Newbie 1752: Wave - Game Over

[Creature]

Well, I'll wait to see what others say.

[Creature]

Hopefully I won't need to push a flashwagon on any of them.

[Charloux]

If nothing changes, i think Hell should claim around 1day before the end

[ssbm_Kyouko]

The more I read from Blake the less I like what I see. Perhaps it's confirmation bias, but this is the most sure I've felt of anyone being scum since catching up to the full thread when I replaced Desmond. I would rather vote this way than see Hellfire ml'd today. No lynch is not an option today. I think Blake is likely scum, and am going to officially vote him now. If he is lynched and flips scum, I believe it to be highly likely that Tenshii is his partner.

I strongly encourage everyone to reread through approximately post 300 through the lens that Blake and Tenshii are the scum and see if their actions make sense. The typical pattern I noticed was as follows:
1. Town begins arguing with or accusing other Town of being scum. Cloud is always involved. I believe Tenshii was the first to notice Cloud's fire was easy to fan, and Blake caught on by the second wagon.
2. One or the other of Tenshii or Blake posts something that sounds towny but in actuality is designed to lead Cloud into calling for wagon and voting.
3. The scum that leads Cloud on is the first to side with him for a flimsy reason. They vote second or third.
4. The other scum hops onto the wagon as the third or fourth vote. By being in the middle of the wagon they avoid having to hammer or call someone out in the first place, appearing to be sheep or to be placing votes to create "pressure."
5. One of the townies realizes the wagon has formed really quickly and for seemingly no reason and backs out of voting to prevent too early of a lynch. This usually loops into the next wagon in the repeating pattern at step 1.

UNVOTE: Charloux
VOTE: Blake

The reason I'm voting Blake over Tenshii is that I believe he has been the most telling of the two so far, and because I believe he will be easier to lynch than Tenshii. He seems to only follow what Tenshii does, except when he needs to help encourage cloud to create a new wagon so that Tenshii has an excuse to get off the old wagon. In the first wagon, Cloud accused Hellfire and Hell was quickly brought to L-1. Cloud comes back later on and sees what his wagon has created, and unvotes hell because it's too early to lynch him. Drone defends Hell and Cloud starts disagreeing with Drone's ideas. Tenshii pounces on Cloud's ideas, and switches his vote onto drone as the easy wagon on Hell dissolves. Blake comes back from inactivity to remove his vote from the old wagon and put the FoS on drone, but doesn't vote him yet. In the same post he leans town on Cloud, possibly to gain Cloud's trust in Blake's own votes. Soon after, in 293, Blake votes on Drone but at the same time says "I didn't vote before because I didn't have a strong read on anyone but it seems like votes are thrown out a lot more liberally in forum mafia so I'll VOTE: Drone". He claims he didn't vote before but he's already swapped his vote around a couple of times, then he conveniently votes on the same wagon as Tenshii, again. 2 Posts later in 295, Cloud notices the wagon on drone seems really rushed and calls out Blake and Tenshii, asking them why they FoS drone so easily.

Anyways, I'm really tired as I write this and am going off notes I took as I read the thread through the aforementioned lens. When I wake I will probably put this together more coherently with actual quotes, but right now I just can't.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Also Hell claimed VT a long time ago @Charloux

[Charloux]

Oh 204, failed to register it it seems.

[CloudKicker]

JUST FUCKING ROPE THE GUY ALREADY

[CloudKicker]

WHOEVER HAMMER HIM WILL GET IMMINITY FROM MYSELF TOMOROW

[Tenshii]

Perhaps they were swayed by Raskol's post explaining the safety of lynching Hellfire.

Essentially this. I don't like the idea of Hellfire being alive in future days. The best thing to his name is some reactions. I'm not down to commit to a townread when the only information to read him off of will essentially be posts like these. Today is the best day for policy.

Tenshii, why did you drop this question so easily before moving on to Hellfire's wagon? My initial impression of you was that you were trying to milk information out of this D1 as you posted earlier in 392, but this feels contradictory.

It was obvious I wasn't going to get any substantial information from it. Combine it with the fact that I tr the slot, that led me to drop it.

@ssbm: Townread on Drone, slight townread on hell, slight townread on cloud based on his posts after my FOS on him. Town Creature is a very strong asset after some time passes, so i will leave him alone today. Null reads on everybody else-is what i would say, but Blake's naked L-1 vote seems too much for me. VOTE: Blake

See.

I strongly encourage everyone to reread through approximately post 300 through the lens that Blake and Tenshii are the scum and see if their actions make sense. The typical pattern I noticed was as follows:
1. Town begins arguing with or accusing other Town of being scum. Cloud is always involved. I believe Tenshii was the first to notice Cloud's fire was easy to fan, and Blake caught on by the second wagon.
2. One or the other of Tenshii or Blake posts something that sounds towny but in actuality is designed to lead Cloud into calling for wagon and voting.
3. The scum that leads Cloud on is the first to side with him for a flimsy reason. They vote second or third.
4. The other scum hops onto the wagon as the third or fourth vote. By being in the middle of the wagon they avoid having to hammer or call someone out in the first place, appearing to be sheep or to be placing votes to create "pressure."
5. One of the townies realizes the wagon has formed really quickly and for seemingly no reason and backs out of voting to prevent too early of a lynch. This usually loops into the next wagon in the repeating pattern at step 1.

What posts specifically are you referring to when each of these events are occurring? Quote them. Where are you at in regards to Drone/Charloux now? Without regard to any other reads, i.e. because you scumread me and Blake, Drone is town.

[CloudKicker]

And btw kyouko is really right, blake and did scumtell pretty darn hard and he probably will flip mafia eventually, still, we do not have time and i still want hellfire out. Also if theres a doc i suggest you be on kyouko no wifom

[Creature]

Well, it's just a policy then.

[Creature]

Still wanted to work with Hellfire, though he didn't answer me.

[CloudKicker]

Its not a policy, this is an hindrance to my read. He scumtold, maybe he did as town but he stil ldid scumtold and i would say he could flip both alignement at this point. I aint going back on 20 pages reads just to flip to blake who can actually provide content to get read on, hellfire cannot

[CloudKicker]

Still wanted to work with Hellfire, though he didn't answer me.

dude just quick hammer his face i fucking beg you, this day is finished regardless

[Creature]

Okay

VOTE: Hellfire

[CloudKicker]

THANK YOU I LVOE YOU <3333333

[Creature]

Also, ssbm is pretty much town, not sure anymore on Charloux.

[CloudKicker]

Sorry kyouko your play style is right but i was bored and you just came into the game, we will lynch mafia tomorow regardless of this flip

[Creature]

Maybe we should also look at Blake, Rask and Tenshii, they stayed too low.

[CloudKicker]

Blake is who i am going to iso tomorow mornin'

[CloudKicker]

if theres cop, depening of this flip a blake/tenshii check would be optimal

[Creature]

Something that bothers me about Tenshii is that he has an habit of questioning townreads on him, which is lacking here.

[grapes]

FINAL DAY 1 VOTECOUNT

Hellfire Missile (5):

Raskolnikov, Tenshii, Blakebtb23, Cloudkicker, Creature

(LYNCH)

Blakebtb23 (2):

Charloux, ssbm_Kyouko

Not Voting (2):

Drone, Hellfire Missile

With 9 votes in play, 5 were needed to lynch.

[grapes]

Spoiler: Hellfire Missile was lynched Day 1 ...

... he was a

Vanilla Townie

.

[grapes]

It is now Night 1.

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