Marquis wrote:-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Micro Queue (Players and Moderators) — Need Mods!
Date: Wed Aug 17, 2016 5:39:23 pm
From: Ircher
To: Marquis
Ircher wrote:1. I'll be V/LA every Friday for quite awhile and occassionaly some Saturdays too, but I should have enough time to otherwise consistently mod the game. In addition, I will have a co/backup mod.Marquis wrote:Subject: Micro Queue (Players and Moderators) — Need Mods!
Hello!Ircher wrote:/in to mod
Thanks for joining my queue! Please let me know, via return PM:Also, in order to ensure that Normal games stay "normal", we require that setups be evaluated. When it is ready, please forward your full setup to me, including the following:
- That you'll be ready to run your game when you get to the top of the list
- Who your backup/co-mod will be, if you have one
- What, if any, other modding experience and/or commitments you have
As soon as they are available, your game will be assigned to a panel of reviewers who will check/discuss your game in a private topic with you. When they are satisfied that your game fits within the boundaries of MafiaScum's definition of Normal, they will let me know. Until I receive that go-ahead from them, your game will not enter the sign-up phase, even if you reach the top of the moderating queue.
- Your opening posts (rules and flavor, if any). Remember: your opening post
mustcontain a copy of your Vanilla Townie role, which will be public knowledge to all game participants
- The complete text of all role PMs
- Any hidden moderator information (this includes any possible result PMs)
Once you've been approved, please post the role distribution in the PT so a co-/backup mod can take over in an emergency.
Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, and good luck!
Overview:(Flavorless Mafia)
Name: Flavorless Mafia
Type: Micro Open Normal
# of Players: 9
Description: A flavorless micro normal.
Co/Backup Mod: pieguyn
Modding Experience: Mini 1782
Current Modding Commitments: MT1810: Light and Darkness Mafia
Role List:
1.Town Doctor
2.Town Even-Night Doctor
3.Vanilla Townie
4.Vanilla Townie
5.Vanilla Townie
6.Vanilla Townie
7.Vanilla Townie
8.Mafia Goon
9.Mafia Encryptor
Role PMs:
1.Town Doctor
Spoiler: Town Doctor
2.Town Even-Night Doctor
Spoiler: Town Doctor
3.Vanilla Townie
Spoiler: Vanilla Townie
4.Mafia Goon
Spoiler: Mafia Goon
5.Mafia Encryptor
Spoiler: Mafia Encryptor
Opening Post:
[/center]
Spoiler: Playerlist
Spoiler: Alive Players
Spoiler: Dead Players
Spoiler: VC History
Spoiler: Event History
Rules:
Activity:
1. Prods are issued aftera) 48 hours of inactivity Monday-Friday b) 60 hours of inactivity Saturday-Sunday or c) Within 12-24 hours after an announced V/LA ends.
2. You are given24 hoursto respond to a prod in-thread or by pmif it's night.
3. Prod-dodging will generally reset the prod timer;however, a record of prod-dodges will be maintained in the initial post.3 prod dodges count the same as a prod, and you will be prodded again every third prod dodge.
4. If you are prodded in accordance to rule #3 above, then prod dodging will not be accepted.
5. Players will be replaced based on the length of the thread and how many prods have been issued.Generally, every 25th page grants a player one extra chance, butmoderator discretion is the deciding factor.
6. If you cannot post for more than 48 hours, please announce V/LApublicly. Unless it is a weekend V/LA,please set V/LA status in your control panel in addition to announcing it.
7. Excessively long V/LA will have restrictions applied to them.Any V/LA longer than 4 days should be planned ahead of time, and you should contact me at least 3 days in advanced.
Respect:
8.The number one rule is the golden rule:Do unto others as you want them to do to you.
9. Excessive flaming, excessive trolling, ad hominem, and other forms of personal attacks will not be tolerated.*
10.Any issue not related to votecounts, activity (including V/LA), and deadlines should be sent to the mod privately by pm.*
11. Any issue related to votecounts, activity (including V/LA), and deadlines should bebolded in-thread.
12. The blackout tags are prohibited;use spoiler= instead.
13.Animated GIFs MUST be spoilered. Videos should also be spoilered.
