Application of WOTC

[Wisdom]

thats wise

[Accountant]

tbqh i dont see how yume would have accumulated this much hate if she was as innocent as she claims

who is innocent and who is guilty?

If you don't know the details you definitely are not authorized to talk about this topic

Yume DEFINITELY cannot be innocent. I don't need to know any details to know that someone with a dozen WOTCs is not innocent.

Whats your definition of innicent? They called all the prophets liar when they were advising everyone to god. Are they liars?(Not making this religious or anything; just making a point)

Yes everyone your mentioning might be wrong. logically your use for word "definitely" is wrong.

but no one asked you to talk about something you don't know anything about. come back when you read the details.

Do you think that 20 people spontaneously hallucinated Yume being a bad mafia player and WOTCed her for no reason

[Frozen Angel]

Do you think that 20 people spontaneously hallucinated Yume being a bad mafia player and WOTCed her for no reason

I never said that

I said you have no right to talk on that specific matter and no one asked you to

[Wisdom]

fa pls
this thread is enough for anyone to get an opinion on yume

[Frozen Angel]

no its not

[Frozen Angel]

I am definitly not defending her though before accusing me of that. read my posts to see whats my stance about this.

[Accountant]

Do you think that 20 people spontaneously hallucinated Yume being a bad mafia player and WOTCed her for no reason

I never said that

I said you have no right to talk on that specific matter and no one asked you to

If you don't think that happened then it must be the case through logic and common sense that Yume is a bad player.

Anyone has the right to outline transparently obvious chains of logic.

[Frozen Angel]

Do you think that 20 people spontaneously hallucinated Yume being a bad mafia player and WOTCed her for no reason

I never said that

I said you have no right to talk on that specific matter and no one asked you to

If you don't think that happened then it must be the case through logic and common sense that Yume is a bad player.

Anyone has the right to outline transparently obvious chains of logic.

I never said what I think about that matter, I'm saying if you don't know the details you can't talk about it.

This is judging others. YOU shouldn't dare to judge what you don't know.

[Frozen Angel]

Actually I said what I thought about the matter with the information I had. But even I didn't use it to judge anyone though.

[Papa Zito]

can we at least not make this about one particular individual

[Wisdom]

all wotc threads are about that particular individual so

[Papa Zito]

I mean that's fair but we were doing so well

[Accountant]

Anyone has the right to judge anyone else for any reason

[SpyreX]

I'm judging you for that statement now

[Frozen Angel]

Anyone has the right to judge anyone else for any reason

If you believe that then I'm sorry for you

[Aristophanes]

this thread is enough for anyone to get an opinion on yume

Yup.

Yume, please stop playing the victim here. It's why you aren't improving or changing your play. If you did so, or were willing to do so, this wouldn't be the issue that it is.

I can't believe this thread became a toxic pool of toxicity (well, I can in hindsight actually).

I think this has become Yume centric though, which isn't right. We are attacking her and singling her out. Of course, she is continuing to play victim, be toxic, be stubborn as all hell, hang on questions that don't matter but insist they be answered threatening big red letters because

that always works out well

, and shifting all blame off of herself rather than accepting the criticisms which she has said she can take.

These are all reasons I would consider WOTCing you, despite having never used it myself, and never planning to. They speak to the larger problem with your play. One which you refuse to legitimize despite people telling you, yelling at you, avoiding you, WOTCing you, etc.

Learn to play with us and we'll play with you! It's as simple as that! Throwing a fit when you're confronted just deepens the case.against you.

[Ranmaru]

Who cares? I can show multiple games where I have, but of course they won't matter to those deadset on me being some sort of criminal.

This is my problem with her and notice she stopped posting for after that. It shows she doesn't care to improve... or show that she is doing so at least.

what is this, mafia?

Vote: Yume

[Yume]

And how am I supposed to change my play if you won't even let me join? Here's an idea: you give me a chance for a month. If I don't show signs of improving by then, then you could continue doing this without me objecting.

[Yume]

But I get it. You want me to vanish, die, disappear. Just like everyone else. You proved time and time again you don't care about others, so drop the act. I am expected to care about other while the rest of you are self-centered. Not gonna work.

You say I don't respond well to criticism, but can you tell me if I singled Frozen Angel out since coming to this thread? She criticized me the most out of all of you, so if I were playing the victim as you say, I would have been at her throat by now. I am not. Ask yourselves why. Maybe because she doesn't exhibit any of holier-than-thou attitude the rest of you have....

[Ranmaru]

If you are really trying to improve I am willing to listen what criticisms you agree with. I want you to acknowledge your weaknesses and work to improve them. If you need an ear to talk, PM me. No one literally wants you dead. /end

[Yume]

Yes, you do. Don't deny it. If I have any flow, it's met with a universal 'get out'? Feeling suicidal? Banned from another forum (this is why I told ika no one in the online world cares about him being suicidal , because I was banned from an online forum when I brought it up) Being less than a perfect image online? You get kicked from all the cool actions/banned. Trying to express the frustration of things being unfair here? 'lol, you know nothing Jon Snow'. Having the nerve to point out people have feelings which should be respected? Burn the witch.

[Ranmaru]

I tried to help you Yume. My offer is still open. I think if you take it you can grow and become a valued member of the site, if you want to. I am not going to reply any further. We are going in circles, and we should focus on getting back on topic. Finally let us be rational.

[SpyreX]

If i were to mod assuming you could keep things civil I'd give you a shot yume.
I'm not the only one

[Yume]

Rational? You can't just be rational without a single emotion. Not unless you live in a vacuum. Are you gonna live in a vacuum?

[Ranmaru]