Application of WOTC

[Frozen Angel]

pretty sure it's not just me though; nobody other than your stubborn friend is defending you

I am not defending her!

[Accountant]

even an empty threat would still embody a certain disrespect for the rules

[Frozen Angel]

even an empty threat would still embody a certain disrespect for the rules

and thats what listmods will consider and judge based on!

again who are you to say what is ok or not?

[House]

@acc you don't even know what the message was

It was reported to a listmod so back of very kindly. you have no place to talk about that

It doesn't matter what the exact wordnig of the message was. there's no possible situation where yume would threaten to break site rules without also endorsing a certain mentality that not everyone appreciates in a mafia game

I have reasons to believe that was an empty threat trying to end the conversation and house harrasment. and who are you to talk about it anyway?

we have listmods and what they say goes!

You might want to warn your future protégés that I don't respond favorably to threats.

[Yume]

What fact? The fact is that you have one game as evidence of me being unreasonable, while I have multiple games as evidence of being reasonable.

i think that when you are threatening to break site rules it goes a bit beyond being reasonable

I was put in that spot because a certain someone declined all my attempts to solve the situation otherwise.

Me putting pressure on you to build an honorable reputation in the newbie queue to show improvement DOES NOT JUSTIFY THREATS OF BREAKING SITE RULES

You ignored Freedom's Call, a finished game I linked you. Where is the guarantee that you won't ignore all the games in Newbie Queue where I show improvement just as easily?

[Frozen Angel]

Even I as the moderator of the game ; I have no opinion and won't express any sympathy with eaither side.

seriously why you think you have the right to talk about everything?

[Frozen Angel]

You might want to warn your future protégés that I don't respond favorably to threats.

I never said it was an appropriate thing she did

I have absolutely no call on this! tell her yourself

[Accountant]

even an empty threat would still embody a certain disrespect for the rules

and thats what listmods will consider and judge based on!

again who are you to say what is ok or not?

I don't think it's unreasonable to say that "making threats to break site rules, regardness of emptiness, is not ok".

Every human being has the right to judge every other human being according to their own standards. If their own standards are unreasonably strong or alien, then this is arrogance. But if the standards are something that are widely agreed on, such as "do not disrespect the rules by making threats to break them", then it's not unreasonable to judge based on that.

[Accountant]

Even I as the moderator of the game ; I have no opinion and won't express any sympathy with eaither side.

seriously why you think you have the right to talk about everything?

this is called the freedom of speech

[Frozen Angel]

even an empty threat would still embody a certain disrespect for the rules

and thats what listmods will consider and judge based on!

again who are you to say what is ok or not?

I don't think it's unreasonable to say that "making threats to break site rules, regardness of emptiness, is not ok".

Every human being has the right to judge every other human being according to their own standards. If their own standards are unreasonably strong or alien, then this is arrogance. But if the standards are something that are widely agreed on, such as "do not disrespect the rules by making threats to break them", then it's not unreasonable to judge based on that.

Thats ok to express your pov. but then what? Your opinion has seriously no weight here; you can think however you want about the situation!

I will wait for the listmod decision on the matter

[Yume]

Even I as the moderator of the game ; I have no opinion and won't express any sympathy with eaither side.

seriously why you think you have the right to talk about everything?

this is called the freedom of speech

Apparently, said freedom doesn't extend to me.

[Accountant]

Even I as the moderator of the game ; I have no opinion and won't express any sympathy with eaither side.

seriously why you think you have the right to talk about everything?

this is called the freedom of speech

Apparently, said freedom doesn't extend to me.

are you post restricted?

[Frozen Angel]

Even I as the moderator of the game ; I have no opinion and won't express any sympathy with eaither side.

seriously why you think you have the right to talk about everything?

this is called the freedom of speech

which is whats wrong with todays world!

actually no its ok! you can talk and talk as much as you want. Don't dare to judge though unless you have power.

[Accountant]

Thats ok to express your pov. but then what? Your opinion has seriously no weight here; you can think however you want about the situation!

If you think I'm trying to exert my opinion onto Yume by force, that's simply wrong. I'm asserting what I know is correct, and it is up to her whether she wishes to accept it. I have no away to enforce anything.

[Accountant]

Even I as the moderator of the game ; I have no opinion and won't express any sympathy with eaither side.

seriously why you think you have the right to talk about everything?

this is called the freedom of speech

which is whats wrong with todays world!

actually no its ok! you can talk and talk as much as you want. Don't dare to judge though unless you have power.

