Newbie 1744 - Game Over

[Toto]

You joined in 2008 so Im guessing you are good at this. Nevermind. I was going to ask an unfair question.

What do you make of Frank and his continued participation?

[SpyreX]

Ask whatever you want. I'm here for that.

Frank is a little concerning but i haven't seen anything definitive that it's lurking on purpose. He'd be high on my list tomorrow.

[Toto]

Im guessing the fact he didnt get replaced in the last 48 hours is not AI?

[SpyreX]

No, normally not. Night wouldnt 'count' for that regardless of alignment

[Toto]

What do you think of the last question in 132. Is that a towntell or posturing?

[copper223]

@Spyre
Exactly, there is very little reason to point out the obvious as town, other than "musing alive"; but as scum it has a clear purpose.

Then we're not thinking along the same lines, yesterday when you said the energy was bad I thought about it and realized there was very little resistance to lynch Gideon and that made me pause.

Today I'm seeing my town-reads active and my scum-reads absent while there is a wagon on someone I think may be scum, that is usually promising.

@Toto
Your narrative doesn't hold because Spyre town-read Gideon before he was a possible mis-lynch, if anything he may have decided he did not need to switch reads and raise suspicion because someone and maybe even Gideon was going to get lynched anyway, the question still remains, why would you waste a strong town-read on someone that looked like a juicy mis-lynch, and that's why the case that the town-IC did not want to lynch what he consider newbie town makes more sense.

[copper223]

"musing alive"

musing aloud is what I meant to write, pretty tired tonight .

[copper223]

Also, not to be a dick, but I've played 2 perfect games in a row with close to perfect reads myself so I think I have a good idea how to play and both SB and Gideon played extremely poorly, your implied line of attack on Spyre is unwarranted and that's one of the main reasons I am sticking with the same town-reads as yesterday despite the flips.

[Toto]

Well, not to be a dick, you are not doing so well on this one. Unless of course you are scum. In which case you are doing very well.

[SpyreX]

What do you think of the last question in 132. Is that a towntell or posturing?

That's a great question. I'm really undecided.

[SpyreX]

@copper
The transparency isnt for you. It's for newbies that do things like claim vt as doc

[SpyreX]

I'm glad you brought that one up toto. I think, assuming this lynch ends up town and tomorrow is lynch or lose, frank will really be the decider.

[SpyreX]

If this lynch is scum, then the question is was it scripted to bus? If so more likely hs (that vote that fast surprised me) but I'm not sure.

[SpyreX]

Chaos was on this morning after thread had opened.

[copper223]

Well, not to be a dick, you are not doing so well on this one. Unless of course you are scum. In which case you are doing very well.

That's my point, I can't be doing well cause the townies that died made it extremely hard to do so.

[copper223]

If this lynch is scum, then the question is was it scripted to bus? If so more likely hs (that vote that fast surprised me) but I'm not sure.

Nah there is no scripted bus if Chaos is scum.

[SpyreX]

Also, not to be a dick, but I've played 2 perfect games in a row with close to perfect reads myself so I think I have a good idea how to play and both SB and Gideon played extremely poorly, your implied line of attack on Spyre is unwarranted and that's one of the main reasons I am sticking with the same town-reads as yesterday despite the flips.

I will say I don't think Gideon played that bad. Even the vt claim i can understand even if it was wrong.

SB is a bit different, but even then it wasn't awful, just a little scummy

[copper223]

There is very little you can't understand once you see the perspective of the other player, it doesn't change the fact it was terrible.

[Toto]

I was thinking if two ICs are scum it would make more sense for one of them to be lurking. Frank makes sense but that post reads more like town to me.

I know. I know. Don't hunt by association.

Im going to go away for a while and let TC, Mr Chaos and Frank contribute a bit.

[SpyreX]

Frank asking as scum is a smart move cause it feels genuine enough it gives me pause

[TownCop]

Im guessing the fact he didnt get replaced in the last 48 hours is not AI?

No, it is not AI (he seems to have some actual RL issues), but we still cannot afford for possible scum to just hide between townies who are arguing and voting each other.

@Frank, if you aren't able to participate at least once a day, you might want to consider replacing out.

[TownCop]

What do you think of the last question in 132. Is that a towntell or posturing?

I don't think it's that alignment indicative, but if I had to say it'll probably be town. Generally scum will avoid directly asking questions in the forum and will instead research them them self to avoid possible suspicion.

[TownCop]

@Spyre
Exactly, there is very little reason to point out the obvious as town, other than "musing alive"; but as scum it has a clear purpose.

Then we're not thinking along the same lines, yesterday when you said the energy was bad I thought about it and realized there was very little resistance to lynch Gideon and that made me pause.

Today I'm seeing my town-reads active and my scum-reads absent while there is a wagon on someone I think may be scum, that is usually promising.

@Toto
Your narrative doesn't hold because Spyre town-read Gideon before he was a possible mis-lynch, if anything he may have decided he did not need to switch reads and raise suspicion because someone and maybe even Gideon was going to get lynched anyway, the question still remains, why would you waste a strong town-read on someone that looked like a juicy mis-lynch, and that's why the case that the town-IC did not want to lynch what he consider newbie town makes more sense.

Activity is often not alignment indicative as long as scum lurking is not part of their meta. Either way, people who haven't checked the forum at a particular time and thus haven't responded is just that. It is only when someone sees the post, yet decides to ignore it is what makes someone seem scummy.

[TownCop]

Frank asking as scum is a smart move cause it feels genuine enough it gives me pause

Yes, but isn't that just like saying doing

anything towny

as scum is a smart move?

[Huntress]

*bump*