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[DeathByWobbuffet]

I don't believe a townie would say what you're saying. That's not what the others on the wagon were saying either

Right... so you scumread me because I lynched someone with different reasons than others have? I'd like to point out that everyone else just said "policy lynch". At least I justified my vote.

[Toto]

I voted TF because even though I believe they're probably town, I think lynching them is worth it just because even if they do end up flipping town, we don't lose much because they're not contributing to town by giving actual reasoning anyway.

As town you don't lynch other people you think are townies. That's just stupid and gives scum all kind of excuses to get away with.

In fact, I would be fine policy lynching anyone that wants to lynch people they are reading as town. That's scum motivated and if town is a really bad play. That's what a real good policy lynch is about.

[DeathByWobbuffet]

I don't believe a townie would say what you're saying. That's not what the others on the wagon were saying either

Fine.

UNVOTE: TwoFace

[DeathByWobbuffet]

I don't believe a townie would say what you're saying. That's not what the others on the wagon were saying either

didn't mean to quote that whoops

[ThinkBig]

TB in my experience has ALWAYS given game avoiding vibes. That's why I'm not too excited about TB, he'll give us answers at some point.

You have only played with me in one game, in which I was replaced due to sickness.

As another player noted, most of my inactivity came after I declared v/la.

I am back and hope to catch up.

[TwoFace]

we don't lose much because they're not contributing to town by giving actual reasoning anyway.

Sorry guys, I know I said I would bite my tongue, and I will but I just want to point out that this statement has been proven false here - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p8489932

There is no way he can see that post and still claim I am refusing to give actual reasons for my votes. In fact it shows I have given reasons for my vote multiple times.


I like the posts being made about HS as well. It's such a shame that the threat of a policy lynch was what was needed for people to see I was probably right the entire time.

Good night. RIP America

[DeathByWobbuffet]

I don't believe a townie would say what you're saying. That's not what the others on the wagon were saying either

Also, I find it interesting how you're specifically targeting me when HS did the exact same thing.

[DeathByWobbuffet]

we don't lose much because they're not contributing to town by giving actual reasoning anyway.

Sorry guys, I know I said I would bite my tongue, and I will but I just want to point out that this statement has been proven false here - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p8489932

There is no way he can see that post and still claim I am refusing to give actual reasons for my votes. In fact it shows I have given reasons for my vote multiple times.


I like the posts being made about HS as well. It's such a shame that the threat of a policy lynch was what was needed for people to see I was probably right the entire time.

Good night. RIP America

I didn't see that post. Thanks for actually explaining your lynch.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I didn't want to policy lynch TwoFace because I read him as very town,

but I did want to policy lynch Creeps because I have no idea what his alignment is.

Therefore, we have a higher chance of flipping scum in my eyes.

Thankfully, we're out of policy lynch territory and I'm 100% willing to give TwoFace another chance. Especially if he posts more like he has been recently.

I don't want to really advance the game any more with so many people absent or getting replaced.

That is never a good reason to policy lynch someone. The only time I think it's even remotely acceptable is when a player is playing extremely anti-town and even then, getting the mod to handle the situation is a million times better.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

With that being said, I don't think scum would blatantly claimfish and/or rolefish like HS has been doing but his forgetfulness worries me.

Also just realized I've been calling HS, HC. My apologies.

[DeathByWobbuffet]

HS, please explain how a Creeps lynch could actually be classified as a policy lynch. You make it sound like you want them gone because you're not sure that they're town.

[MortFeld]

Back home and on my computer. Sorry for wallpost. I guess I can spoiler each section.

Spoiler: TF and HS scum buddies

I don't think HS + TF can be scum partners at this point given how badly HS wanted to kick TwoFace out of the game. If that was acting then I would be very impressed. I think this was more of an excuse to jump on the lynch of a townie later and avoid consequences.

If HS and TF are scum buddies, HS's willingness to bus TF is very reasonable. As a townie, I will be frustrated if TF is town, so I can imagine how scum!HS would want to distance themselves and maybe even bus scum!TF. I don't even think HS wanted to lynch TF.
649 is TF claiming vig!?!? says potentially scum!HS. scum!TF if you're claiming vig you won't die!
705 (after Key says TF is being forced replaced) we're not lynching anyone until we have 13 players
614 against policy lynch because TRs TF
All of the other posts where HS expresses disdain for TF's play are NAI, since they could come from scum angry at a bad scum buddy or from town angry at TF in general. The vote to L-2 (correct me if this is wrong) was followed swiftly by an unvote.
So I'm not seeing how HS and TF can't both be scum. I don't see any motivation for the half push onto Creeps other than HS and TF both being scum - do you?

Spoiler: FoS on Wobbu

I don't believe a townie would say what you're saying. That's not what the others on the wagon were saying either

Also, I find it interesting how you're specifically targeting me when HS did the exact same thing.