14. Hydras, if allowed,must sign.No exceptions; refusal to sign will result in immediate replacement of the offending head or both heads depending on which is necessary.*
Honour:
15.Do not discuss ongoing games in any shape or form.*^
16.Do not directly quote any form of mod communication (especially role pms) unless allowed by the moderator.*^ Flavor name claiming, role claiming, claiming flavor of abilities, and explaining how your role works are allowed. Paraphrasing of flavor must be very careful as to not cross the line.
17. Do not edit nor delete your own posts.*^
18. Do not post anything inappropriate or illegal.*
19. All textmust be at least this large.
20. Including rules 12 and 19,cryptography and other forms of encryption or codes are not allowed.*^ Breadcrumbing is exempt from this rule.
21. Do not impersonate the mod.*^In the game thread, my color is orange both bolded and unbolded. All edits by me will br signed using a tilde and my username.I use yellow instead for private threads.
22. Do not directly lie to the moderator at anytime; this includes lying about activity.*^ You may lie to the players, but not the moderator.
23. Play to win condition.^
24. Provable randomness is prohibited.*
Miscellaneous:
25. The game will begin with a48 hour pre-game phase.This will be refered to as "Dawn".
26. Days lastmax(16 - 2d, 5) days.Nights will last48 hours.
27. I may update the rules as neccessary.New portions are underlined.No longer binding portions are strike through.
28. * = Can be Force-Replaced; ^ = Can be Modkilled
Setup-Specific Rules:
1. This game uses regular lynching mechanics unless changed by one of the roles. No lynch is allowed, lynches occur at a simple majorityof votes, and deadline ends in no lynch. Abbreviations and unvotes are allowed. Votes should be cast likeVote: Playeror VOTE: Player[/b]. Unvotes should appear asUnvote: Playeror UNVOTE: Player. No Lynch votes look like VOTE: No Lynch orUnvote: No Lynch.
2. This game is a normal game and follows normal guidelines.
3. This game has an open setup.
Other Info:
1. The moderator will be V/LA on all Fridays between August 26 and sometime in November or so.
Sample Role PMs:
1.Town Doctor
Spoiler: Town Doctor
2.Town Even-Night Doctor
Spoiler: Town Doctor
3.Vanilla Townie
Spoiler: Vanilla Townie
4.Mafia Goon
Spoiler: Mafia Goon
5.Mafia Encryptor
Spoiler: Mafia Encryptor
Ircher's Micro Normal Review
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Ircher's Micro Normal Review
Ircher has a 9p micro normal to review. Please be aware all reviewers must pass the final version and this topic will be made public after the game has ended.
Reviewers: callforjudgement, Cephrir, Marquis
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Hi All.
I kinda wanna keep the setup Open.Links: User Page | Player Ratings | GTKAS | Test
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Just as a procedural note, is there a reason to have this review in secret? If it's an Open, there are no secrets to spill, and having it in public would let other people chip in. (The main reason to keep it secret would be if you were potentially considering converting the setup to Closed. I guess you might also want to keep any strategy advice from the reviewers secret from the players.)
I believe that this is the town's optimal strategy:- Day 1, the Even-Night Doctor claims.
- Night 1, the Doctor protects the Even-Night Doctor.
- Day 2, the Doctor claims.
- Night 2, the Doctors cross-protect.
Assuming that the plan doesn't get disrupted, I calculate the EV at 54%. Accounting for the (fairly unlikely but still possible) disruptions, this puts the setup pretty close to balanced (it's slightly more townsided than our usual standard for an Open, but our usual standard is probably scumsided). As such, I'd let this setup run. (There are wording issues that need to be fixed first, so not approving yet, but the only changes needed are minor.)
