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[Human Sequencer]

If you're not willing to put that time and effort in, perhaps Mafia isn't the game for you.

I didn't complain to the mod, and I was against a policy lynch until I felt it was inevitable.

[TwoFace]

Funny, I'd say the peopl who can't read the thread and find the reasons themselves shouldn't play the game. Guess we have differences of opinions. I'm not the only person on this site who thinks cases are pointless. Some even say they are antitown. Since that's a theory discussion I'll drop it and move on.

I'll also stop responding to you for now because I felt like that entire post was an unnecessary cheap shot.

[Creeps20]

VOTE: UNVOTE MISA

I am willing to wait.
Oh and I am mildly suspicious of HS due to the policy lynch on me. I have indeed soft-claimed a PR and a policy lynch could possibly allow them to sneakily wipe out a PR in the day. And it is well hidden and easy to not get picked up on.

Yes I know I am useless but I know a few things. Wait til day 2

Oh and I think TF should be ignored for now

[Human Sequencer]

@TwoFace
I didn't mean it that way.

@Creeps
Lol what
Creeps soft-claimed?
This is news to me.
Are you talking about post 199?

[Human Sequencer]

Oh post 306 nvm
Well considering that literally nobody else picked up on it either I'm not so sure if I can be blamed for missing that, and if you bought that up I would have rescinded that statement as well.

[Creeps20]

Oh post 306 nvm
Well considering that literally nobody else picked up on it either I'm not so sure if I can be blamed for missing that, and if you bought that up I would have rescinded that statement as well.

Yeah but I know for a fact that drone did mention it.

[Human Sequencer]

No he didn't...?

I can't find it, where was it?

[Toto]

Im surprised you missed that when copper brought it to our attention.

[Creeps20]

No he didn't...?

I can't find it, where was it?

Well that means one of two things

1. You aren't reading through properly
2. You faked it. You knew but thought no one remembered.

Either way take HS words with a bit of salt

[Human Sequencer]

Toto and Creeps are either masons or are so in synchronization with each other that they know precisely how to fuck with me.

There's no way I missed both Drone and Copper saying it after going through both of their ISOs twice.

Would one of you link it, please?

[MortFeld]

I picked up on the soft claim, didn't think it was important/a good idea to mention it. Like, if scum miss it then why tell them?

[MortFeld]

I get being against cases, I think the idea is that if someone reads and doesn't understand an argument they can just ask? Which I'm fine with and I don't think the lack of concerted effort to convince is anti-town.

[Toto]

Toto and Creeps are either masons or are so in synchronization with each other that they know precisely how to fuck with me.

Huh? you seem to be role fishing again here.

VOTE: HS

[Toto]

I would Claim but that is useless for me as my role really dosen't really scream 'town'

... yeah that was my other reason, when he said he was so nervous he did not want to post he reminded me of Gideon (for

HS

, Toto and Chaos).

Yeah, you missed that after going 2x through Copper's ISO.

[MortFeld]

I didn't want to policy lynch TwoFace because I read him as very town, but I did want to policy lynch Creeps because I have no idea what his alignment is. Therefore, we have a higher chance of flipping scum in my eyes.

Thankfully, we're out of policy lynch territory and I'm 100% willing to give TwoFace another chance. Especially if he posts more like he has been recently.

Explain something for me. Is there some magical Policy Lynch Land where

any

policy lynch is inevitable? Now I wasn't there for the flow of conversation, but it seems to me that what happened was this:

Drone makes 613. Weird post, what's the policy lynch based on? Toxicity?
HS says in 614, yo I ain't down for this, TF is town.
Chaos says in 616 policy lynch! Wooo!
Wobbu policy lynch votes? In 621 except it's not a policy lynch, he seems to be making an argument that TF is scum except says he might be town, also weird
Naomi votes for policy lynch, distraction I guess.
Then HS makes 631. I already said why I thought 631 is weird.

Look guys, if we're delving into policy lynch territory, I think Creeps would be a far better alternative to TwoFace.

What is policy lynch territory? What had happened so far is that TwoFace had been run up to L-3 by people claiming to want a policy lynch. The alternative from a town perspective should be to not policy lynch TwoFace, and to carry on with the day. How on earth does it make sense to say "well, if we have to policy lynch someone, let's do Creeps"? You didn't have to policy lynch anyone! Your response to my 719 was not convincing, since you basically said the same thing as you did in 631.

There are no town motivations here. There are few scum motivations either, but there are some. I think you might have given yourself away with

I understand this can be flipped into red trying to protect a fellow red, but that isn't the case. I just really want to avoid lynching pretty obvious town at all costs.

though it would be dumb for TF's scum buddy to say anything like that.

VOTE: HS

I don't think Naomi is scum, I believe that she really is affected by TwoFace's toxicity and that a policy lynch could be !green motivated. Drone started the policy lynch, which could be scum motivated but I think scum would be more likely to jump on the wagon rather than to start it. So if TF is town, that leaves Chaos and Wobbu as possible->likely scum. But I think HS is more likely, that whole Creeps thing is so weird.

[Toto]

There are no town motivations here. There are few scum motivations either, but there are some. I think you might have given yourself away with

I understand this can be flipped into red trying to protect a fellow red, but that isn't the case. I just really want to avoid lynching pretty obvious town at all costs.

though it would be dumb for TF's scum buddy to say anything like that.

I don't think HS + TF can be scum partners at this point given how badly HS wanted to kick TwoFace out of the game. If that was acting then I would be very impressed. I think this was more of an excuse to jump on the lynch of a townie later and avoid consequences.

I don't think Naomi is scum, I believe that she really is affected by TwoFace's toxicity and that a policy lynch could be !green motivated. Drone started the policy lynch, which could be scum motivated but I think scum would be more likely to jump on the wagon rather than to start it. So if TF is town, that leaves Chaos and Wobbu as possible->likely scum. But I think HS is more likely, that whole Creeps thing is so weird.

I actually agree with this analysis.

[MortFeld]

On mobile, leaving this here to explain later but I don't think that acting would be particularly impressive.

[MortFeld]

Toto why did you vote HS? Just bc of what you perceived as role fishing?

[Toto]

Toto why did you vote HS? Just bc of what you perceived as role fishing?

That and also the fact that they were reading 2face as town but still decided to vote them.

[Toto]

Toto why did you vote HS? Just bc of what you perceived as role fishing?

That and also the fact that they were reading 2face as town but still decided to vote them.

and also the fact they may have lied about not knowing about the soft claim. I just don't see how they missed that post (Gideon was an important player in our previous game).

[MortFeld]

Oh I hadn't noticed that vote. Was TF at L-2 after?

[DeathByWobbuffet]

I voted TF because even though I believe they're probably town, I think lynching them is worth it just because even if they do end up flipping town, we don't lose much because they're not contributing to town by giving actual reasoning anyway.

[MortFeld]

I don't believe a townie would say what you're saying. That's not what the others on the wagon were saying either

[MortFeld]

FoS on wobbu

[ThinkBig]

I am back from V/LA. I am catching up now.