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[Human Sequencer]

In all honesty I ignore threads when they are in RvS.

I think we found the source of your 'EVERYBODY SCUMREADS ME' problem.

[Creeps20]

In all honesty I ignore threads when they are in RvS.

I think we found the source of your 'EVERYBODY SCUMREADS ME' problem.

Nah that is not the cause. It's because I am always scummy.

[MisaTange]

If you're worried about lynching a town by mistake, a. we have a couple of MLs so it's not

too

big, b. there is a likely chance that someone, if not themselves, will defend someone in some certain way. This is also my experience as a 'scummy town if town' type of person. Hell, I've being shat on and voted on to hell and back again and people

are

still defending me. RvS is for pressure. It's how we break the ice.

[Creeps20]

If you're worried about lynching a town by mistake, a. we have a couple of MLs so it's not

too

big, b. there is a likely chance that someone, if not themselves, will defend someone in some certain way. This is also my experience as a 'scummy town if town' type of person. Hell, I've being shat on and voted on to hell and back again and people

are

still defending me. RvS is for pressure. It's how we break the ice.

Unlike you I have an uncanny habit of mslynching power roles in RvS. No seriously I do.

[ThinkBig]

Greetings! Just getting back from school. Catching up now.

[MortFeld]

Misa - It's not a great answer (voting someone because they are confirmed but haven't posted??) but I don't see any point in pressing it.

In all honesty I ignore threads when they are in RvS. And besides it never ends well when I do vote. If no one noticed that would have went well for ignoring thinkbig.

My best effort at Creeps translation: RVS is pointless. Even in this game, simply ignoring TB made people suspicious of Misa.

I'm confused because you said that you think TB and Misa might be scum buddies, meaning that RVS was useful. Also I don't see how this answers "Why would scum!Misa, knowing that her scum buddy voted an unconfirmed, cast suspicion on someone else who did the same?" I feel like you haven't explained your Misa vote logically.

How do you even lynch someone during RVS, Creeps?

[Creeps20]

Misa - It's not a great answer (voting someone because they are confirmed but haven't posted??) but I don't see any point in pressing it.

In all honesty I ignore threads when they are in RvS. And besides it never ends well when I do vote. If no one noticed that would have went well for ignoring thinkbig.

My best effort at Creeps translation: RVS is pointless. Even in this game, simply ignoring TB made people suspicious of Misa.

I'm confused because you said that you think TB and Misa might be scum buddies, meaning that RVS was useful. Also I don't see how this answers "Why would scum!Misa, knowing that her scum buddy voted an unconfirmed, cast suspicion on someone else who did the same?" I feel like you haven't explained your Misa vote logically.

How do you even lynch someone during RVS, Creeps?

I refer to voting as lynching.

[TwoFace]

In all honesty I ignore threads when they are in RvS.

I think we found the source of your 'EVERYBODY SCUMREADS ME' problem.

That would be the other people's issues imo.

[MisaTange]

Ugh, this feels like an excuse not to participate in RvS.

1. People tend to know that RvS wagons are just RvS wagons; pressure.
2. If needed, people can claim at L-1 and redirect the votes, and people here tend to announce whether someone's at L-1. May be different in your previous forum but Mafiascum is a completely different atmosphere, and I can speak from someone who first came from a Mafia forum.
3. RTFT if nobody has announced L-1, which is weird.

[Creeps20]

Ugh, this feels like an excuse not to participate in RvS.

1. People tend to know that RvS wagons are just RvS wagons; pressure.
2. If needed, people can claim at L-1 and redirect the votes, and people here tend to announce whether someone's at L-1. May be different in your previous forum but Mafiascum is a completely different atmosphere, and I can speak from someone who first came from a Mafia forum.
3. RTFT if nobody has announced L-1, which is weird.

1. Well sometimes there are a claim limit of 1 a day. That gets wasted and we kill someone who may be inno
2. See above
3. Well I know people who are reckless.

[MortFeld]

Creeps, what about the other two parts of my post? Those being:

Can you explain your idea of TB + Misa scumbuddies, specifically with regard to my question? and

Can you translate what you meant by 'And besides it never ends well when I do vote. If no one noticed that would have went well for ignoring thinkbig.'

