Mini Normal 1827 - No Flavor Mafia (Game Over)

[Transcend]

BlackStar is mechanically confirmed town fwiw. He has hammer on Creature right now.

[Transcend]

Case me brah.

[Creature]

The massive kill, the KTS kill, the Io kill. None points towards Rach.

[Creature]

Open 646.

[Transcend]

I was willing to town block with massive d1 since he wanted to lynch xyzzy with me.

KTS most likely bodyguarded BlackStar, but if he was just normal hit, I think he tr'd me anyways.

Io was killed because BlackStar said I was being lynched if Titus flipped town.

So uh nice try?

[Transcend]

What of my open 646 game points to me being scum here? Io (the person in the GY) said that this game of mine was nothing like Open 646.

[Transcend]

Idrc if you fos me, I just love proving you wrong. <3

[Creature]

lol no

As town you have a bunch of crazy plans [mini 1823), as scum you're just so smooth (open 646).

[Transcend]

LOL

I flailed the entire time pursuing vanity lynches that never went through. I never tried to game solve I was just playing survivalistic since my partner got roped d1 and I had to survive 5 lynches.

Lynching outisde of Naomi/Vedith could've been considered my crazy plan tbh.

Please keep trying to meta me, because I really cannot be.

[Transcend]

If anything this game of mine right now is a lot more like Mini 1823 because my gambit d1 failed and I lynched myself because I fucked up so royally.

I literally did the same thing this game, my gambit failed, and I encouraged myself to be lynched.

[Creature]

"flailed"

No you were playing like here in the end.

[Transcend]

I flailed that entire 3 way and it got me lynched lol.

[Creature]

That 1v1 with mhsmith wasn't flailing.

[Transcend]

Spoiler: Flail City

im surprised you didn't try to lynch me super hard earlier after you saw how lynchbaity i was in your mini mhsmith

pedit: i have legitimately 2 wins out of god knows how many games on this site as town.

I WILL NOT LOSE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i feel i've been fairly clear as well.

PLEASE GIVE INTENT TO HAMMER

I WILL BE GIVING YOU THE MOST DISGUSTING ATE IF YOU THINK ABOUT HAMMERING ME

IM

NOT

LOSING

THIS

GAME

AFTER

REDEEMING

MYSELF

SO

WELL

I'm not losing this fucking game and I will not let you lynch me. You will be lynching mhsmith.

This is single handedly the hardest I've tried in a mafia game, and there's no way in hell I'm letting you mishammer after all my efforts. Especially because you beefed the hammer yesterday and would've won had you listened to ya boi.

Again I don't want you to think I will hate you post game if you mishammer Giga. I value our friendship it means a lot to me. I wouldn't trade it for the world. I will have you know I will be genuinely upset if you waffle YET AGAIN to your demise. You waffled on KTS and lynched him...... mislynched. You waffled on PC and lynched him............ mislynched. You waffled on Tenshii and lynched him........ mislynched. You're about to waffle on me and mislynch me. Shouldn't 3 times of waffling and mislynching be a lesson to you? You got scum lynched d1. I spaghetti'd d1. You're obviously a very good player Giga with very good early reads. Your participation and effort recently declined due to other factors. I can say with great certainty that your townread on me was on point. You really need to trust yourself from what your initial thoughts were. Like I will not stop tantalizing you post game if you lynch me and that was the fourth time you waffled and fucked up.

GIGA.

IM GETTING FUCKING BORED.

THE DESIRE TO SELF HAMMER RIGHT NOW IS REALLY HIGH SINCE I ALREADY KNOW FINAL SCUM AND I WANT TO SEE THE SCUM PT AND THE DEAD PT ALREADY.

MY DESIRE FOR WINNING IS LESSENING QUITE A BIT BECAUSE YOU ARE DOING NOTHING ABOUT THE SITUATION.

CAN YOU PLEASE WORK YOUR WAY TO A DECISION!?!?!?

[Creature]

How many players would've voted mhsmith over you there?

[Transcend]

Io, Tenshii, Iraona

3 I believe.

How is that relevant?

My flailing is good as scum. Just didn't quite charm Giga

[Creature]

RachMarie, why aren't you commenting?

[Transcend]

DW Creature, I've had shittier cases made on me than that one. I'd give that a solid D+ in effort.

[Creature]

Nobody actually takes "he's very deceptive as scum" as a valid case.

[Transcend]

Spoiler: Creature / massive / Vedith d1

DISCLAIMER: I am being lazy as f*** and using the ctrl+F function. But I'm comparing his tunnel on massive vs. his tunnel on Vedith and his vig shot.

