L-2) so I refuse to claim. I'm tired of dealing with Blitz and I'm utterly baffled that anyone would trust someone who thinks it's a good idea to lynch confirmed town and tunnel the person who pushed the Light lynch hardest. Xyzzy outed themselves when they sheeped her.

This victimization post and trashing of Titus reads really genuine. Possibly might have been gaining towncred for the light death but ehhhh I doubt it.

From Sera's ISO I'm fairly sure his actions weren't scum motivated and I think I can trust Rach for sure.

[Transcend]

Would still G2H C here. Right now that lynch is impossible to make though.

[BlackStar]

whats's G2H C?