UNVOTE: Misa
VOTE: Creeps

Bad logic is not necessarily scummy.

[TwoFace]

1. Well sometimes there are a claim limit of 1 a day. That gets wasted and we kill someone who may be inno

where the heck have you been playing mafia? that's the dumbest rule ever

[Creeps20]

1. Well sometimes there are a claim limit of 1 a day. That gets wasted and we kill someone who may be inno

where the heck have you been playing mafia? that's the dumbest rule ever

Well it is mass roles

[Creeps20]

Creeps, what about the other two parts of my post? Those being:

Can you explain your idea of TB + Misa scumbuddies, specifically with regard to my question? and

Can you translate what you meant by 'And besides it never ends well when I do vote. If no one noticed that would have went well for ignoring thinkbig.'

UNVOTE: Misa
VOTE: Creeps

Bad logic is not necessarily scummy.

The last sentence refers to the first question.

[ChaosOmega]

Since I now believe that is NAI, I believe early votes work much better if they get put in a confirmed, but not yet posted, slot. I understand timezones/work/school/etc, but it gives some incentive to post (a person with a lack of posts is unhelpful at best, and worst case scenario, people scumread inactivity).

What made you change you mind from finding it scummy to NAI?

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Creeps: You're at L-2. What person looks most suspicious voting for you and why?

[MortFeld]

I understand that Misa voted Copper and not TB. Your sentence does not explain how voting Copper for a specific reason, when TB did the same thing as Copper, is a reasonable scum strategy.

[Creeps20]

I understand that Misa voted Copper and not TB. Your sentence does not explain how voting Copper for a specific reason, when TB did the same thing as Copper, is a reasonable scum strategy.

Can we just quit this? I need to study some past quotes. This is going to be WIFOM.

[MisaTange]

Yikes, feels like more excuses

We can do several claims in one day if necessary

(Is there even a game where two PRs had to claim in the same day)

Actually you can argue it's better for two PRs to claim because they can WIFOM, especially since some people don't directly claim. "if i am jk..."

P-Edit: I mean, scum doing that in previous games is now correlation = causation

[MortFeld]

It's not WIFOM. You voted Misa for a reason and I'm asking you to explain the reason.

[keyenpeydee]

Vote Count

VOTE COUNT 1.03

[2] MisaTange - ChaosOmega, Creeps20
[0] ThinkBig -
[1] Toto - Lil Uzi Vert
[0] Lohikäärme -
[1] Drone - ThinkBig
[0] copper223 -
[0] Human Sequencer -
[0] MortFeld -
[0] Lil Uzi Vert -
[0] TwoFace -
[0] Naomi-Tan -
[1] ChaosOmega - Toto

[L-2]

Creeps20 - TwoFace, copper223, Human Sequencer, MisaTange, Mortfeld,

Not Voting

- Lohikäärme, Drone

MOD NOTES:

Drone hasn't confirmed yet. He has (expired on 2016-11-05 21:15:00) to confirm that he is playing. Otherwise, He'll be replaced. Edited the countdown to match when I sent his role to him.

With

13

Alive, it takes

7

to lynch. Day One will end in

(expired on 2016-11-18 10:00:00)

[ThinkBig]

Hold on. You voted Naomi basically randomly. Then you switched to Copper for something you thought was slightly scummy. I assume you now believe it's NAI, otherwise you wouldn't switch your vote. If neither Naomi nor Copper have done anything alignment indicative, why switch back to Naomi?

Why didn't you answer this Misa? I still don't know why you switched to Naomi from Copper.

Anyways I feel like misatange is scum by ignoring thinkbig who voted drone and voted for someone else who did essentially the same.
VOTE: Misatange

Why does this make her scum? i.e. why would scum be more likely to do this than town?

Thanks. Agree, was very awkward.

Creeps, do you have a particular reason you didn't participate in RVS?

I too much hands are pointed everywhere.

I need a Creeps translator again.

"Too much fingers to point. Not enough answers"
And I am suggesting maf brothers.