Creature says he was going to "shoot Vedith n1 but changed to massive"

Before he posted for the first time, his tunnel on massive was based on not being there at all. Then after massive posts, he only has him on lists, nothing like a case or anything.

1. xyzzy
2. Transcend

3. light_ganski
4. massive
5. Seraphim
6. Killthestory

7. BlackStar
8. Creature

9. Skelda
10. Vedith

11. Blitzkrieg
12. Io
13. Naomi-Tan

1. xyzzy
2. Transcend

3. light_ganski - Null
4. massive - Null
5. Seraphim - Null
6. Killthestory - Scummy

7. BlackStar
8. Creature

9. Skelda - Scummy
10. Vedith - Scummy

11. Blitzkrieg
12. Io
13. Naomi-Tan

light_ganski
massive
Killthestory
Skelda
Vedith
Io

Io
Seraphim
Skelda
massive
Vedith

Currently seeing these as scum candidates.

xyzzy
massive
Seraphim
Killthestory
Skelda
Vedith

Hopefully these don't live to LyLo (unless they're somewhat confirmed).

This is literally every post that Creature said that mentioned massive's name once he posted. Absolutely. Nothing.

Now here's his tunnel on Vedith. It's a lot heavier. It has (decent) reasoning to it

UNVOTE:

Skelda/pistachi0n/massive

Believe me or not, I am scum reading all of them already.

If not them, then Vedith

.

Fun fact, this post includes 3 lynchbaits and then he puts Vedith as a "if they're not scum" option.

light_ganski
massive
Vedith
pistachi0n

Would easily wagon any of these

I can at least make a proper case against light_ganski and Vedith, aka they're hiding in the shadow.

He's prob distancing Vedith here.

Town!Vedith wouldn't take so long to start posting content and then proceed to tunnel someone.

I suspect distancing in post 140, probably Vedith.

However then he begins to build a case on Vedith.

VOTE: Vedith

It looks like light and Vedith were distancing.

Followed by a vote, with decent reasoning.

I really want to lynch Vedith, Seraphim is obvtowning, but I am afraid that Blitzkrieg won't listen to us until her scumreads are lynched.

More pushing on Vedith.

Vedith posting elsewhere.

Noted

Even more pushing on Vedith.

Oh right, why are we townreading Vedith again?

It's really hard for me to believe that out of all 10 players he can vig, he selects massive. Over say, Vedith. Or hell, even myself/KTS as indicated here.

Before this locks, KTS + Transcend looks like a good scum team pair.

Leaning heavily towards Creature now. And I think he bussed both his partners d1. But he made sure one of them didn't get lynched because xyzzy gained momentum and he hopped on her momentum after having her crossed off as scum for a decent portion of the game. Most likely a vanity tunnel.

Spoiler: But wait! There's more!

Read these sequence of quotes and imagine Creature being a town vigilante that had the intent of shooting Vedith the previous night.

Probably between Skelda, Vedith and Blitzkrieg

Aiite.

Seraphim (3): Blitzkrieg, Vedith, xyzzy

Maybe there's one scum there.

One scum there, one scum there...

Going with this:

VOTE: Skelda

Nah just kidding. Let's lynch Skelda. From there he keeps his vote on Skelda for a VERY long time.

Hi I'm not dead

Reads:

{Naomi, Transcend}
{

Xyzzy

}
{KTS}
{Skelda,

massive

, Io}
{blackstar}
{Vedith, creature}

Still gotta ISO the new people

@Mod - I though I'd changed my vote to vedith in 495

No mention of Seraphim and pistachi0n.

Pushing on Sera/Pista, excluding Vedith lol.

Maybe it's just Skelda and Vedith.

Maybe... but I'm gonna vote the person I didn't think about vigging lol....

Also, if Vedith flips scum, Seraphim is pretty much town as I doubt he would bus all his buddies early in the game to be survivalistic.

Here's this scenario that's neat if Vedith flips scum, but nahhh gonna keep voting Skelda!

I want to flip Vedith, he'll give us a bunch of info even if he flips town.

LETS FLIP VEDITH!!! (no vote to follow)

I want to flip Vedith, he'll give us a bunch of info even if he flips town.

okay

VOTE: Vedith

KTS votes Vedith! Does Creature vote Vedith with him?

PoE:
Vedith
Seraphim
Killthestory
Blitzkrieg
Skelda

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!

I'd start PoEing with Skelda.

LETS POE SKELDA!!!! NOT VEDITH!!!

Okay, guess

Vedith

and KTS are

town

.

VOTE: Skelda

I'm obviously not going to be able to lynch Kill today so moving to plan 2. Skelda at least wouldn't be a bad shoot for Black.

