Open 658 Making Friends and Enemies | Game Over

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: mhsmith0

You know why.

What was up with this?

[Io]

Vote 1.91

This is the point where counting gets inconsistent due to lack of foresight.


Aristophanes (L-4): doomfeathers, BK201, Creature
Gamma Emerald (L-5): sad1492, Burgerking
tojam2 (L-5): oddmusic, Secret Agent Jin
Transcend (L-5): Aubrey, Gamma Emerald
sad1492 (L-6): mhsmith0
BK201 (L-6): Transcend

Not voting: tojam2, and Aristophanes

13 players alive majority is 7.

Day ends in (expired on 2016-11-16 12:00:00)

[Aubrey]

VOTE: mhsmith0

You know why.

What was up with this?

Another joke.

[Aubrey]

So I know a lot of people are liking SAJ (and even I liked his earlier posts) but I feel as if he has pretty much been playing under the radar...

[Gamma Emerald]

A quick skim of his play suggests he's newb!town (even with his experience)

[Aubrey]

A quick skim of his play suggests he's newb!town (even with his experience)

...and?

[Gamma Emerald]

And I don't think he's been flying under the radar, he seems to be trying to be proactive.
He's a decent townread for me.

[Secret Agent Jin]

So I know a lot of people are liking SAJ (and even I liked his earlier posts) but I feel as if he has pretty much been playing under the radar...

Understandable, please take this as your chance to question me. I am an open book. My third grade teacher was Mrs. Kendrick, she talked REALLY fast and i had my share of trouble figuring out what we were doing that year. My favorite food is potato soup, its the Irish in me. My most treasured possession is my grandfather's flag that was on his casket, he served as a medical specialist in the Korean war. Also, i have an eclectic taste in music.

[Aubrey]

And I don't think he's been flying under the radar, he seems to be trying to be proactive.
He's a decent townread for me.

BS

the only posts that COULD seem townie to me are

post 298
post 355

everything else is not helping the town at all, and is frankly pointless gibber gabber. Let me dive deep into the TWO posts that seem okay, but are not great.

298: He is keeping his options open with Ari and Maria, and votes Transcend. All of these places are super easy for scum to throw a vote on, and could very well come from scum. Yes it's nice he isn't voting Ari THE EASIEST SPOT TO VOTE, but notice how he can easily switch the vote over to him instead of leaving him at a null. Maria was also a easy slot to say "

I'm not trusting of this slot and may vote later.

" Maria hadn't done much at all, and was another slot that probably should have remained a null. Whatever. Early Transcend was also another easy slot to vote for to be honest. Most of the people voting him were voting him due to not liking his

jolly good nature

and not really for scum reasons. "

Your pissing people off so I'ma vote for you and also it isn't helping town!

" <--- Cause scum couldn't write that...

335: For whatever reason he has unvoted Transcend. Why? I don't know or remember. hmm. He then votes Tojam, without reason. This is another spot that is kinda easy for scum to vote. Granted ONCE AGAIN this spot hasn't done shit to help itself. Shugs* All that being said, why would Toejam offer his life when Maria is getting shat on for doing it by me, and when he really isn't under fire at that given time? Yes the lil guy has 2 voters on his ass, but is that enough to really attempt the damsel in distress play as scum? Unlikely. Reads more like a lazy townie. Could totally be wrong here, but that is what it reads as to me.

Needless to say, Yea earlier in the game I though SAJ was okay. Now I'm not exactly impressed with the slot and would like more out of him. He said he was lurking because he didnt want to post fluff, but I haven't seen a hell of a lot, and he just posted a really fluffy post. Gimme a break.

[Aubrey]

And I don't think he's been flying under the radar, he seems to be trying to be proactive.
He's a decent townread for me.

Now let me question you good sir. Where exactly are you seeing him as trying to be proactive?

[Gamma Emerald]

And I don't think he's been flying under the radar, he seems to be trying to be proactive.
He's a decent townread for me.

Now let me question you good sir. Where exactly are you seeing him as trying to be proactive?

I think that may have been the wrong word actually, I like the way he is progressing, I tried to sum it up in one word and I think I failed. It's just, his posts seem to have really brought some eyes to him and I don't get how you can say "flying under the radar" with that.

[Aubrey]

And I don't think he's been flying under the radar, he seems to be trying to be proactive.
He's a decent townread for me.

Now let me question you good sir. Where exactly are you seeing him as trying to be proactive?

I think that may have been the wrong word actually, I like the way he is progressing, I tried to sum it up in one word and I think I failed. It's just, his posts seem to have really brought some eyes to him and I don't get how you can say "flying under the radar" with that.

excuse me, I only see two posts with POSSIBLE townie content in them, and not a hell of a lot of content or ideas in those posts either. Everything else is not progressing the town further. Not in my eyes at least. Being able to do that is flying under the radar in my books. Maybe I'm using the wrong phrase, but this is what i mean.

Flying under the radar.

(Aubrey's meaning): player is seen, but not doing much of anything to progress the game further.

[Aubrey]

If I have happened to be miss some grand statement that he has said that earns him undeniable townie credit, enlighten me. So far, I'm not seeing it.

[Gamma Emerald]

The main thing I'm townreading is his awkwardness: it feels unscripted, which is towny.

[Aubrey]

Well Gamma. I don't know how to argue against that one, or how to consider that in my read...