I will wait for the listmods decision on the matter of whether people are allowed to judge other people in public threads

[House]

What fact? The fact is that you have one game as evidence of me being unreasonable, while I have multiple games as evidence of being reasonable.

i think that when you are threatening to break site rules it goes a bit beyond being reasonable

I was put in that spot because a certain someone declined all my attempts to solve the situation otherwise.

Me putting pressure on you to build an honorable reputation in the newbie queue to show improvement DOES NOT JUSTIFY THREATS OF BREAKING SITE RULES

You ignored Freedom's Call, a finished game I linked you. Where is the guarantee that you won't ignore all the games in Newbie Queue where I show improvement just as easily?

One game is not a pattern.

Forging ahead in your stubbornness to prove everybody wrong does not earn you the acceptance you clearly hunger for.

My suggestion only that, a suggestion. It would show good will not only towards the individual games, but the community at large, to use the newbie queue for a while to build up a reputation that Yume has indeed become a better player, and you will earn respect for that consideration from your largest detractors.

Obviously I can't force you to do that... that's why it would be an impressive act of humility for you to do so on your own.

[Frozen Angel]

Thats ok to express your pov. but then what? Your opinion has seriously no weight here; you can think however you want about the situation!

If you think I'm trying to exert my opinion onto Yume by force, that's simply wrong. I'm asserting what I know is correct, and it is up to her whether she wishes to accept it. I have no away to enforce anything.

Your opinion of what? You don't know what is the thing your talking about!

Your pov in this is simply just logically refused even though it might be correct.

[Frozen Angel]

I will wait for the listmods decision on the matter of whether people are allowed to judge other people in public threads

you can talk as much as you want who gives a damn

wait as much as you like

[Yume]

Even I as the moderator of the game ; I have no opinion and won't express any sympathy with eaither side.

seriously why you think you have the right to talk about everything?

this is called the freedom of speech

Apparently, said freedom doesn't extend to me.

are you post restricted?

No, but the moment I say something that someone doesn't like, they scream harassment. I PMed Kuroi saying stuff he didn't like. I was not threatening him in any way or something similar. I just said something he didn't like. He called it harassment.

[Frozen Angel]

I endorse the idea for Yume to play only in newbie section though. that's a great way for improving.

[Yume]

What fact? The fact is that you have one game as evidence of me being unreasonable, while I have multiple games as evidence of being reasonable.

i think that when you are threatening to break site rules it goes a bit beyond being reasonable

I was put in that spot because a certain someone declined all my attempts to solve the situation otherwise.

Me putting pressure on you to build an honorable reputation in the newbie queue to show improvement DOES NOT JUSTIFY THREATS OF BREAKING SITE RULES

You ignored Freedom's Call, a finished game I linked you. Where is the guarantee that you won't ignore all the games in Newbie Queue where I show improvement just as easily?

One game is not a pattern.

Forging ahead in your stubbornness to prove everybody wrong does not earn you the acceptance you clearly hunger for.

My suggestion only that, a suggestion. It would show good will not only towards the individual games, but the community at large, to use the newbie queue for a while to build up a reputation that Yume has indeed become a better player, and you will earn respect for that consideration from your largest detractors.

Obviously I can't force you to do that... that's why it would be an impressive act of humility for you to do so on your own.

Oh, I can list more. Many more.

[Wisdom]

pretty sure it's not just me though; nobody other than your stubborn friend is defending you

I am not defending her!

lol
ok im done with this thread

[Accountant]

Thats ok to express your pov. but then what? Your opinion has seriously no weight here; you can think however you want about the situation!

If you think I'm trying to exert my opinion onto Yume by force, that's simply wrong. I'm asserting what I know is correct, and it is up to her whether she wishes to accept it. I have no away to enforce anything.

Your opinion of what? You don't know what is the thing your talking about!

Your pov in this is simply just logically refused even though it might be correct.

if you're going to say "it's okay to refuse correct opinions because the person with the correct opinion has no power to enforce it", this is a ridiculous point of view.

[Frozen Angel]

pretty sure it's not just me though; nobody other than your stubborn friend is defending you

I am not defending her!

lol
ok im done with this thread

why though

she deserves to be punished and restricted , I totally agree! but you must get your shit together!

[Accountant]

Even I as the moderator of the game ; I have no opinion and won't express any sympathy with eaither side.

seriously why you think you have the right to talk about everything?

this is called the freedom of speech

Apparently, said freedom doesn't extend to me.

are you post restricted?

No, but the moment I say something that someone doesn't like, they scream harassment. I PMed Kuroi saying stuff he didn't like. I was not threatening him in any way or something similar. I just said something he didn't like. He called it harassment.

harassment is not threatening

harassment means you keep pming them even after they want you to stop

did you continue to pm kuroi after he told you to stop