Momentum on Skelda rises, and Creature has not moved his vote since the beginning of day.

PoE:

Vedith

Seraphim

Killthestory

Blitzkrieg
Skelda

Transcend
Naomi-Tan

Also, idk why Skelda wouldn't be okay with us PoEing him.

And Vedith is now crossed out from the list... even though I was thinking about vigging him...

Vote Count 1.7

light_ganski (5): Io, Seraphim, Creature, Transcend, Blitzkrieg
Creature (2): xyzzy, light_ganski
Vedith (2): BlackStar, Naomi-Tan
BlackStar (1): Vedith
xyzzy (1): massive
killthestory (1): Skelda
Seraphim (1): killthestory

Not Voting (0):

With 13 votes it takes 7 to lynch

Day ends in (expired on 2016-09-09 11:30:00)

Sorry I cant get it color coded it keeps breaking the tags when I do that uggh.

Vote count before the awesome shot by Black. Notice that not only did light tunnel on creature he is voting with the same townie he was setting up for a mislynch. Plus look where creature's vote is on the scum. Probably one of the vanity wagons though one of the scum of two may be on his buddy's wagon ready to jump off if it gets to L-1. They did not count on the day vig shot though so they must be scrambling by now.

[area=Vote Count 1.13 xyzzy (7): Io, Transcend, Creature, Seraphim, massive, BlackStar, Killthestory
Seraphim (3): Blitzkrieg, Vedith, xyzzy
Blitzkrieg (1): Naomi-Tan

Not Voting (1): Skelda[/area]A lynch has been achieved

I definitely could get behind a skelda vote for sure Was first on KTS and not on Light and then not voting. KTS was not under much pressure and is on the xyz wagon, could be scum buddy. Or Io or Trans. But with day talk it may have had both off that wagon knowing they already sowed the seeds with their making it like light was the buddy.

VOTE: Skelda

And more momentum on Skelda arises.

Rach is town.

Hey Rach, you're voting my scapegoat lynch. You're town.

Townreads of my head: BlackStar, Naomi, RachMarie, Io, Blitzkrieg.

Who's left?

Out of nowhere Vedith goes back in to the scum pool.

KTS, Skelda, Transcend, Vedith

Who's scum here?

^^

VOTE: Skelda

Incase I didn't.

But still gonna make sure Skelda eats rope LOL!!!

I can buy him thinking it was bluff b/c I thought the same thing honestly.

VOTE: Blitzkrieg

This vote might be vain but idc I'm not voting an empty slot so this is where my vote will be for a while.

Skelda slot replaces out, so Skelda wagon dissipates. No scapegoat lynch for Creature!

yeah well I understand why he wants to save his shot with only 2 of them

So moving along

going to give the replacement a chance to speak Moving to scumspect 2

VOTE: KTS

Again, more switches off of Skelda.

VOTE: KTS

Well damn, can't get Skelda lynched. Guess I'm gonna have to vote V--- wait nvm let's kill KTS!!!

The fake dayvig wasn't the real reaction test. I was actually town reading KTS from way back here when eh was catching up on the game.

VOTE: Light

I'm leaving my vote here, going to eat, and when I get back, I expect Light to be dead.

I WENT B ACK TO CHECK TO THE REPLIES NAD LITHG IS ALREADY DEAD???

MY DREAM COME TRUE. A PERSON DIES BEFORE I EVEN SAY FOR THEM TO DIE

ha

I just don't think that scum would've faked that. It felt genuine to me. And he's said throughout the agen that he doesn't feel invested in it so it makes sense why he didn't seem to care much when he got "shot". I don't see any hidden agenda in his posts and he just looks like a townie who doesn't feel like doing much. The point of the fake shot was to look at the reactions of everyone else and see who would act opportunistically after it. Rachmarie stands out to me the most. We really should've lynched this slot ages ago. Sorry for using you to scum hunt, KTS.

VOTE: rachmarie

BlackStar makes a vote on RachMarie. Guess what fucking happens next.

Bah I'll see where this goes.

VOTE: RachMarie

You guessed it! Another vote from Creature that isn't on Vedith! Let's bring a blast from the past shall we?

Rach is town.

LOL LOL LOL

Skelda is an empty slot, Vedith isn't.

I am going to follow my heart.

VOTE: Vedith

So in this sequence he finally votes Vedith after partaking in lynches on 3 other people that weren't the person he had intentions on vigging.

uggh



VOTE: Vedith

but when skelda gets his replacement, don't let him off the hook

Momentum on Vedith rises! Oh crap what do I do what do I do!

