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[MortFeld]

@mortfeld, were you following the game with almost one forth of the playerlist here?

Mini 1833 I assume, yeah I read that whole mess.

[Creeps20]

Not really.
I'd like to see your other account, if you have one.

How can I have be alt account if I have played newbie games?

Anyways back on topic. Will read back and look for things

[Human Sequencer]

VOTE: Creeps
Sure, you've probably played somewhere else, but calling on player meta when you've played about two games is pretty fucking stupid to be honest. Especially when that call is a complete cop out to try and disregard a scumslip. The end of 51 reads scummy intent and guilty conscience to me.

[Human Sequencer]

I forgot to add.
@mortfeld I was referring to newbie 1744.
Apologies for the double post.

[MortFeld]

Ah, no I didn't read that one but I might now.

[TwoFace]

@mortfeld, were you following the game with almost one forth of the playerlist here?

Mini 1833 I assume, yeah I read that whole mess.

My condolences

[Creeps20]

Thanks. Agree, was very awkward.

Creeps, do you have a particular reason you didn't participate in RVS?

I too much hands are pointed everywhere.

Anyways I feel like misatange is scum by ignoring thinkbig who voted drone and voted for someone else who did essentially the same.
VOTE: Misatange

The wait was caused by a few tech difficulties

[Creeps20]

VOTE: Creeps
Sure, you've probably played somewhere else, but calling on player meta when you've played about two games is pretty fucking stupid to be honest. Especially when that call is a complete cop out to try and disregard a scumslip. The end of 51 reads scummy intent and guilty conscience to me.

Who said I hadn't played elsewhere?

[Creeps20]

VOTE: Creeps
Sure, you've probably played somewhere else, but calling on player meta when you've played about two games is pretty fucking stupid to be honest. Especially when that call is a complete cop out to try and disregard a scumslip. The end of 51 reads scummy intent and guilty conscience to me.

Who said I hadn't played elsewhere?

Mastermind misread

[Creeps20]

VOTE: Creeps
Sure, you've probably played somewhere else, but calling on player meta when you've played about two games is pretty fucking stupid to be honest. Especially when that call is a complete cop out to try and disregard a scumslip. The end of 51 reads scummy intent and guilty conscience to me.

Who said I hadn't played elsewhere?

Mastermind misread

I meant nevermind! Stupid autocorrect

[MortFeld]

Anyways I feel like misatange is scum by ignoring thinkbig who voted drone and voted for someone else who did essentially the same.
VOTE: Misatange

Why does this make her scum? i.e. why would scum be more likely to do this than town?

Thanks. Agree, was very awkward.

Creeps, do you have a particular reason you didn't participate in RVS?

I too much hands are pointed everywhere.

I need a Creeps translator again.

[Toto]

I am excited

VOTE: Naomi

Creeps signing up has ruined my RvS plans but I'm still sticking with my gut that I'll vote for one of the people who has a more than two year old mafiascum account

Chaos has an older account. VOTE: Chaos

Why choose Naomi instead of Chaos?

[MisaTange]

Anyways I feel like misatange is scum by ignoring thinkbig who voted drone and voted for someone else who did essentially the same.
VOTE: Misatange

The wait was caused by a few tech difficulties

DUDE I WAS FRIQQIN SLEEPING I WAKE UP AT UNGODLY HOURS I LITERALLY CANNOT DEFEND WHEN I'M SLEEPING

Also I have one vote so I can put pressure on only one of the two people who did that

Since I now believe that is NAI, I believe early votes work much better if they get put in a confirmed, but not yet posted, slot. I understand timezones/work/school/etc, but it gives some incentive to post (a person with a lack of posts is unhelpful at best, and worst case scenario, people scumread inactivity).

I actually voted Naomi instead of Chaos literally just because I remember her one of the few people who has a 2+ year old account, I forgot what the other one is

Also Creeps has an awkward reaction to Copper's RvS vote. If we're going by meta, he acted a little bit more calmly towards the RvS vote previously, but this makes me curious. And also Creeps have played Forum Mafia in other forums as well.

VOTE: Creeps

[Naomi-Tan]

Okay Well did earlier than I like to do. (as I like to make this post as my second post and I have something to comment on so... wanna do my second post followed by the comment). So... here we go.

Hello Everyone!, For those who know my play style this will be my normal meta post so... feel free to skip. For everyone else... time to write hiya, I'm naomi and I have a very strange play style. Starting with a quirk; I call town Green and Mafia Reds I've only recently started doing this and I do slip up on this from time to time. So... going forward bare this in mind.

Now. my Green play style is what I was talking about when I said I have a strange style. I tend to do smaller posts throughout with bigger posts on occasion day 1 I like to do bigger read lists and iso's and stuff but it normally becomes unsustainable. This alone isn't strange

The strangeness starts now. I also fear death, So.. It warps my views and sometimes I do things just to get people off me. This can easily be miss read as a Red!tell but Thats just kinda how I am. It also leads me to have a LAMIST kinda playstyle pointing things out and I'm also not very good at the game and sometimes when I notice something that looks sorta suspicious but I dunno what to do with it I'll just kinda draw attention to it and flag people into examining it on my behalf as I couldn't draw a conclusion.

