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[gigabyteTroubadour]

Not hammering.

I'm town.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

also that means no lynching is officially awful

unless scum kraska has pocketed me

[kraska77]

^_^

[kraska77]

Hey hey no pocketing

[gigabyteTroubadour]

can never be too sure

kinda busy irl so uh no scumhunting for a bit... we'll see if i need a V/LA

[kraska77]

Same
I'll be back monday

[Elyse]

Ok well my giga paranoia is gone.

VOTE: MichelSableheart

That was a ballsy move for kraska-scum - confirming a town player like that.

Why are people townreading Michel again?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

will go into that when i have time, i think he's my best townread :s

[Elyse]

This basically a scum win

kraska and Michel are voting me

giga has been paranoid of me all game

If you're not going to change your mind there's no point in dragging it out. I don't think I've played a great game. I got busy irl and never got into it much. Sucks that town has to lose because of it

[gigabyteTroubadour]

elyse I'm NOT the kind of person who is rash

Look at Open 646. I waffled the whole game and had shit reads past D1, and I hammered my townread for the win.

If you are town, it has to show. I promise. I'm going to do as much work as I can to make sure we win.

also this is the kind of thing i'm glad to be conftown while saying :///

[chilledtea]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT 5.02

Elyse (L-1) : MichelSableheart, kraska77.

MichelSableheart (L-2) : Elyse.

Not Voting (1) : gigabyteTroubadour.

Day will end in (expired on 2016-10-14 20:00:00)

[gigabyteTroubadour]

so uh

i did scumputer

and i think it's pretty useless... results are:

• Kraska77
  : 2.2
  
  MichelSableheart
  : 2.1
  
  Elyse
  : 1.8

Spoiler: Spreadsheet here

http://imgur.com/lvxTMlZ

i have to look more into this to be honest because while i get the math behind it i didn't expect kraska to be the one who ends up getting the highest score. i also would hate myself forever if i lynched kraska just because of this because it's pretty arbitrary (i think once i'm not overgamed i want to start doing a study on my own to test the validity of scumputer anyway...)

[gigabyteTroubadour]

VOTE: kraska

L-1

this really does not look like a vote on a scumpartner

i don't know what a vote on a scumpartner looks like

but this and shadow's further interactions just seem like a really weird way to distance

[kraska77]

so uh

i did scumputer

and i think it's pretty useless... results are:

• Kraska77
  : 2.2
  
  MichelSableheart
  : 2.1
  
  Elyse
  : 1.8

Spoiler: Spreadsheet here

http://imgur.com/lvxTMlZ

i have to look more into this to be honest because while i get the math behind it i didn't expect kraska to be the one who ends up getting the highest score. i also would hate myself forever if i lynched kraska just because of this because it's pretty arbitrary (i think once i'm not overgamed i want to start doing a study on my own to test the validity of scumputer anyway...)

Lol *throws scumputer*

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Did you roll scum kraska?

like this^ felt more like encouraging thor's push on kraska

with such little information in town's hands i think it benefits scum to encourage people to sort town before scum

i doubt shadow would have gotten much towncred from a scum!kraska lynch, too

[gigabyteTroubadour]

{MariaR, JarJarDrinks}
{Thornumbers, Nero Cain}
{kraskanumbers, gerryoat, I Am Innocent, karnos}
{Elyse, Blitzkrieg}
{Shadow_step}
{MichelSableheart}

transcend's reads for the most part are on point

there's a lot less motive for a team with kraska as scum to want him lynched, since kraska has to be the team member to make it to endgame (being the doctor and all)

If it's Michel, then transcend was scumreading 2/3 of the scumteam and nullreading the other. If it's Elyse, then it's an almost as good 1-scumread 2-nullreads. My reads weren't too different, but I had Michel as town and the wagon on me persisted... at least the scum-candidates were still interested, since JarJar unvoted and the wagon collapsed on itself.

So point is, scum!Elyse and scum!Michel should want my slot dead in the earlygame, and a lynch is an easy way to achieve that. Michel has more to gain from re-evaluating D2 because I strongly townread his slot and thus would keep it alive, yet he was still OK pushing my mislynch with Blitz.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Also, if Transcend thinks Michael is scummy, than no matter what Transcend's alignment, the reality is probably the opposite

this was probably in reference to Open 646, where transcend was scum and had really shitty reads

doesn't really make me want to town or scumread michel in particular

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Blitzkrieg, if you feel selective replying is worth pointing out, then why are you conveniently ignoring the wagon on you and the discussion it sparked?

^ also does not feel like a question you ask a partner

who tf needs to coach titus of all players... then again idk if michel knew that blitz was titus but still

[kraska77]

What do you think of michel/blitz interactions? I wrote Michel off as town early into day 1 bc their interactions didn't make sense for them to be partners

Pedit: ninjad

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i'm pretty much going to post quotes that catch my eye so uh

prepare for thread bloating, but yes i agree with you there

[kraska77]

Ehh but that post was kind of whatever
I'm talking more about his early rvs posts

[kraska77]

That michel* post

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Really the fact that he was questioning stuff right out the gate like that is extremely town. I think there needs to be some scrutiny because A: It's MYLO, B: A lot of his questioning is directed towards Blitz, so if the wagon caught on he could get a lot of towncred for it. I find it a little weird that in the end, he opted to go for the Maria/Me route of scumhunting. As I read I'll double check if I think his switch felt genuine but I really remember liking his thought process.

Elyse, why Michel over Kraska?

[kraska77]

Vote: Blitzkrieg

A vote is far more likely to generate discussion if you actually give a reasoning that can be discussed. The lack of reasoning with your vote could be the result of the fact that you don't actually want to generate discussion.

I mean this is just.......
But I keep thinking maybe nero's interpretation of this is right and michel thought it was scummier than the rest bc...u know

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Also:

Where the F did I say "I want to stay in RVS stage!" I'm saying we're still in it

Michael's first posts have been a load of bs and feels like

he's trying to get something rolling on town (ironic cause I'm doing the same thing)

Jarjar made one post and it wasn't a joking post it was a chainsaw lynch post that was god awful

VOTE: MariaR

Explain the bolded.

Vote: MariaR

hm.

he kind of dismissed that scumread of blitz pretty quickly and voted with her

i mean RVS (or AVS) is the part of the game where you have to throw shit at the wall and see what sticks... so him having super fluid reads isn't too out there, but this (and Maria's responses) look like what got him into that tunnel.

i think i want to hear more from Elyse. if elyse is town, she's pretty much the entire town right now because the game ends as soon as i vote for her.