Why would scum!Misa, knowing that her scum buddy voted an unconfirmed, cast suspicion on someone else who did the same?

As for RVS, it seems like random voting is what generates the material that leads to answers. Saying 'there are too many people voting and too many to vote' isn't a reason not to participate in RVS.

In all honesty I ignore threads when they are in RvS. And besides it never ends well when I do vote. If no one noticed that would have went well for ignoring thinkbig.

During RVS, I randomly voted for Drone, mainly because I have played with him (albeit briefly) before and not because he was unconfirmed.

Voting for unconfirmed players is a decent strategy, if only to build pressure and ensure that they confirm and join the game.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Talking about naomi's meta is boring and fruitless. It will be helpful to remember, but it'll just clog up the thread for when we want to reread it.
In fact all this talk about player meta in general is boring and fruitless.

Misa, what do you think about Chaos' vote on you? Do you have a defense?

Uzi, why did you decide to post, even though you were clearly aware of TwoFace's post at the time?
Green and red is not radical terminology, nor is it particularly confusing. What do you gain from asking that question, from a town perspective?

I think it's unlikely that TwoFace wasn't referring to Creep's wagon in post 65.

I want to reinforce that I really think she should start linking the way she plays in her signature.

The green and red stuff objectively isn't confusing but I asked the question because I'm getting the feel I'm going to have a difficult time reading her this game. I think getting a better understanding of parts of her play style will help me in the long run. I'm also a student of the game, I'm constantly learning and looking to add new things to my game so if she has a good reason for using this technique, I might try it out in my next game.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I understand that Misa voted Copper and not TB. Your sentence does not explain how voting Copper for a specific reason, when TB did the same thing as Copper, is a reasonable scum strategy.

Can we just quit this? I need to study some past quotes. This is going to be WIFOM.

Stop whining. Defend or explain the stance you took or go home.

[ThinkBig]

PS: The quoted text in my post (number 95) was a mistake. Ignore that.

[Creeps20]

Do I rvs?

Heads.

VOTE: creeps

Creeps are scummy

Random vote

I haven't even posted yet!

Well known in have but that is not the point!

VOTE: Creeps

Do you have a guilty conscience Creeps?

I still don't get this vote

VOTE: Creeps
Sure, you've probably played somewhere else, but calling on player meta when you've played about two games is pretty fucking stupid to be honest. Especially when that call is a complete cop out to try and disregard a scumslip. The end of 51 reads scummy intent and guilty conscience to me.

Anyways I feel like misatange is scum by ignoring thinkbig who voted drone and voted for someone else who did essentially the same.
VOTE: Misatange

The wait was caused by a few tech difficulties

DUDE I WAS FRIQQIN SLEEPING I WAKE UP AT UNGODLY HOURS I LITERALLY CANNOT DEFEND WHEN I'M SLEEPING

Also I have one vote so I can put pressure on only one of the two people who did that

Since I now believe that is NAI, I believe early votes work much better if they get put in a confirmed, but not yet posted, slot. I understand timezones/work/school/etc, but it gives some incentive to post (a person with a lack of posts is unhelpful at best, and worst case scenario, people scumread inactivity).

I actually voted Naomi instead of Chaos literally just because I remember her one of the few people who has a 2+ year old account, I forgot what the other one is

Also Creeps has an awkward reaction to Copper's RvS vote. If we're going by meta, he acted a little bit more calmly towards the RvS vote previously, but this makes me curious. And also Creeps have played Forum Mafia in other forums as well.

VOTE: Creeps

I don't trust this guy. Yet.

Creeps, what about the other two parts of my post? Those being:

Can you explain your idea of TB + Misa scumbuddies, specifically with regard to my question? and

Can you translate what you meant by 'And besides it never ends well when I do vote. If no one noticed that would have went well for ignoring thinkbig.'

UNVOTE: Misa
VOTE: Creeps

Bad logic is not necessarily scummy.

Referring to me or you?

It's not WIFOM. You voted Misa for a reason and I'm asking you to explain the reason.

The WIFOM is that scum wouldn't be voting him as that would give him away. But scum could take advantage of that. But scum might think town suspects that so won't do it.