inspectorscout's Mini Normal Review

inspectorscout · Post Post #25 (ISO) » Tue Aug 30, 2016 3:04 am

I know. And i would still add a tracker shot there, as i believe it would be townsided without.

After a bit of thinking, i believe this is the best of both worlds:

Setup:
1x Mafia JOAT (1-shot Ninja, 1-shot Tracker)
2x Mafia Goon

1x Town Watcher
1x Town Neighborizer
1x Town Jailkeeper
1x Town 1-shot Bulletproof
6x Vanilla Townies

It's the setup you found nearly balanced, but with the JOAT instead of the ninja. Why? Having the tracker adds the little bit of power that I think is needed, yet I keep it on 1 person, so scum has to do effort not getting that person lynched D1. I think that is the best way to make all of you semi-happy.
Unless I'm wrong again lol

TellTaleHeart · Post Post #26 (ISO) » Tue Aug 30, 2016 3:52 am

I still think this is a scumsided setup, but I won't veto it if mastin and Cogito approve.

inspectorscout · Post Post #27 (ISO) » Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:46 am

Yeah, I'll see what they think as well.

mastin2 · Post Post #28 (ISO) » Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:57 am

Well, there is the lack of town synergy (JK nullifying Watcher/Neighborizer, JK/BP conflict), but individually: Watcher is a strong town role which is mitigated only slightly by a single-time use ability. It can confirm town abilities just as easily as it can confirm scum.
Jailkeeper is a strong town role, in some ways stronger than a doctor or a roleblocker because it has two ways of stopping a kill, which if repeated, give the town an extra lynch. Especially given the BP. While not knowing which of blocked-kill or blocked-scum it'd be, they'd still hold a fair chance of doing exactly that.
The Neighborizer could, in an optimized scenario, end up coordinating the two strong roles. They lack synergy thanks to their nature, but they can still be coordinated.

Given that, I'd say the town's got enough power. If only one kill was stopped, you'd get onto evens which are bad for the town, but the odds are you'll end up with two stopped giving them an extra lynch. The power behind that cannot be emphasized enough.

inspectorscout · Post Post #29 (ISO) » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:05 am

I especially made it a jailkeeper instead of a doctor to prevent a breaking strategy.
Do i need to repost the BP role PM? It's in the OP still.

@mastin: do you want me to split up scum powers or no?

inspectorscout · Post Post #30 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:53 am

Bump

mastin2 · Post Post #31 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:09 pm

I'm indifferent with the current setup on split or not, so I suppose I'm deferring to CES on that to see what he thinks.

inspectorscout · Post Post #32 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:59 pm

Then lets wait for CES

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #33 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:39 pm

I still prefer split and would pass that set-up. So then all we need to see is a 1-shot Tracker Role PM and we're good to go, I think.

inspectorscout · Post Post #34 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:21 pm

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Spoiler: Sample Role PM

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Setup:
1x Mafia 1-shot ninja
1x Mafia 1-shot tracker
1x Mafia Goon

1x Town Watcher
1x Town Neighborizer
1x Town Jailkeeper
1xTown 1-shot bulletproof
6x Vanilla Townies

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Spoiler: Town Watcher

Spoiler: Town Neighborizer

Spoiler: Town Jailkeeper

Spoiler: Town 1-shot Bulletproof

Spoiler: Mafia Goon

Spoiler: Mafia 1-shot Ninja

Spoiler: Mafia 1-shot Tracker

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Action resolution:
jailkeeper
Neighborizer
Factional nightkill
Watcher/Tracker

No feedback given to: Factional kill, Neighborizer, Jailkeeper, Roleblocker, 1-shot Ninja.
Watcher gets results as:
If nobody visited their target: "Your target was not visited."
If their target was visited: "Your target was visited by [player]"
If the watcher was jailkept: "No result."
Tracker gets results as:
If their target didn't visit anyone: "Your target did not visit anyone."
If their target visited someone: "Your target visited [player]."
If the tracker was jailkept: "No result."[/quote]

TellTaleHeart · Post Post #35 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:07 pm

I approve this.

inspectorscout · Post Post #36 (ISO) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:01 am

I made a typo in this role pm, so i fixed it.
Thans for approving TellTale! I'm sorry it's not exactly what you wanted...

Spoiler: Mafia 1-shot Tracker

inspectorscout · Post Post #37 (ISO) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:32 pm

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #38 (ISO) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:47 pm

Good. I'll tell N that we're done.

inspectorscout · Post Post #39 (ISO) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:03 pm

Shouldnt mastina approve before that

She kinda did but still...

mastin2 · Post Post #40 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:47 am

I was under the impression I already had as well, whoops.
But yes.
If I missed anything, I'll take responsibility; I think you're good.

inspectorscout · Post Post #41 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:02 am

Okay

Thanks all of you <3

TellTaleHeart · Post Post #42 (ISO) » Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:22 pm

In post 36, inspectorscout wrote:Thans for approving TellTale! I'm sorry it's not exactly what you wanted...

In the end, it's not about what I want. It's what you want.

(And what doesn't get you yelled at after the game. >.>)

inspectorscout · Post Post #43 (ISO) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:37 am

Spoiler: mafia 1-shot ninja

Sorry for the bump, but my ninja role pm still had the tracker part in it and i wanted to make sure I wouldn't use it by mistake