I find your response interesting, since I'm voting HS.

I don't believe a townie would say what you're saying. That's not what the others on the wagon were saying either

Right... so you scumread me because I lynched someone with different reasons than others have? I'd like to point out that everyone else just said "policy lynch". At least I justified my vote.

Like Toto said, your reason itself is scummy. We don't lynch slots just to see how they flip, especially since you literally said you think TF is probably town.

Spoiler: LUV

I didn't want to policy lynch TwoFace because I read him as very town,

but I did want to policy lynch Creeps because I have no idea what his alignment is.

Therefore, we have a higher chance of flipping scum in my eyes.

Thankfully, we're out of policy lynch territory and I'm 100% willing to give TwoFace another chance. Especially if he posts more like he has been recently.

I don't want to really advance the game any more with so many people absent or getting replaced.

That is never a good reason to policy lynch someone. The only time I think it's even remotely acceptable is when a player is playing extremely anti-town and even then, getting the mod to handle the situation is a million times better.

What do you think about my analysis of this in 719 and 739 including HS's response to 719 in 720?

With that being said, I don't think scum would blatantly claimfish and/or rolefish like HS has been doing but his forgetfulness worries me.

Why would town do this?

[MortFeld]

HS, please explain how a Creeps lynch could actually be classified as a policy lynch. You make it sound like you want them gone because you're not sure that they're town.

You're not allowed to ask this until you explain your vote on TF with reasoning that isn't "I want them gone because I'm not sure that they're town, and they're also not contributing"

[MortFeld]

Btw Wobbu you seem to be conflating voting and lynching, a lynch is what happens when we reach majority and someone dies, what people have been doing today is voting.

[DeathByWobbuffet]

That was my reason. Make of it what you will. I'm not going to go and make up another reason just to make myself look less scummy. I've already unlynched them after being told that my reasoning was bad (I agree that it wasn't all that solid).

[DeathByWobbuffet]

Btw Wobbu you seem to be conflating voting and lynching, a lynch is what happens when we reach majority and someone dies, what people have been doing today is voting.

Huh, okay. When I've played mafia in the past I've used the two terms interchangeably, and used hammer as the term for when someone has the majority of votes on them.

[Toto]

Wobbuffet what previous experience you have playing mafia?

[DeathByWobbuffet]

Wobbuffet what previous experience you have playing mafia?

I've played a lot of chat mafia on a different site.

[Toto]

I don't see any motivation for the half push onto Creeps other than HS and TF both being scum - do you?

Creeps soft claimed.

[MortFeld]

I don't see any motivation for the half push onto Creeps other than HS and TF both being scum - do you?

Creeps soft claimed.

Is this really enough for scum!HS to move off TF and onto Creeps if both TF and Creeps are town? I mean HS is getting flak for it from me and Creeps, hard to imagine scum!HS wouldn't anticipate that.

Even if it is, it is still very possible that TF and HS are both scum, but I'll accept that TF could be town.

[keyenpeydee]

Vote Count

VOTE COUNT 1.18

[1] MisaTange - ChaosOmega,
[0] ThinkBig -
[0] Toto -
[0] Nero Cain -
[0] Drone -
[1] DeathByWobbuffet - TwoFace,
[2] Human Sequencer - Toto, Mortfeld,
[0] MortFeld -
[0] Lil Uzi Vert -
[1] TwoFace -
[0] Naomi-Tan -
[0] ChaosOmega -
[1] Creeps20 - MisaTange,

Not Voting

- Nero Cain, ThinkBig, Lil Uzi Vert, Human Sequencer, Naomi-Tan, Drone, Creeps20, DeathByWobbuffet,

MOD NOTES:

Still searching for a MisaTange replacement.

With

13

Alive, it takes

7

to lynch. Day One will end in

(expired on 2016-11-18 10:00:00)

[Toto]

That was my reason. Make of it what you will. I'm not going to go and make up another reason just to make myself look less scummy. I've already unlynched them after being told that my reasoning was bad (I agree that it wasn't all that solid).

Wobbuffet what previous experience you have playing mafia?

I've played a lot of chat mafia on a different site.

This reads very honest to me by the way.

[MortFeld]

That was my reason. Make of it what you will. I'm not going to go and make up another reason just to make myself look less scummy. I've already unlynched them after being told that my reasoning was bad (I agree that it wasn't all that solid).

Wobbuffet what previous experience you have playing mafia?

I've played a lot of chat mafia on a different site.

This reads very honest to me by the way.

Waiting for the slot to do something pro-town for me to judge.

[keyenpeydee]

Road Kamelot replaces MisaTange!

[Road Kamelot]

Kay im gonna read tomorrow so this is your only chance to influence my vote
Scum-cases GO