I do try to be fair and try to think about things from others points of views simulating in my head if something is more likely to be a Green move or a Red move and I tend to post that kinda thing. But.... It sometimes leads me to just null conculsions or just leads no where... its kinda a thing.

I am also aware that people see these kinda posts and go; Self meta BS. when I've been doing them there are generally 3 pools of people. those who believe me, those who played with me, and those who don't. If your currently falling in the last group of players feel free to browse my wiki, I post every game I've completed in it and it can be a good source for you to confirm this information. of course most of you won't.. but that just tends to be how it is.

Finally though my account is an older one I have only played a small pool of games as I took around about a year and a half break between two of my games only starting steadily again this year. So.. though I'm an older account I lack the experience and skill of many of my contemporaries.

So.. yeah.. thats pretty much all you need to know to get a good read on myself and... yeah lets get to that post I wanted to make.

Out of curiosity, why don't you just put a description of your play style in your signature? Would save a lot of time and trouble in my opinion.

EBWOP

Waiting for a ride to my next destination so here is your answer while I'm standing here. If I put it in sig it would be too long and every post would be a page long. Additionally as my play style evolves more things are added and sometimes removed depending on what's going on.

[keyenpeydee]

Vote Count

VOTE COUNT 1.02

[3] MisaTange - ChaosOmega, Mortfeld, Creeps20
[0] ThinkBig -
[1] Toto - Lil Uzi Vert
[0] Lohikäärme -
[1] Drone - ThinkBig
[0] copper223 -
[0] Human Sequencer -
[0] MortFeld -
[0] Lil Uzi Vert -
[0] TwoFace -
[0] Naomi-Tan -
[1] ChaosOmega - Toto

[L-3]

Creeps20 - TwoFace, copper223, Human Sequencer, MisaTange

Not Voting

- Lohikäärme, Drone,

MOD NOTES:

Drone hasn't confirmed yet. He has (expired on 2016-11-05 21:15:00) to confirm that he is playing. Otherwise, He'll be replaced. Edited the countdown to match when I sent his role to him.

With

13

Alive, it takes

7

to lynch. Day One will end in

(expired on 2016-11-18 10:00:00)

[TwoFace]

Set up a wiki, put info on your wiki, put reference to it in your sig.

Problem solved.

Do I join the wagon?

Tails.

Meh

[MisaTange]

BTW, what makes me curious about Creeps's actions is that he pretty much got lynched on Day One in my previous game because a person who understands his meta got him lynched (and mentions, much to his chagrin, he gets scumread as town). The main question is whether he's doing in as town or scum, and I'm juggling a few possibilities, especially with someone who's gotten a taste of him:

• He's town and purposefully acting scummy/weird/different from a previous game so I'll pipe in with "that's not his meta!"
  
• He's scum with scummy scum intentions.

Ahh, the million dollar question, "Is it scum-intentioned or town-intentioned?"

@TwoFace: I presume you meant the wagon on me, since you're already on Creeps's wagon

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Okay Well did earlier than I like to do. (as I like to make this post as my second post and I have something to comment on so... wanna do my second post followed by the comment). So... here we go.

Hello Everyone!, For those who know my play style this will be my normal meta post so... feel free to skip. For everyone else... time to write hiya, I'm naomi and I have a very strange play style. Starting with a quirk; I call town Green and Mafia Reds I've only recently started doing this and I do slip up on this from time to time. So... going forward bare this in mind.

Now. my Green play style is what I was talking about when I said I have a strange style. I tend to do smaller posts throughout with bigger posts on occasion day 1 I like to do bigger read lists and iso's and stuff but it normally becomes unsustainable. This alone isn't strange

The strangeness starts now. I also fear death, So.. It warps my views and sometimes I do things just to get people off me. This can easily be miss read as a Red!tell but Thats just kinda how I am. It also leads me to have a LAMIST kinda playstyle pointing things out and I'm also not very good at the game and sometimes when I notice something that looks sorta suspicious but I dunno what to do with it I'll just kinda draw attention to it and flag people into examining it on my behalf as I couldn't draw a conclusion.

I do try to be fair and try to think about things from others points of views simulating in my head if something is more likely to be a Green move or a Red move and I tend to post that kinda thing. But.... It sometimes leads me to just null conculsions or just leads no where... its kinda a thing.

I am also aware that people see these kinda posts and go; Self meta BS. when I've been doing them there are generally 3 pools of people. those who believe me, those who played with me, and those who don't. If your currently falling in the last group of players feel free to browse my wiki, I post every game I've completed in it and it can be a good source for you to confirm this information. of course most of you won't.. but that just tends to be how it is.

Finally though my account is an older one I have only played a small pool of games as I took around about a year and a half break between two of my games only starting steadily again this year. So.. though I'm an older account I lack the experience and skill of many of my contemporaries.

So.. yeah.. thats pretty much all you need to know to get a good read on myself and... yeah lets get to that post I wanted to make.

Out of curiosity, why don't you just put a description of your play style in your signature? Would save a lot of time and trouble in my opinion.

