Application of WOTC

[Frozen Angel]

and wisdom of the one is just stupidly unfair tbh!

but I respect your decision

[GuyInFreezer]

I prefer it over WotC because WotC has a chance of not working while WotO is guaranteed.
Obviously, WotO does require some case-by-case-basis to be optimal.

[Frozen Angel]

Woto sucks unless you define yourself as a judge and judge them case by case yourself

which only will work if you be transparent with the accused and listen to their defense as well - cause that's how you can judge.

with that in mind and if you trust your skills thats even more fair by definition than "Wotm" which is obviously ok and fair to use in any manner as the game is mod's property

[GuyInFreezer]

I put them together because I might not know about something and ppl let me know.
People who do that still do that without the rules but it gives them more incentive.

[GuyInFreezer]

I mean WotO is "hey I don't want to play with this guy, pls fix" done easier.

I, as a person, would rather not have that happen.
I, as a moderator, would do anything to give players the most pleasant game possible.

[Frozen Angel]

Thats ok!

I'm saying you need to hear the accused ones as well cause your a "Judge" or whatever you want to call it - a "middleman"

if you want it to be fair! Its ok to use anyway - cause its your game and definitely your rules apply. I'm just suggesting how to have a more efficient/fair rules.

pedit : but Then "Why?" "Cause he called me as scum in last three games!" and you just outed someone for someone's satisfaction based on a bullshit reason.

Judging is hard.

[Frozen Angel]

or he misght even say "He is toxix a lot!" but then you must ask why isn't he/she banned? you go and check the games/clues talk with a listmod and see he never did anything wrong and just was trying to stop someones harrasing them. or they were scum and was just role playing - and the accuser is just upset for other reasons.

If that doesn't matter to you as a mod thats totally fine , but again its not fair to judge based on one sides description

[GuyInFreezer]

I did say that WotO needs case-by-case-basis to be optimal.

[GuyInFreezer]

And your examples can be solved because the WotM is also in effect.

[Frozen Angel]

I did say that WotO needs case-by-case-basis to be optimal.

That was exactly what I said. If your going to judge you need to judge case by case - and not biased becuase you know X and you think x is a lovely person but based on what you can get from the both sides - the accuser and the accused.

thats fair version ^

And your examples can be solved because the WotM is also in effect.

Wotm is already fair and nothing can be told about it. its your game do whatever you want!

[Accountant]

I have only one game run, and I ran it with both WOTC and WOTM active. If I looked at your game history and saw you flaking or being toxic, I'd replace you. If enough other players complained about you, I'd replace you too. I don't think it was unfair, and the game ended up being of commendable quality, perhaps thanks to that(though obviously I can't be sure).

[GuyInFreezer]

its your game do whatever you want!

That's no fun way to end the brainstorming!

[Frozen Angel]

@Acc I'm not saying removing all the players who have a tiny history of trouble making won't have good impact on the game!

I'm talking about fairness - which that is also discussable! If you believe players who are accepted by mafia scum rules has still no rights and your the god of your game and you can choose who must join your game thats totally fine (till its not a mafia scum rule violation)

@GIF that was a bout Wotm! and that was what I was saying since the start! and I do believe its right! but when you tell others your going to apear as a judge you get new responsibilities

[Maker_of_Zanos]

Why does this even matter?
We're all here to have fun.
There are a few irksome masters
But is it worth making them run?

[GuyInFreezer]

Pft
>game of competitive nature
>fun

[Frozen Angel]

that is ok to have enforcers

all I was talking about was its fairness

[Aristophanes]

Pft
>game of competitive nature
>fun

GIF, I always have fun!
Even when I get mad and annoyed, I enjoy it!
I especially get a kick out of people yelling at me! I don't know why, but it makes me smile!

[Ranmaru]

A game of competitive nature is fun when

win.

[GuyInFreezer]

A game of competitive nature is fun when

win.

This man speaks the truth.

[Frozen Angel]

A game of competitive nature is fun when

win.

This man speaks the truth.

I never talked about fun! not sure where this came to this topic!

My arguments were about fairness.

[Firebringer]

This thread still continues and I am helping it.

[Frozen Angel]

This is a great thread <3

[McMenno]

rest in pieces

[kraska77]

Pft
>game of competitive nature
>fun

GIF, I always have fun!
Even when I get mad and annoyed, I enjoy it!
I especially get a kick out of people yelling at me! I don't know why, but it makes me smile!

♡♡♡♡♡

[Ranmaru]

This thread still continues and I am helping it.

I lol'd.