Open 658 Making Friends and Enemies | Game Over

[Io]

Vote 1.6

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Aristophanes (L-4): doomfeathers, oddmusic, BK201
Transcend (L-5): Secret Agent Jin, Aubrey
MiniDeathStar (L-6): tojam2
Aubrey (L-6): Creature
Creature (L-6): MariaR
tojam2 (L-6): sad1492
MariaR (L-6): Burgerking

Not voting: MiniDeathStar, Transcend, and Aristophanes

13 players alive majority is 7.

Day ends in (expired on 2016-11-16 12:00:00)

Totally just realized how bad of an idea it was to go up by .1 on the vote counts.

[Aubrey]

tojam's town too just has very bad meta on me

The hell is this? What in the world has he said that is townie. Like seriously go through the guy's ISO. He hasn't done a damn thing to deserve town credit.

[Aubrey]

Burger can be town as well I guess. His intro was p good.

This is also a bad read right now. This white knighting gig on Maria is horrid. To declare that someone white knighted right now doesn't make much sense. It actually seems like something that is easy to blame a townie for doing in this stage of the game when no roles have been flipped. Besides she only defended him once. it isn't like she is consistently defending him.

Not to mention, Burger hasn't even caught up. Their views could totally change, but you're real quick to give them a good o'l town lean there Mr.

[Aubrey]

What I'm referencing above.

i dont think Transcend scumtold but i think maria's defence of that was really scummy

VOTE: MariaR

[oddmusic]

7 pages of catchup? Alright, let's do this thing.

Transcend is probably town folks. Annoying town, but still town. And there might even be a method to his madness.

BK's entrance looks good to me. That being said I'm not sure if I can get a read off of anybody's interactions with Transcend. Like I feel like my opinion of them gets muddled because everyone looks reasonable in comparison.

Creature is making me nervous, but I'm not sure if I've got scumvibes off of him yet.

Sad's experience with EM doesn't explain why he's fishing for the only power roles in the game (masons). I get how on EM it makes sense to look for a cop, but shouldn't it be obvious that the same logic that makes that work on EM doesn't apply here? I don't mind the vote on Tojam though.

MiniDeathStar's readslist is fine. I don't get how Transcend got a vote off of that, TBH.

The argument between MDS and Transcend is NAI. Town gets frustrated just as easily as scum.

People are putting way too much wait on how individual posts are worded.

Maybe it's just because I hate any lynch that's not specifically about lynching scum but MDS's 275 is getting me nervous about her for the first time this game.

@Tojam (279): I always want to know why somebody is voting somebody out of RVS. It helps me sort the player doing the voting.

Okay, I don't like how Tojam just wandered in the game, did nothing but defend his first post, then wandered out and hasn't returned since.

Not sure what to make of Burgerking's entrance yet.

Okay, I'm willing to sort SAJ as town for now. When he's not talking about his lack of experience, he's actually making substantial posts and giving reads.

Note to self: page 13 contains nothing of any value. Ignore it from now on.

More seriously, Maria's been really touchy this whole game, but that's NAI, and I don't buy the white-knighting argument on it's own. I've got an null-read on her for now.

[oddmusic]

Reads in no particular order

Townpile

Transcend
SAJ
BK201 – forgot to note it in my catchup but I did like his entrance
MDS – made me nervous at the end there, but the rest of her game is still town.

Nulls

BugerKing (need to see more)
Creature (I have no idea how to read this one)
MariaR (I think I need to see her interact with people who aren't Transcend…)
Aubrey (See the above)
Doomfeathers (Had an early scumread on this one, but there are better candidates now)

Scum

sad1492 – don't buy his excuse for Masonfishing
tojam – Dropped into the thread, said nothing, and left.
Ari – Leaving my vote here for now. Hasn't posted since I was last here and my reasons for voting him still stand.

[oddmusic]

@ Aubrey who have you got for scum? It looks like you've got Transcend and Sad. Any good candidates for #3?
Also, I think your avatar is mesmerizing me.

@ Tojam: I'm gonna echo MDS's question to you. It was: Have you caught up yet? Do you have any reads?

[Aubrey]

Sad's experience with EM doesn't explain why he's fishing for the only power roles in the game (masons). I get how on EM it makes sense to look for a cop, but shouldn't it be obvious that the same logic that makes that work on EM doesn't apply here? I don't mind the vote on Tojam though.

Not necessarily. I joined MS after playing multiple games on a different site. The two site metas were different, and I had to adjust a bit. It's typical for someone to continue playing the way they know how. However what seems to be the issue here is that on whatever site he is from, it is common to locate the investigator so that a doctor can protect it so the town can follow the lead of the investigator. (I assume this is correct?). However we don't have a doctor this game, so it doesn't make sense to try and locate the masons. THAT being said, I wonder if he just considered mason hunting town hunting in general...or is just ignorant about the game mechanics for this certain type of mafia game.