There is zero purpose to putting an Encryptor into an Open with a 2-member scumteam. It's equivalent in every way to giving the scum daytalk, except that the town don't know they have daytalk. You may as well simplify things by giving scum daytalk outright.
Your scum role PMs seem to be screwed up. You've told the Encryptor that they're a Goon (whilst giving them daytalk), and the scum need a link to a PT in their role PMs somewhere or they won't know where to talk to each other. The Doctor role PMs give away that the setup only has one kill per night; in a Closed Normal I'd force you to change this, but in an Open Normal there's not really an issue with that because the setup's known anyway.
You confirmation rules are a very old style which I hardly ever see nowadays. I don't have a problem with them, but your players might be confused; you might want to explain in more detail in your "all role PMs have been sent out" post.
Your prodding rules are also pretty unusual but I don't see problems with them (either in terms of legality or how they're likely to work in practice) and they're well explained, so I see no reason to change them.
There's a markup error in the rules about voting.
That's about it. This is one of the easier reviews I've had to do. Normally it takes pagefuls, but this one I may only need to make two posts (this one and a subsequent post approving any changes).scum· scam · seam · team · term · tern · torn ·town- Cephrir
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While I'm not certain town will play out the optimal strat that CFJ describes, even otherwise the setup is a slightly more scumsided tracker+doc vs. goons (the matrix6 setup) as I see it, particularly due to the daytalk. Even so, the fact that it's fully open and not semiopen puts that in town's favor still, so... pass on the balance.
address the issues CFJ outlined and we should be good to go; I don't notice anything out of the ordinary other than thoselink in bio- Ircher
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Updated Version:
Overview:(Flavorless Mafia)
Name: Flavorless Mafia
Type: Micro Open Normal
# of Players: 9
Description: A flavorless micro normal.
Co/Backup Mod: Pieguyn
Modding Experience: Mini 1782
Current Modding Commitments: MT1810: Light and Darkness Mafia
Role List:
1.Town Doctor
2.Town Even-Night Doctor
3.Vanilla Townie
4.Vanilla Townie
5.Vanilla Townie
6.Vanilla Townie
7.Vanilla Townie
8.Mafia Goon
9.Mafia Goon
Role PMs:
1.Town Doctor
Spoiler: Town Doctor
2.Town Even-Night Doctor
Spoiler: Town Doctor
3.Vanilla Townie
Spoiler: Vanilla Townie
4.Mafia Goon
Spoiler: Mafia Goon
Spoiler: Mafia PT Link
Opening Post:
Spoiler: Playerlist
Spoiler: Alive Players
Spoiler: Dead Players
Spoiler: VC History
Spoiler: Event History
Rules:
Activity:
1. Prods are issued aftera) 48 hours of inactivity Monday-Friday b) 60 hours of inactivity Saturday-Sunday or c) Within 12-24 hours after an announced V/LA ends.
2. You are given24 hoursto respond to a prod in-thread or by pmif it's night.
3. Prod-dodging will generally reset the prod timer;however, a record of prod-dodges will be maintained in the initial post.3 prod dodges count the same as a prod, and you will be prodded again every third prod dodge.
4. If you are prodded in accordance to rule #3 above, then prod dodging will not be accepted.
5. Players will be replaced based on the length of the thread and how many prods have been issued.Generally, every 25th page grants a player one extra chance, butmoderator discretion is the deciding factor.
6. If you cannot post for more than 48 hours, please announce V/LApublicly. Unless it is a weekend V/LA,please set V/LA status in your control panel in addition to announcing it.
7. Excessively long V/LA will have restrictions applied to them.Any V/LA longer than 4 days should be planned ahead of time, and you should contact me at least 3 days in advanced.
Respect:
8.The number one rule is the golden rule:Do unto others as you want them to do to you.
9. Excessive flaming, excessive trolling, ad hominem, and other forms of personal attacks will not be tolerated.*
10.Any issue not related to votecounts, activity (including V/LA), and deadlines should be sent to the mod privately by pm.*
11. Any issue related to votecounts, activity (including V/LA), and deadlines should bebolded in-thread.
12. The blackout tags are prohibited;use spoiler= instead.
13.Animated GIFs MUST be spoilered. Videos should also be spoilered.
