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[TwoFace]

If copper actually said that, that's a good point out by mort. I don't remember seeing it though.

[MortFeld]

Very dramatic, Creeps.

Can you answer my question:

Is there any other reason you SR me?

In case you're actually interested in convincing people I'm scum.

If copper actually said that, that's a good point out by mort. I don't remember seeing it though.

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[TwoFace]

Oh yeah that's bad. The over explanation about scum being can be lynch baity makes it bad. Scum can't be lynch bait

This needs a flip. Should I vote?

Heads

VOTE: copper

[ThinkBig]

VOTE: Cooper

[MisaTange]

BTW @TB: I think there's some misunderstanding here -- Obviously I want the most optimal ending of this game by lynching three of the scum in a row and have the game end by Day 3. I also understand that's a very idealistic and ignorant of me if I really want that to happen in this game. If town is scummy, I understand the importance of wagon analysis/reasons for voting someone and therefore leading to an actual proper scum lynch.

Also I really want HS to answer Twoface's 195.

[ThinkBig]

BTW @TB: I think there's some misunderstanding here -- Obviously I want the most optimal ending of this game by lynching three of the scum in a row and have the game end by Day 3. I also understand that's a very idealistic and ignorant of me if I really want that to happen in this game. If town is scummy, I understand the importance of wagon analysis/reasons for voting someone and therefore leading to an actual proper scum lynch.

Also I really want HS to answer Twoface's 195.

Thank you for clarifying. Sorry for misunderstanding.

[MortFeld]

TB can I see a preliminary readslist? I can explain why I want one from you specifically but I'd rather see it first.

[ThinkBig]

TB can I see a preliminary readslist? I can explain why I want one from you specifically but I'd rather see it first.

Sure.

Town Reads

1. MortFeld
2. Lil Uzi Vert
3. Naomi-Tan

Scum Reads

1. Copper223
2. HS (I don't like how he asked Drone a question when he hasn't confirmed/posted yet. If he flips scum, it is possible that Drone is his buddy).

On an unrelated note, ChaosOmega and Toto need to get in the game. Mod, can you please prod them?

[MortFeld]

What changed between when you scumread Creeps and now?

[ThinkBig]

What changed between when you scumread Creeps and now?

I moved creeps from scum read to null/very slight FOS. My reasoning is when he voted for you and said that if he flips green, go after you; if he flips red, ignore this. In the games I've red and been in off site, I've only seen town players do that.

[Creeps20]

Very dramatic, Creeps.

Can you answer my question:

Is there any other reason you SR me?

In case you're actually interested in convincing people I'm scum.

If copper actually said that, that's a good point out by mort. I don't remember seeing it though.

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Simple. You asked a lot of questions to me. And I am pretty sure that is tunneling

[MortFeld]

What changed between when you scumread Creeps and now?

I moved creeps from scum read to null/very slight FOS. My reasoning is when he voted for you and said that if he flips green, go after you; if he flips red, ignore this. In the games I've red and been in off site, I've only seen town players do that.

Ok. I disagree, him looking at what happens if he flips town is NAI, especially when you look at his reasoning. Him looking at what happens if he flips scum might be a scumtell. But your explanation makes sense for why you'd change the read.

Very dramatic, Creeps.

Can you answer my question:

Is there any other reason you SR me?

In case you're actually interested in convincing people I'm scum.

Simple. You asked a lot of questions to me. And I am pretty sure that is tunneling

Asking questions isn't scummy tunneling isn't scummy and I'm not tunneling. You're looking for something to do - what do you think about TB?

[MortFeld]

For that matter, I'm also curious what you think of Copper.

[MortFeld]

In the games I've

red

and been in off site, I've only seen town players do that.

Scumtell?

Joking. Just thought that was funny.

[ThinkBig]

In the games I've

red

and been in off site, I've only seen town players do that.

Scumtell?

Joking. Just thought that was funny.

Lol!!! Nope. On mobile phone. Auto co-WRECK

[copper223]

Sure, I'll explain this. Copper made a statement that essentially said: I am voting someone I think is lynchbait

(therefore town)

and I will unvote them if they get to L-1. So he's not voting a SR and he's not voting for pressure. It's a parked pointless vote - by his own reasoning - and I think that behavior is more likely to come from scum than town.

The highlighted is false, lynchbait is a player that comes off as scum due to play stile

always

regardless of alignment.

I explain that here:

I'm also a bit uncomfortable with having lynchbaity Creeps (

not that lynchbait can't be scum

but it's easy to mistake them for it when they are not and I believe him when he says that's how he comes off as town as well)

That also explains why I am not thrilled with quickly hammering a player like Creeps, the chances of misreading him, due to his lynchbaity playstile, are much higher than usual and scum can safely join these kind of wagons without being much questioned about it.

On the other hand I am also not sure he actually isn't scum (although his latest posting where he said he was afraid to post in fear of getting lynched makes me lean towards town) so what my vote accomplished was keeping the pressure one him.

At least 1 of you that jumped on this is most likely scum.

[TwoFace]

TB can I see a preliminary readslist? I can explain why I want one from you specifically but I'd rather see it first.

Sure.

Town Reads

1. MortFeld
2. Lil Uzi Vert
3. Naomi-Tan

Scum Reads

1. Copper223
2. HS (I don't like how he asked Drone a question when he hasn't confirmed/posted yet. If he flips scum, it is possible that Drone is his buddy).

On an unrelated note, ChaosOmega and Toto need to get in the game. Mod, can you please prod them?

Why uzi?

[TwoFace]

Sorry copper. Scum can't be lynchbait cause the goal is to lynch scum.

[copper223]

Scum can definitely be lynchbait because that's about your playstile and not what alignment you roll in a game, what happens when a player that is lynchbait as town plays another game and rolls scum, he magically becomes not lynchbait?

[TwoFace]

Most people change their play when they are scum though.

[copper223]

That doesn't happen often with lynchbait because they either play like this on purpose to WIFOM or they are new to the game so that's the only way they know how to play (other than lurk out of games I guess), which I think is the case here.

Lynchbait means you bait lynches on yourself (because of the way you play), that says nothing about your alignment (so if you were using it that way you misunderstand the term).

Regardless of what you believe, it's pretty obvious I do not use that term in the way Mort suggested (since I literally specified that lynchbait can be scum in the post he misunderstood or misrepped).

[MortFeld]

I did misunderstand. Working right now so I can't respond in detail but I agree that your post didn't imply that you thought Creeps is town.

[TwoFace]

Right I saw you said it can be scum, but I disagreed with you and felt it was a scummy post. saying you will unvote when he gets to l-1 is bad play imo. It takes pressure off someone people are scum reading and also makes you seem like you weren't really committed to it. If that's the case why are you on it to begin with?

[Naomi-Tan]

What changed between when you scumread Creeps and now?

I moved creeps from scum read to null/very slight FOS. My reasoning is when he voted for you and said that if he flips green, go after you; if he flips red, ignore this. In the games I've red and been in off site, I've only seen town players do that.

It appears that some people in this thread have adopted my red green style... so.. I guess I'll share some useful things here for you to use as sometimes tense is important.

Red - Scum
Redish - Scummy
reded - scumed

Green - Town
Greenish - towny
greened - Towned.

Now the color can be a little less rigid ^^'

[Naomi-Tan]

stile

*Style.