EBWOP

Waiting for a ride to my next destination so here is your answer while I'm standing here. If I put it in sig it would be too long and every post would be a page long. Additionally as my play style evolves more things are added and sometimes removed depending on what's going on.

You could make a wiki, describe it in there, and then reference it.

What made you incorporate this green and red thing into your play style by the way?

pedit: Ninja'd

[TwoFace]

TwoFace: I presume you meant the wagon on me, since you're already on Creeps's wagon

Yes yours.

[Human Sequencer]

Talking about naomi's meta is boring and fruitless. It will be helpful to remember, but it'll just clog up the thread for when we want to reread it.
In fact all this talk about player meta in general is boring and fruitless.

Misa, what do you think about Chaos' vote on you? Do you have a defense?

Uzi, why did you decide to post, even though you were clearly aware of TwoFace's post at the time?
Green and red is not radical terminology, nor is it particularly confusing. What do you gain from asking that question, from a town perspective?

I think it's unlikely that TwoFace wasn't referring to Creep's wagon in post 65.

[Creeps20]

Anyways I feel like misatange is scum by ignoring thinkbig who voted drone and voted for someone else who did essentially the same.
VOTE: Misatange

Why does this make her scum? i.e. why would scum be more likely to do this than town?

Thanks. Agree, was very awkward.

Creeps, do you have a particular reason you didn't participate in RVS?

I too much hands are pointed everywhere.

I need a Creeps translator again.

"Too much fingers to point. Not enough answers"
And I am suggesting maf brothers.

[MortFeld]

Hold on. You voted Naomi basically randomly. Then you switched to Copper for something you thought was slightly scummy. I assume you now believe it's NAI, otherwise you wouldn't switch your vote. If neither Naomi nor Copper have done anything alignment indicative, why switch back to Naomi?

Why didn't you answer this Misa? I still don't know why you switched to Naomi from Copper.

Anyways I feel like misatange is scum by ignoring thinkbig who voted drone and voted for someone else who did essentially the same.
VOTE: Misatange

Why does this make her scum? i.e. why would scum be more likely to do this than town?

Thanks. Agree, was very awkward.

Creeps, do you have a particular reason you didn't participate in RVS?

I too much hands are pointed everywhere.

I need a Creeps translator again.

"Too much fingers to point. Not enough answers"
And I am suggesting maf brothers.

Why would scum!Misa, knowing that her scum buddy voted an unconfirmed, cast suspicion on someone else who did the same?

As for RVS, it seems like random voting is what generates the material that leads to answers. Saying 'there are too many people voting and too many to vote' isn't a reason not to participate in RVS.

[copper223]

I actually voted Naomi instead of Chaos literally just because I remember her one of the few people who has a 2+ year old account, I forgot what the other one is

I already thought this was the case, it also explains why she noticed my vote on the inactive HS before she noticed TB's vote on the inactive drone.

Her backing up when she was told about drone and going back to Naomi is more a sign that she is new and not super confident of how to scum-hunt, so if she's told that line of inquiry is bad by multiple people she'll likely change her mind and go back to where she was before.

I see the above more likely as "bowing to pressure", it doesn't make much sense to pick fights with experienced players by default and be trying to avoid looking for trouble at the same time.

Misa, what's the game you're referencing where you played with Creeps? Creeps is weird, not sure yet if it's weird scum.

[MisaTange]

Misa, what do you think about Chaos' vote on you? Do you have a defense?

I agree I have been flip-floppy, but I explained my reasons for being so in 62.

Since I now believe that is NAI, I believe early votes work much better if they get put in a confirmed, but not yet posted, slot. I understand timezones/work/school/etc, but it gives some incentive to post (a person with a lack of posts is unhelpful at best, and worst case scenario, people scumread inactivity).

@Mortfeld as well^^ Sorry if the answer isn't sufficient enough though.

Game I'm talking about is here.

[Creeps20]

Hold on. You voted Naomi basically randomly. Then you switched to Copper for something you thought was slightly scummy. I assume you now believe it's NAI, otherwise you wouldn't switch your vote. If neither Naomi nor Copper have done anything alignment indicative, why switch back to Naomi?

Why didn't you answer this Misa? I still don't know why you switched to Naomi from Copper.

Anyways I feel like misatange is scum by ignoring thinkbig who voted drone and voted for someone else who did essentially the same.
VOTE: Misatange

Why does this make her scum? i.e. why would scum be more likely to do this than town?

Thanks. Agree, was very awkward.

Creeps, do you have a particular reason you didn't participate in RVS?

I too much hands are pointed everywhere.

I need a Creeps translator again.

"Too much fingers to point. Not enough answers"
And I am suggesting maf brothers.

Why would scum!Misa, knowing that her scum buddy voted an unconfirmed, cast suspicion on someone else who did the same?

As for RVS, it seems like random voting is what generates the material that leads to answers. Saying 'there are too many people voting and too many to vote' isn't a reason not to participate in RVS.

In all honesty I ignore threads when they are in RvS. And besides it never ends well when I do vote. If no one noticed that would have went well for ignoring thinkbig.