Not to mention, it doesn't benefit scum to openly try and mason hunt aloud. Then again, if it is common for town to start the game by doing X from where he is from, then it makes sense for scum!Sad to do X here in the hopes of blending in.

It's a crappy situation to try and place him in. Hence why he is closer to a null read for me right now.

[oddmusic]

^ Yeah, I mean I see that argument, but it assumes that he knew he'd stand out by masonhunting. If he didn't because, as you said, he's not used to this site's meta the scum him might think that masonhunting would stand out less than he expected.

[oddmusic]

Also, I guess I was wrong about your read on Sad. Do you have any scumreads besides Transcend right now?

[Aubrey]

I have people I'd like to see more out of because there isn't much content to consider, however it's early to have scum reads. A scum lean here or there is more appropriate.

[Aubrey]

Transcend is probably town folks. Annoying town, but still town. And there might even be a method to his madness.

Sell me on this. Cause just looking at this sentence makes me think your town reading him just cause he is active.

[sad1492]

^ Yeah, I mean I see that argument, but it assumes that he knew he'd stand out by masonhunting. If he didn't because, as you said, he's not used to this site's meta the scum him might think that masonhunting would stand out less than he expected.

You know back when I posted that I thought that everyone was going to do the same. Everyone will point out a pair of likely mason. Both scum!Sad and town!Sad would have done the same (Am I seriously metaing myself?)

Burger can be town as well I guess. His intro was p good.

Walk me through that. I see nothing more out of Burger's reads as hey! Im town! I think MariaR's defence was scummy! Creature seems town!

[sad1492]

Burger isn't even putting effort into his/her posts.
Also the more I reread the more I realize MariaR is more likely scum protecting townie. Creature says that Transcend is good as scum. Assume that is correct, then MariaR should know that as well, and it is unlikely she'll protect him.

[sad1492]

VOTE: MariaR

[MariaR]

Burger isn't even putting effort into his/her posts.
Also the more I reread the more I realize MariaR is more likely scum protecting townie. Creature says that Transcend is good as scum. Assume that is correct, then MariaR should know that as well, and it is unlikely she'll protect him.

I know Transcend is good as scum but everyone was scum reading him for THIS:

VOTE: MiniDeathStar

Bc ur scum

Bc u have a red pm

Can confirm

That's NAI for Transcend and I was just pointing that out

[Aubrey]

Burger isn't even putting effort into his/her posts.
Also the more I reread the more I realize MariaR is more likely scum protecting townie. Creature says that Transcend is good as scum. Assume that is correct, then MariaR should know that as well, and it is unlikely she'll protect him.

Seems like you and burger hold similar ideas though, so shouldn't that be a plus in your eyes since the both of you scumread Maria?

[sad1492]

nah. In fact as scum wouldn't it be likely for people to cling onto existing suspects?

[doomfeathers]

My gut says Creature and Aubrey are probably townie. I'll have to ISO them. I'll also have to find time to post.

(Am I seriously metaing myself?)

Could be either scum or townie. Noted for later.

[tojam2]

VOTE: Transcend
I can't put up with another 3 months worth of s***posting, I thought I'd seen the end of it but NO, Transcend comes back to haunt me AGAIN.

[tojam2]

@oddmusic, @mds: No, I haven't caught up. I have meta scum read on Transcend (my best scum read rn) but I don't like sad treating inactivity as a scum read either. MDS, you seem to be making good posts and Aubrey I can't say I remember many of your posts.

[doomfeathers]

VOTE: Transcend
I can't put up with another 3 months worth of s***posting, I thought I'd seen the end of it but NO, Transcend comes back to haunt me AGAIN.

I'm not sure whether tojam is scum, but he's not playing very well toward the town win condition.

[tojam2]

Creature says that Transcend is good as scum. Assume that is correct, then MariaR should know that as well, and it is unlikely she'll protect him.

I can testify to that, the s***posting throws people off if they're not lynched D1.

[tojam2]

@doom, we have 3 scum to find, I never claimed to be remotely good at mafia so if you think my content is useless then you can ask Io to replace me.

[doomfeathers]

@doom, we have 3 scum to find, I never claimed to be remotely good at mafia so if you think my content is useless then you can ask Io to replace me.

Actually, that's just what you're doing. You're voting Transcend because of playstyle, not scumminess. By your logic, why not ask to have him replaced instead of voting him?

FOS tojam2