VOTE: Expedience

I'm inclined to agree with BlackStar. Creature and Expedience definitely share an alignment.

Ooo an out.

VOTE: Expedience

Whew.

And yeah that's pretty much enough. 43 posts later after voting Vedith he hops on the Skelda slot again which he started out voting which inevitably gets lynched at end of day.

VOTE: Creature

I'm not even sure if I need to read Rach/predecessors' ISO's. This is clear cut distancing.

Also, my N1 shot would be Vedith, but then one day before the deadline I changed to massive.

This is the quote in question btw.

Vigging massive when he had a case on Vedith that supported as scum with FLIPPED MAFIA and absolutely nothing on massive does not look accurate at all.

But the damning thing is Creature not voting Vedith d2 for very long AT ALL and getting the Skelda/Expedience slot lynched like a walk in the park.

Please read both spoilers above if you want more meat to this.

Vote Count 2.8

Expedience (6): Blitzkrieg, Transcend, Killthestory, BlackStar, Rachmarie, Io
Transcend (2): Vedith, Creature
Killthestory (2) Expedience, Naomi-Tan


Not Voting (0):

A lynch has been achieved

Oh wow and look at where his vote is parked at the end of day. WITH THE PERSON HE WAS CONTEMPLATING VIGGING.

L

O

L

Probably between Skelda, Vedith and Blitzkrieg

Seraphim (3): Blitzkrieg, Vedith, xyzzy

Maybe there's one scum there.

Maybe it's just Skelda and Vedith.

Also, if Vedith flips scum, Seraphim is pretty much town as I doubt he would bus all his buddies early in the game to be survivalistic.

I want to flip Vedith, he'll give us a bunch of info even if he flips town.

PoE:
Vedith
Seraphim
Killthestory
Blitzkrieg
Skelda

These quotes suggest that you still FOSed him and you were willing to lynch him.

PEDIT: Nah you misinterpreted what I said. I used my watch all 5 nights, I'm not x-shot or y-night. I've just used the action on 2 slots throughoutthe course of 5 nights. N1 BS N2 Nay N3 Nay N4 BS N5 BS.

Spoiler: Vedith

I want to flip Vedith, he'll give us a bunch of info even if he flips town.

I want to flip Vedith, he'll give us a bunch of info even if he flips town.

okay

VOTE: Vedith

I am going to follow my heart.

VOTE: Vedith

And you don't vote Vedith for a solid 470-ish posts when you had the chance right there.

VOTE: Expedience

And then you escape that REALLY quickly.

Spoiler: KTS

Okay, guess Vedith and

KTS

are

town

.

Okay but then the moment KTS gets a vote...

yeah well I understand why he wants to save his shot with only 2 of them

So moving along

going to give the replacement a chance to speak Moving to scumspect 2

VOTE: KTS

Again, more switches off of Skelda.

VOTE: KTS

You're right there for it.

Spoiler: Rach

Rach is town.

But then BlackStar votes Rach

The fake dayvig wasn't the real reaction test. I was actually town reading KTS from way back here when eh was catching up on the game.

VOTE: Light

I'm leaving my vote here, going to eat, and when I get back, I expect Light to be dead.

I WENT B ACK TO CHECK TO THE REPLIES NAD LITHG IS ALREADY DEAD???

MY DREAM COME TRUE. A PERSON DIES BEFORE I EVEN SAY FOR THEM TO DIE

ha

I just don't think that scum would've faked that. It felt genuine to me. And he's said throughout the agen that he doesn't feel invested in it so it makes sense why he didn't seem to care much when he got "shot". I don't see any hidden agenda in his posts and he just looks like a townie who doesn't feel like doing much. The point of the fake shot was to look at the reactions of everyone else and see who would act opportunistically after it. Rachmarie stands out to me the most. We really should've lynched this slot ages ago. Sorry for using you to scum hunt, KTS.

VOTE: rachmarie

And then...

Bah I'll see where this goes.

VOTE: RachMarie

And you're right behind it.

Fight my points against you.

[Creature]

Did I ever have a game where I was this active and reckless as scum?

[Transcend]

You're not being reckless, you're just hardclaiming scum more and more each time you post lol.

[Creature]

Nice try misrepping me, guess I got the scum now.

[Transcend]

How is attempting a strategy which possibly lands you with hammer being reckless?

It's literally you hardclaiming scum lol.

How is making a half-assed case on me with points you can't argue once I defend myself being reckless?

It's literally you hardclaiming scum lol.

I can go on honestly.

[Creature]

No, it's my genuine townplay, you know I have town motivation behind my crazy plans.