Survivor Mafiascum Rankdown (Properly Dead. Leave it dead)

[Haschel Cedricson]

I want to preemptively point out that Magikoopa made a ton of hilarious and entertaining MSPaints that are lost to the Tinypic aether.

[xofelf]

Don't you mean PimHel?

No wait, that never happened because it would forever fuck the ELO board, nevermind~

[Chevre]

ok now i'm just curious where that "Dangerous Woman" was supposed to go. ;P

[xofelf]

328. Sam (Framm 18) - Middle Earth

Question: If we were to go to tribal and I was willing to sacrifice myself for the other members of the green tribe, would I be allowed to no vote? (Just wondering)

So much drama... This is getting ridiculous. *sigh* I am envious of Galadriel not having to vote.

There's not too awful much to say about Sam. He was extremely loyal to the point of being sacrificial. He'd rather do what people wanted and follow along than make any waves or #bigmoves. His biggest plans were to just stay in the game. He was cute and sweet and oh my gosh, such a fluffy sheep. Any time votes were any amount of difficult or drama-filled, he had somewhat of a rough time with them. He didn't really affect a whole lot of the game, and outside of being relatively nice and harmless, he wasn't much of a character. Even when there was the challenge where all the dead players got to talk to the living and vote for which tribe should go to TC, he was only mildly disappointed about Aragorn's betrayal of him. He seemed more disappointed about the fact that Aragorn lied to his face instead of just telling him what was going on, than he was about being eliminated there.

[Fluminator]

Mushroom kingdom must have really sucked huh.

[Save The Dragons]

If you want to argue it sucked because it had 30 players and that's unreasonable, then yeah, I'm with you, but if you're arguing that due to the results from the rankdown I suspect the biggest reason it's not faring well as other games is because anonymity and confessionals were new and people didn't instinctively choose to write in them over talking to other players. Which I'm not sure means that it sucked in general.

[xofelf]

There were a lot of flakers and quits in that 30. And you are entirely correct about confessionals being sparse at best with the exception of a few people. The other part is that with so little go on, having any sense of people's entertainment value is pretty damn impossible. Even talking to the people who were in the game doesn't really give you much of sense of that. People don't really remember the players of Mushroom Kingdom at all or talk about them. The challenges and certain aspects to the game are mentioned here in there. Otherwise it's a rather forgettable game.

[Flameaxe]

It was new
It was a long time ago
It predates many of the voters

Most of it took place behind the scenes, so it was a great game from a game perspective, just not from a spectator perspective

[Crazy]

From what I can tell the biggest change is that the social game was a lot less important than it is now. And, to be fair, there was a sizable amount of fodder in the 30-person cast. But the strategy wasn't lacking and it was a blast to play.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Mushroom Kingdom probably wasn't a "good" game in an objective sense but it was indeed fun and I will always have fond memories of it.

On an unrelated note, there are only three placements that have been untouched so far: No winners have been cut, no second-placers have been cut, and no... ninth-placers? Apparently there's something about 9th that leads to entertaining characters.

[xofelf]

9th is probably because it's one of those rounds that moves can happen in since most of the time the lower merge vote fodder is gone. It's also a round where people make moves too early for their respective games and things backfire on them in entertaining ways.

[BROseidon]

The standard "move" timings are 9 and 7. Those two slots should do very well.

6th will do very poorly, as will 10th.

[xofelf]

Oh, also, 9 often is the beginning of jury.

[BROseidon]

Tbh I feel like 6th will be the overall worst of 9-1.

[Cheery Dog]

Is that why it was arbitrarily decided I didn't want to finish sixth in a conversation with TBO in Doctor Who?

I think I'm going to have to go reread those conversations at some stage.

[CuddlyCaucasian]

327. Princess Consuela Banana Hammock (Espeonage) - Names Are Hard (16th Place)

"Open the lid, put the trash in."

There is nothing to say about this, she was reading is boring

[Cephrir]

326. Koopa (RedCoyote) - Mushroom Kingdom

"I was really surprised that Peach and Toadette weren't together. I wonder why Diddy told me otherwise? That is actually extremely beneficial. I plan to hold onto that little nugget of information for myself. This way, if targets get set on Peach, who is she going to turn to? If targets get set on Toadette, well, I'll just say that I couldn't save her."

Koopa is still in this rankdown because he technically posted in his confessional. It's pretty much all gamebot stuff.

[Flameaxe]

Gamebots are fair game now

[Papa Zito]

huzzah

[xofelf]

Actually from what I've read, Koopa was more than just a gamebot? There's a few things that happened which people did not expect due to Koopa. He's not the Mushroom Kingdom person I would have suggested being cut next, he sure did some shit and he has personality, maybe not in his own confessional, but through the eyes of other people. In the context of games now, yeah a super non-character. In context of that game though? He should have still stuck around a bit longer.

[Papa Zito]

but isn't the context basically "all the games"

[Cephrir]

Well I did read everything at one point and make a list and he was the next one on it, just didn't bother going back over it all now.

[Crazy]

325. Major Kirrahe (Cybele) - Mass Effect

"You should see that I was an active player that made one dumb mistake. I hope that's enough for a second chance."

Major Kirrahe started off as a significant character. She was in a great position in her tribe, with a core alliance of Thane and Samara. When their tribe went down to four, Thorian was the obvious target, although when Kirrahe let Thorian know this, Thorian played his idol and took her out instead. If this was all there was to Major Kirrahe's story, I wouldn't cut her from this ranking yet. As it stood, she was a particularly active early boot who left in a memorable way.

Unfortunately, there was later a challenge right after the merge that allowed the winner to bring someone back to the game. Kasumi won this challenge and chose Major Kirrahe.

Kirrahe didn't last very long post-merge before completely disappearing. Moreover, she disappeared at a very inconvenient time, just when her alliance was about to make a huge power shift and take out Tali. Kirrahe self-voted this TC, which caused a tie. On the revote, Kirrahe still self-voted, and so did Captain Narom, which resulted in Thane getting eliminated. Kirrahe was later modkilled for inactivity during the next TC, as the alliance of Harb, Tali, Liara, and Garrus ran the endgame.

I don't think the endgame that Mass Effect got was a negative outcome, but I've always thought that Major Kirrahe's disappearance puts a big asterisk on that game as a whole. So for that reason, I think Major Kirrahe's return actually hurt the game, which is why I am cutting her here.

[Papa Zito]

weep not

[xofelf]

That entire round and the one after are just ridiculous. You were allowed to pass immunity to people, but it would reset the deadline and obviously be public. So at the start of the round both Narom and Kirrahe didn't really exist. So Harb and Liara traded immunity back and forth to get an entire day's extension just so that Narom could show up and vote. And Kirrahe still didn't show up due to Cybele's RL issues. There's a public Kasumi thread asking if we can all just agree to vote out the people who effectively disappeared and get back to the real game. There's a rule change where multiple non-submissions will just remove you from the game entirely because people just weren't there. There was a lot of stuff that happened around Kirrahe and Kirrahe's nonexistence that were very entertaining that I felt should be mentioned here.