14. Hydras, if allowed,must sign.No exceptions; refusal to sign will result in immediate replacement of the offending head or both heads depending on which is necessary.*
Honour:
15.Do not discuss ongoing games in any shape or form.*^
16.Do not directly quote any form of mod communication (especially role pms) unless allowed by the moderator.*^ Flavor name claiming, role claiming, claiming flavor of abilities, and explaining how your role works are allowed. Paraphrasing of flavor must be very careful as to not cross the line.
17. Do not edit nor delete your own posts.*^
18. Do not post anything inappropriate or illegal.*
19. All textmust be at least this large.
20. Including rules 12 and 19,cryptography and other forms of encryption or codes are not allowed.*^ Breadcrumbing is exempt from this rule.
21. Do not impersonate the mod.*^In the game thread, my color is orange both bolded and unbolded. All edits by me will br signed using a tilde and my username.I use yellow instead for private threads.
22. Do not directly lie to the moderator at anytime; this includes lying about activity.*^ You may lie to the players, but not the moderator.
23. Play to win condition.^
24. Provable randomness is prohibited.*
Miscellaneous:
25. The game will begin with a48 hour pre-game phase.This will be refered to as "Dawn".
26. Days lastmax(16 - 2d, 5) days.Nights will last48 hours.
27. I may update the rules as neccessary.New portions are underlined.No longer binding portions are strike through.
28. * = Can be Force-Replaced; ^ = Can be Modkilled
Setup-Specific Rules:
1. This game uses regular lynching mechanics unless changed by one of the roles. No lynch is allowed, lynches occur at a simple majorityof votes, and deadline ends in no lynch. Abbreviations and unvotes are allowed. Votes should be cast likeVote: Playeror VOTE: Player. Unvotes should appear asUnvote: Playeror UNVOTE: Player. No Lynch votes look like VOTE: No Lynch orUnvote: No Lynch.
2. This game is a normal game and follows normal guidelines.
3. This game has an open setup.
Other Info:
1. The moderator will be V/LA on all Fridays between August 26 and sometime in November or so.
Sample Role PMs:
1.Town Doctor
Spoiler: Town Doctor
2.Town Even-Night Doctor
Spoiler: Town Doctor
3.Vanilla Townie
Spoiler: Vanilla Townie
4.Mafia Goon
Spoiler: Mafia GoonLinks: User Page | Player Ratings | GTKAS | Test
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The role PMs in "Sample role PMs" need to match the actual role PMs. (The Goon PM is different. In particular, it's important for normality that town know can see that the scum have daytalk, and that's the bit you deleted.)
Once you've fixed that, /approve.scum· scam · seam · team · term · tern · torn ·town- Ircher
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Overview:(Flavorless Mafia)
Name: Flavorless Mafia
Type: Micro Open Normal
# of Players: 9
Description: A flavorless micro normal.
Co/Backup Mod: Pieguyn
Modding Experience: Mini 1782
Current Modding Commitments: MT1810: Light and Darkness Mafia
Role List:
1.Town Doctor
2.Town Even-Night Doctor
3.Vanilla Townie
4.Vanilla Townie
5.Vanilla Townie
6.Vanilla Townie
7.Vanilla Townie
8.Mafia Goon
9.Mafia Goon
Role PMs:
1.Town Doctor
Spoiler: Town Doctor
2.Town Even-Night Doctor
Spoiler: Town Doctor
3.Vanilla Townie
Spoiler: Vanilla Townie
4.Mafia Goon
Spoiler: Mafia Goon
Spoiler: Mafia PT Link
Rules:
Activity:
1. Prods are issued aftera) 48 hours of inactivity Monday-Friday b) 60 hours of inactivity Saturday-Sunday or c) Within 12-24 hours after an announced V/LA ends.