I'm not good with tonal reads.

[Secret Agent Jin]

Let me repeat it again Aubrey, please ask me anything you feel, i am open. As far as the post i tyoed previously, it was a joke and sarcastic. If you looked closer at my 22 or so posts then you would see some are addressing and defending my experience in this type of medium. I admit that some are not game related, like my two or so posts addressing Transcend's soft bullying.

Regarding my listing of supposed scum, they have changed a slight bit. I did suspect Maria but later changed that because i noticed she was stressed and that could have been part of the reason she read like she did to me.
Transcend has since proved that he usually posts like he has been, trolly and agitating, and that is no reason to FOS him.
Tojam has not convinced me that he is a townread as his posts seem to be useless IMO.
Lastly, Ari has been on V/LA and when he has posted it has been barely anything substantial, for that i am not leaning one way or another on him. I will say that he needs to post something soon since it would be easy to just act V/LA and surf easily through the first day. If it continues then he would seem highly suspicious.

I am sorry you feel the way you do about me, if there is anything that would change your view on me, let me know, i would be happy to give you whatever it is.

Afterthought: Its hard to keep finding things to talk about when the day phase is 2 weeks long. After awhile the posts grow stale and boring. My outlook is that if we went through a night phase then we could base things off of what happened during the night. During Day 1 nothing happened so we are literally just pointing fingers for the fun of it, there is no evidence against anyone. Its just all "your post doesnt fit the standard outline, FOS".

[Aubrey]

Let me repeat it again Aubrey, please ask me anything you feel, i am open. As far as the post i tyoed previously, it was a joke and sarcastic. If you looked closer at my 22 or so posts then you would see some are addressing and defending my experience in this type of medium. I admit that some are not game related, like my two or so posts addressing Transcend's soft bullying.

Regarding my listing of supposed scum, they have changed a slight bit. I did suspect Maria but later changed that because i noticed she was stressed and that could have been part of the reason she read like she did to me.
Transcend has since proved that he usually posts like he has been, trolly and agitating, and that is no reason to FOS him.
Tojam has not convinced me that he is a townread as his posts seem to be useless IMO.
Lastly, Ari has been on V/LA and when he has posted it has been barely anything substantial, for that i am not leaning one way or another on him. I will say that he needs to post something soon since it would be easy to just act V/LA and surf easily through the first day. If it continues then he would seem highly suspicious.

I am sorry you feel the way you do about me, if there is anything that would change your view on me, let me know, i would be happy to give you whatever it is.

Afterthought: Its hard to keep finding things to talk about when the day phase is 2 weeks long. After awhile the posts grow stale and boring. My outlook is that if we went through a night phase then we could base things off of what happened during the night. During Day 1 nothing happened so we are literally just pointing fingers for the fun of it, there is no evidence against anyone. Its just all "your post doesnt fit the standard outline, FOS".

I mean, you have done so much that has left me with so many questions to ask you.

Like seriously, I want action out of you. Most, not some, of your posts have been blah. I shouldn't only have 2 posts to really judge you on. You don't read proactive, you read stale. I shouldn't have to call you out in order to understand your reads a bit further. This idea of "

well there is nothing to do on day one without a kill

" is crap. If town doesn't do much at all, scum will likely make a kill that doesn't give the town really anything to work off of. Furthermore, the more active a town is, it makes it harder for scum to lurk in general. One of the worse things right now is how unactive so many of our slots are.

[Aubrey]

Wait a damn minute!!!!!

I do have a question. I just brought forward thoughts that supported Toejam maybe being a possible townie. You never commented on that. Thoughts?

[oddmusic]

Alright, maybe if I bold people's names they'll answer my questions. I used to do stuff like that. Why did I stop?

@SAJ

: What are your thoughts about Burger King? Also, since he's been grilling you what's your read on Aubrey right now.

@Aubrey

: What makes SAJ's empty activity different from tojam's?

@mhsmith

: Why haven't you voted anybody yet? Why have you retained Deathstar's vote on sad1492 when you said you think sad is ok?

To answer the question I directed at Aubrey for myself, I can still read SAJ's activity as newbtown, whereas tojam's seems more like what's called "active lurking". That's just how I see it, and every time SAJ says something like "I'm here, I just don't have anything to say" it gets harder to credit.

[Aubrey]

Because I have a reason to believe Toejam maybe town?

[Aubrey]

shit, I missed the last two sentences to your response Odd. Sorry. That still doesn't address what I brought forward for Toejam.

[oddmusic]

Okay, tracked down your quote on tojam:

All that being said, why would Toejam offer his life when Maria is getting shat on for doing it by me, and when he really isn't under fire at that given time? Yes the lil guy has 2 voters on his ass, but is that enough to really attempt the damsel in distress play as scum? Unlikely. Reads more like a lazy townie. Could totally be wrong here, but that is what it reads as to me.

Problem is, I can't tell what you're referring to exactly. When did tojam "offer his life"? I just don't get what you're talking about here honestly.

[Aubrey]

plz read his ISO. It isn't long.

[Aubrey]

Looking at p.15, I'm the most unreadable player right now, either conftown or lynchee. That probably puts own in a better place to lynch me day 1, so stuff starts clearing up, if we get to the last day I will self-vote, even if it's hammer.

^^^^

[Gamma Emerald]

I think tojam takes too much upon himself