2. You are given24 hoursto respond to a prod in-thread or by pmif it's night.
3. Prod-dodging will generally reset the prod timer;however, a record of prod-dodges will be maintained in the initial post.3 prod dodges count the same as a prod, and you will be prodded again every third prod dodge.
4. If you are prodded in accordance to rule #3 above, then prod dodging will not be accepted.
5. Players will be replaced based on the length of the thread and how many prods have been issued.Generally, every 25th page grants a player one extra chance, butmoderator discretion is the deciding factor.
6. If you cannot post for more than 48 hours, please announce V/LApublicly. Unless it is a weekend V/LA,please set V/LA status in your control panel in addition to announcing it.
7. Excessively long V/LA will have restrictions applied to them.Any V/LA longer than 4 days should be planned ahead of time, and you should contact me at least 3 days in advanced.
Respect:
8.The number one rule is the golden rule:Do unto others as you want them to do to you.
9. Excessive flaming, excessive trolling, ad hominem, and other forms of personal attacks will not be tolerated.*
10.Any issue not related to votecounts, activity (including V/LA), and deadlines should be sent to the mod privately by pm.*
11. Any issue related to votecounts, activity (including V/LA), and deadlines should bebolded in-thread.
12. The blackout tags are prohibited;use spoiler= instead.
13.Animated GIFs MUST be spoilered. Videos should also be spoilered.
14. Hydras, if allowed,must sign.No exceptions; refusal to sign will result in immediate replacement of the offending head or both heads depending on which is necessary.*
Honour:
15.Do not discuss ongoing games in any shape or form.*^
16.Do not directly quote any form of mod communication (especially role pms) unless allowed by the moderator.*^ Flavor name claiming, role claiming, claiming flavor of abilities, and explaining how your role works are allowed. Paraphrasing of flavor must be very careful as to not cross the line.
17. Do not edit nor delete your own posts.*^
18. Do not post anything inappropriate or illegal.*
19. All textmust be at least this large.
20. Including rules 12 and 19,cryptography and other forms of encryption or codes are not allowed.*^ Breadcrumbing is exempt from this rule.
21. Do not impersonate the mod.*^In the game thread, my color is orange both bolded and unbolded. All edits by me will br signed using a tilde and my username.I use yellow instead for private threads.
22. Do not directly lie to the moderator at anytime; this includes lying about activity.*^ You may lie to the players, but not the moderator.
23. Play to win condition.^
24. Provable randomness is prohibited.*
Miscellaneous:
25. The game will begin with a48 hour pre-game phase.This will be refered to as "Dawn".
26. Days lastmax(16 - 2d, 5) days.Nights will last48 hours.
27. I may update the rules as neccessary.New portions are underlined.No longer binding portions are strike through.
28. * = Can be Force-Replaced; ^ = Can be Modkilled
Setup-Specific Rules:
1. This game uses regular lynching mechanics unless changed by one of the roles. No lynch is allowed, lynches occur at a simple majorityof votes, and deadline ends in no lynch. Abbreviations and unvotes are allowed. Votes should be cast likeVote: Playeror VOTE: Player. Unvotes should appear asUnvote: Playeror UNVOTE: Player. No Lynch votes look like VOTE: No Lynch orUnvote: No Lynch.
2. This game is a normal game and follows normal guidelines.
3. This game has an open setup.
Other Info:
1. The moderator will be V/LA on all Fridays between August 26 and sometime in November or so.
Sample Role PMs:
1.Town Doctor
Spoiler: Town Doctor
2.Town Even-Night Doctor
Spoiler: Town Doctor
3.Vanilla Townie
Spoiler: Vanilla Townie
4.Mafia Goon
Spoiler: Mafia Goon
Opening Post:
Spoiler: Playerlist
Spoiler: Alive Players
Spoiler: Dead Players
Spoiler: VC History
Spoiler: Event HistoryLinks: User Page | Player Ratings | GTKAS | Test
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Game is finished! Not sure who to contact, but this thread should be released now!Links: User Page | Player Ratings | GTKAS | Test
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